AI in cars

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AI in cars
« on: April 15, 2017, 10:38:55 am »
I've been following the progress of electric cars for a while now, the technology has moved forward at quite an impressive rate and my next car will be an EV. However that's for another topic.

The next gen of EV's look to be using some pretty advanced AI, I believe this is really going to happen, probably around the year 2020 we will start to see autonomous self driving cars on the road. Not to be confused with cruise control which is available now, this new autonomous technology can drive you from A to B, through towns and cities.

Check-out the latest working prototype. 




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Re: AI in cars
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2017, 03:43:52 pm »
Really impressive use of technology  8)

I wonder how it does on the poor back roads in the country side in my neck of the woods.

I'm split though, for me I enjoy driving, I don't think I would make a good passenger.

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Re: AI in cars
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2017, 04:54:27 pm »
I can see this technology being used by the older generation that don't feel safe driving anymore.

They will have to learn how to use a satnav though, which could be a challenge for them.

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Re: AI in cars
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2017, 10:08:56 pm »
Tesla's Autopilot Predicts Crashes Freakishly Early:


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Re: AI in cars
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2017, 04:42:24 am »
People are not even bothering to look out the back window anymore, when backing up their vehicle.  Instead, they rely solely on a small video screen beeping in the dash board.

In a polite manner to this discussion thread, I wonder in the long run if autonomous cars are going weaken the ability of humans to drive a car?
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Re: AI in cars
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2017, 10:33:45 am »
In a polite manner to this discussion thread, I wonder in the long run if autonomous cars are going weaken the ability of humans to drive a car?

I think it's a valid point and time will tell.

On the other side of the coin maybe this will improve some peoples driving, there are plenty of bad drivers out there already.

Also humans need to keep full concentration when driving, it only takes a few seconds to look away and cause an accident, computers don't have that problem.

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Re: AI in cars
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2017, 05:47:29 pm »
Better still, I submit the fact that we know autonomous vehicles are definitely coming, if not this year, then within five - ten years they will pretty much become commonplace.

Therefore, why worry about that "ability" if it is going to be replaced? We don't have to crank our phones or our cars in order to operate them now do we? Yet we still know how to use them.

When I was a small kid, I got a bike for Christmas. My Great-grandfather who was 74 years old, asked to see it, straddled it and took off riding it around the yard! Everyone was in shocked at him! (this was many years back). He laughed and said, "Some things you just never forget how to do."

So while at some point in the future, those of us who know and remember how to drive a car will still know. The next generations who grow up with humanoids, self-driving vehicles and "smart homes" will have neither the need nor the inclination to drive or operate such vehicle. By then, most of those vehicles will likely not be operable by humans.

Time will tell.
« Last Edit: April 20, 2017, 01:45:36 pm by Art »
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Re: AI in cars
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2017, 10:48:53 am »
Art, after reading through your post and agreeing with it, it makes me think that the people alive today "might" be the last to actually drive their own cars on the road.

Lets make the most of it chaps, while we can :)

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Re: AI in cars
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2017, 04:52:16 pm »
"Therefore, why worry about that 'ability' if it is going to be replaced?", Art asked for the sake of conversation.

Human ability such as that, may not just be replaced, it may be lost completely.   
Compared to old cars. I think already, back windshields on new cars are smaller.   
In theory, there may be no need for car windows at all.

Data pointed out, "On the other side of the coin maybe this will improve some peoples driving, there are plenty of bad drivers out there already."

As car accidents are eliminated, what new problems, and what new business models, will there be?  The point proffered is that autonomous cars are disruptive.
« Last Edit: April 20, 2017, 05:32:44 pm by 8pla.net »
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Re: AI in cars
« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2017, 02:08:40 am »
@ 8pla.net - My comment was not for the sake of conversation, as you mistakenly inferred but rather to make a counter-point which is almost a debate type of discussion. Consider it an opposing view point.

I disagree with your suggestion that autonomous vehicles will be disruptive in the future. They will predominantly be disruptive to those auto manufacturers thinking it might be a fad or who have their heads in the sand or refuse to believe they will catch on. Of course, many years ago, people also said the same thing about those 'horseless carriages' of the day. A similar statement was said about computer memory by a rather prominent person named Gates. (640k).

Some that Will be disrupted will be Big Oil / Gasoline producers & distributors! Electric cars and even hybrid cars will only use a miniscule amount by comparison to what's being consumed today. The cars will still need servicing for tires, oil changes and perhaps a battery pack every 8-12 years or so (which will still be much, much cheaper than the cost of a new car).

We still have horses but hardly used primarily for transportation except for those in the Amish and similar communities.

Line-connected house phones are slowly becoming obsolete, replaced by better, dependable, cheaper technology.

Disruptive, is a behavior, feeling or condition that often indicates change. Change, that is present or change, that is coming...but coming it is. Lamenting its arrival is certainly not becoming as a person nor keeping in step with progress.
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« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2017, 05:56:43 am »
@Art:  OK, for the purpose of friendly debate, then, why do you feel it will not be disruptive?  What about the car insurance industry?   If autonomous vehicles eliminate accidents, then buying car insurance becomes unnecessary.  No parking tickets, no traffic tickets, no speeding tickets... Police, lawyers, judges may become obsolete when autonomous vehicles are programmed to obey traffic laws automatically.   And, there is so much more to debate beyond this, like no need for traffic lights, stop signs, etc.

@Data:   This is your thread.  Please know that all debate posted here is reasonable and completely in control,.


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Re: AI in cars
« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2017, 10:44:05 am »
@8pla.net I'm happy how this thread is going, yes let's have some friendly debate, it should help us all learn and understand another point of view. 

I actually think you made some really good points about car insurance, parking tickets, speeding tickets, Police, lawyers, judges etc.

There will have to be some rebalancing of these services as autonomous vehicles start to trickle through. That's the point I think, this isn't going to happen over night, it's going to be a slow process and the humans will adapt and evolve to embrace the technology or be left behind.


@everyone, It is going to be interesting to see how these autonomous vehicles pan-out. In the original video I posted the driver could at any time takeover from the A.I and drive themselves, maybe that will be its selling point, more of a driver aid and accident avoidance system. It could completely eliminate the problem of drivers falling asleep at the wheel.  Imagine waking up only to find you have safely reached your destination.

Us humans are flawed and make mistakes I can't personally see a problem with a little friendly nudge/help from a good A.I but I am open to debate :) 

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Re: AI in cars
« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2017, 03:33:47 pm »
@Data:

There is more profit in failure.   As autonomous cars eliminate the failure of car accidents and the business models that make a profit from them...   In the future, what new business models will emerge to profit from what new failures?

@Everyone: 

Any opposing view point given to the debate here is done with a...  :)

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Re: AI in cars
« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2017, 02:36:18 am »
There is more profit in failure.

That sounds like a Ferengi Rule of Acquisition to me.

Sorry 8pla.net, best I can come up with, keeping it lite ;)


 


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