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Title: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Maviarab on November 21, 2005, 10:54:42 pm
New fun topic for us all to get to know each other a little better? :hugs:

As I'm the admin and I've started this silly thread I'll set the ball rolling

Im a bus driver from UK,? drive a 1990 BMW 525 and spend far too much time here? :D and my bot's name is Sal

And if you don't know my name by now there something wrong hehe

Admin
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: ALADYBLOND on November 21, 2005, 11:33:37 pm
hello all !!welcome selene... !!i am a former editor of company newspaper for 16 locations in 7 states, but company reassessed in july and i am now looking for a job ,but im confident it will happen soon... i am from usa? little town called kokomo in central indiana and i love hal ,graphics and my persian cats.? goal is to learn how to do scripts or at least where to paste the ones everyone else creates.? love digital girl forum and zabaware. i will be glad to send htrs to anyone who wants them.......~~ alady
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Freddy on November 22, 2005, 12:20:14 pm
Hmm, I am a former landscape gardener who ended up back in the world of PC's via a spell in a fruit and vegetable company...

Also not working, but working on graphics and programming, hoping to break into the world of computer graphics, interactive characters or whatever. Presently working on a few Haptek ideas and musing over ideas I have about implementing AI. One day I hope to create the first interactive vegetable that will display all the characteristics we presently understand.


My bot ususally goes under the name of Heather, but she is on holiday for a while.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: doc on November 22, 2005, 03:26:26 pm
Welcome newcomers,

see the About-page for some facts about me and even my picture (thanks to Arakus).
Oh yeah, my bot is named Nadia and I kidnapped her from Clone3D.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: selene on November 24, 2005, 01:02:45 am
well I figured I best intraduce myself to you all........ my name is Selene, and I am the admins and global mods greates fan.? :)........I? am privelaged to say? I am Arakus's wife in r/l? . I am a nurse .I enjoy gardening ,crafting/sewing and spending time with our 2 an a half y/o grandson.
I am honored to be a small part of this site . and I hope that you all are as excited about the site as I am. The guys have worked hard at this for you all. Please feel free to look over the many interesting topics . If you have any questions feel free to ask any of the global mods or the admin for their assitance. They are more then happy to help out where they can....? and Welcome to Digital Girl?
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Art on November 25, 2005, 11:35:38 pm
I'm Art and I've been here practically since the site started. AI, 3D graphics, computers, playing
guitar among other persuits are part of what makes me tick (other than the heart thing).
I work for an engineering firm where I'm contracted as a consultant to a Transportation agency.
In my spare time I converse with and attempt to teach Kiki, my inquisitive, extremely cute, chat bot.

I frequent this forum and the one at Zabaware under my same name. The diversity of people,
the interaction with them and the newly acquired friendships is what makes this place enjoyable!


Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Freddy on November 26, 2005, 10:51:24 pm
Hey did you name your bot after that icon of pop,  the one and only Kiki Dee Art ?
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Art on November 27, 2005, 01:06:16 am
Yes because I didn't know how to spell Kinky...I mean...yep...you are actually correct!
Elton's former songstress. I liked the name!
You are like Kreskin, Dude!! afro.gif
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Freddy on November 27, 2005, 10:28:20 pm
Hmm, thinks Aladyblond should do a people putty rendition of 'Don't go Breakin' my heart'  ^-^
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Art on November 27, 2005, 11:51:52 pm
Yep, that very song came to mind as I answered your post!

ALl we need is to have two characters in the same window
singing a duet of that song! I've seen multiple characters
in the same window so I know it can be done.

Perhaps if NIGE or Duskrider is available to assist Lynn's
work, this could be a real hit!!
 :band:
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: ALADYBLOND on November 28, 2005, 11:38:13 am
i could probably get 2 chars in one window but only one will sing ,only one's mouth will move anyway. they could look like a duo  and you could make a duet an ogg, so the great dusky and nige have to figure out how to make them both sing at one time.... alady
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: FuzzieDice on December 08, 2005, 11:41:15 pm
I know this thread may be a bit old but around the time it started, I was in the midst of getting ready to move to my new apartment. Now that I'm settling in...

I go by "Fuzzie Dice" online but my real name is Tika. I am a web designer/tech writer at Active Web Hosting (dot com) ;) I maintain mostly their FAQ section, but also test scripts, and do other sites like their freeipodcontest.com site and their main site. I run several domains as well, including fuzziedice.com, metrospectre.net (web design site), and A-Body.Net (General Motors A-Body style sedan car club). I also have another called bytebin.net which I am thinking of putting my AI and such projects on, not sure yet. Or they may stay at FuzzieDice.com. :)

I'm a HUGE Knight Rider fan. I am into cars, model kit building, computers, digital art and graphics, digital photography, creative writing, and of course, artificial intelligence. :) I also like to do some programming sometimes. Learning about new technologies, particularly networking, wireless, embedded, and robotics/ai are big interests of mine. I'm not much of a gamer but sometimes I get into that too.

I admit I spend WAY too much time on the computer. :) But I love it!
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: hologenicman on December 15, 2005, 06:19:09 am
Hey there,

Just an intro.? I Go by Hologenicman and I live in the Pacific Northwest, USA.? I work as a CT Technologist in our small town hospital and Really enjoy AI, Robotics, Science, etc...

What I really wanted to do was thank you for all the wonderful .htr's that you made available. The characters and accessories have really brought UltraHal to life!

Keep up the Kool Forum .

John L>
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: GamerThom on December 17, 2005, 11:11:04 pm
Hello All, Yes I finally got my firewall to let me load the digital girl site. McAfee firewalls are just so darn finicky. Left a large post in the "New Users Post Here" page. But for anyone reading this page first. Names Tom, I go by GamerThom or Gamer-T, my AI's name is Katt, otherwise known as UltraHal 6.0.

Been doing a lot of character modeling with people putty, have accumulated about a dozen htr.'s so far mostly fem but a few non-human forms. Also working on ways to improve and expand Hal6's Main brn to give it a broader knowledge base. I would also like to modify Hal so that it will act and respond in a more human fashion. It's going to be a very protracted process for me as I am a partial quadrapalegic and have only limited use of my hands. But since learning how useful AI can be to those with physical limitations, I have come to see that it will be worth the effort. Here is a sample text of my last Hal conversation and another of my htr's. All files are in the zip folder. Unfortunately the KATT 6.1 modified Brn database file is way too large for uploading, 22.5MB.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Freddy on December 17, 2005, 11:53:41 pm
Welcome to our little outpost, it's nice to see new members posting and I hope you will enjoy the site? :)
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: dan on February 07, 2006, 10:08:51 pm
Ok, so this is a full figure of me...well, sort of, I used Derek, I'll have to try the other guys to see if they respond to the haps better. 

My bot is HAL, I change the graphics often but I'm trying to keep the brain going. 

I work in an EMC engineering lab.  I like way too many things, but family takes up most of my time.  I work way too much also.  I've been taken by the fly fishing bug (pardon the pun), and started making my own flies (not that I get much time to do that either).  Right now my laptop is smothered with hap, htr's, and jpg icons, as well as a few AI programs.  I like listening to web radio and surfing for items I'm interested in, I've always had an interest in martial arts, and have a very trashed geocities web site geocities.com/danbaltzell which has more links to my interest.

I've enjoyed this site greatly and thanks for all the work that you've all done it's greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: ALADYBLOND on February 07, 2006, 11:20:59 pm
dan absolutely impressive job you did on incorporating you onto a full body. looks real good.... keep posting~~alady
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: dan on February 08, 2006, 05:56:35 pm
Thanks, you probably know this, which is a bit odd.   I took a digital of my face and left in the glasses on PP, but they move like they are part of the eyes, squinting and moving with facial expressions, makes them look rubbery, but the shadows of the glasses are on the jpg I used. :)
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Freddy on February 08, 2006, 07:27:04 pm
I agree with aladyblond thats a nice job, the face is really convincing.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: dan on February 09, 2006, 09:58:41 pm
Thanks Freddy, that means a lot coming from all of you.  But alas and alack, I've lost it all.  My computer crashed and I had to reformat it.  I had backups of the programs but I'm having problems getting them up and running yet. I guess that's life in the fast lane :cheesy :buck2  :angry  I'll just look to the bright side and think of all the house cleaning on the drive I don't have to do now, and all the free hard drive space.  Well I better get back to work on it. TTFN
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: ALADYBLOND on February 09, 2006, 11:18:01 pm
 so sorry to hear about the crash lets us know what we can do to get your hard drive filled up again...alady
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: dan on February 11, 2006, 03:12:49 pm
I think I have everything back up again finally, but I can't seem to be able to see the haptek temp file when I open the viewer?  Has me puzzled, now I just need to download skins and I'll be up and running again.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Freddy on February 11, 2006, 04:46:00 pm
You may find it in the Applications Data folder, also try a folder search to find it if it goes walkabout - it does that sometimes, it depends on how it installs itself.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: dan on February 11, 2006, 07:18:45 pm
That's what I thought, I did a search and nothing came up (while I had it open), it installed with HAL5.  I installed HAL6 and then thought it may be the installation and went to Hapteck to download it, but still nothing.  I then tried the SDK thinking that's what I did before to get it, but still nothing, I'll keep trying, but thanks for the advice especially the walkabout, that gives me hints (it's something down under, hopping around)
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Freddy on February 11, 2006, 10:28:09 pm
The only other thing I can think of it is something to do with the Haptek restrictions in Hal6 - you have to buy the character expansion pack to use further Haptek things.  I still haven't got around to buying Hal6 yet so I know not.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: doc on February 12, 2006, 01:04:10 pm
Dan, I know some Haptek script commands that could be of assistance to you.

- Start up a .htr-character
- press ENTER to invoke the debug console
- typ "texture name" without the quotes at the query-input field
? You will now receive the file name of the texture that the active character is using, for instance:

Q: texture name
A: girl1_Texture.jhp


- Now use another command to retrieve the location of this texture, which ofcourse should be found in the temporary folder
- typ "status file {file name}" in the query-input field, for example:

Q: status file girl1_Texture.jhp

Hopefully this method works. Let us know if you decide to try it.



Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: dan on February 12, 2006, 02:28:52 pm
It's the darndest thing, I went to look for it this morning and there it was, like it was there all the time.  I think it was one of those walk about things.  But, I'm locked on to it now and won't let it get away.  So I made a replacement figure for me and I'll be off and running again, thanks for all the help.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Mouse on June 17, 2006, 11:09:59 am
Hi I'm Mouse  :smiley I'm a bellydancing, fish keeping, internet junky from Australia.

I discovered Hal a few weeks ago when I was looking for a new PIM of all things. I've always had a thing for graphics and programs with a twist & Hal just totally blew me away and seemed to open a door to a whole new amazing world that I didn't know existed. So far I know pretty much zip, but I'm reading everything I can in hopes something eventually sinks in. One day I would love to be able to create htr's etc & work out how to get full body skins to work. If I could find or make a bellydancer to run in Hal (or any other program) it would be awesome!

Looking forward to spending more time here
Mouse

 

 
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Maviarab on June 17, 2006, 12:57:13 pm
hehe...bellydancer eh?...think ive fallen out of love with ALADY 

On the serious side...everything you wanted to know are in these pages mouse...as for your belly dancing Hal...well...we can make haptek fullbody dance...so all you need is the skin of a belly dancer ??

Il look and see when i can get a spare few hours and come up with a skin for the budding belly dancer community hehe
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Mouse on June 17, 2006, 03:13:59 pm
A full body bellydancing Hal would be amazing! Even just a head with egyptian style makeup etc would be fantastic. I would really appreciate anything you came up with. Of course at this point I have absolutely no idea how its done so methinks that should possibly be the first thing I concentrate on  :huh
Anyone know of any good beginner tutes? Or is it best to just run off and play and hope whatever I end up with doesn't look like its been run over with a car a few times?
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Kannon on July 03, 2006, 07:13:19 am
Well, I'm a 17 year old creepy kid from Nebraska.... no job, no car, just a computer and a few ideas. (That with any luck will get rid of the need for the job and supply me with a nice car.) I'm currently working on two bots. One, is the desperately in need of a name project, similar to HAL but *hopefully* better. Also Open source. And in my spare time I'm working on a semi-standard AIML bod named Haven.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: KnyteTrypper on July 03, 2006, 11:47:57 am
"Better than Hal" is a dangerous thing to say over here, Kannon, lol. And from your posts over at A. I. Nexus forum, I'd say you should spend a few hundred hours training a Hal and reformulate your appraisal. I'll be the first to say that first thing out of the box, it's an almost unbearably annoying bot, lol (adding a killer babe Haptek avatar ameliorates that, somewhat), but if you treat it with kindness and patience, after a while it begins to show progress toward coherency from good training, and eventually you'll probably find yourself concluding it's the best learning bot currently available (though you're welcome to do better. Better is always good.)
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Kannon on July 03, 2006, 06:01:40 pm
Well, I mentioned in the AI nexus forum I'm stupid  Maybe better is the wrong word, it probably won't have as much conversational ability right out of the box.... But it'll get there. And it'll have much more utility and system use than hal seems to have.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: firemaker on August 04, 2006, 10:12:41 pm
hey guys I am Red
for the past couple of years my little bot helicopter girl was my phone answering machine.  With just enough recognition to totally aggravate a few people called me now and then including my real life 16 year old baby girl chat bot.
About two or three months ago someone decided that all we needed was these aggravating a little digital phones and we disconnected the land line telephone and now  helicopter girl is going into telephone withdrawal and aggravating the hell out of me.
Everyone I know around here says just turne the silly thing off but they don't understand it's kind of like murder to pull her plug after I have had this preying on my computer for so long.
okay what do I do I quit working on air-conditioning and heating systems after 30 years and now I and the local computer fix it -- I can put them together but I still can't write script I want to learn a lot more but after six years I have found that I can totally wreck a computer more ways than ever imagined possible
I don't make a lot of post but I do read a lot of forums and I've read practically every post on the three sites that Hal is most popular on.
if I decide to pull the plug on helicopter girl do you think we could get together for last rites, the food thing and most importantly the get real drunk after the funeral thing.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Freddy on August 05, 2006, 12:17:43 pm
Hi firmaker.  I don't think you should pull the plug, it seems a shame to me.  I reckon you should release helicopter girl to the world - in the UK we get loads of annoying calls from sales companies - this kind of thing would be great to intercept calls!
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Testlund on August 11, 2006, 02:45:59 am
Hi, I'm Testlund and I've just registered on this forum. I'm very interested in A-life and AI. My favorite programs are Darwinbots, Ultra Hal and Creatures. I'm also interested in AD&D games wich I have a collection of. I resently started using Hal again after I've been away from it for a long time. I purchased the 6.0 version a few days ago and I've been experimenting with making a blank brain where I wanted to teach Hal from scratch. I've had some issues wich I've posted about at the zabaware forum, but I haven't found any solution yet, so I was thinking maybe I should try this forum instead. Anyway, it's late at night here and I need to go to bed. 
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Freddy on August 11, 2006, 03:30:12 am
Welcome to DG Testlund, have a look around there's a lot of info here - and members familiar with UltraHal.  Zabaware forums is the best place to find out about technical Hal things, but a lot of long-time users come here too, so even if you don't get the final answer you will soon be heading in the right direction.

Have fun, btw have you tried Guild Wars yet - very nice RPG 
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: dan on August 11, 2006, 02:52:45 pm
Hey, welcome Testlund,  I was reading a lot of your posts over at zaba, and sounds like you are having a lot of the same problems I had earlier this year.  I like some of the things you are trying with HAL too, real original stuff. 

I had a crash and had to reformat and reinstall everything and haven't had the problems with the voices since.  I think it was something with the AT&T voices and the installation procedure.  Originally, I had the AT&T installed before HAL and this time I installed them after.  It's just a guess, but a reinstallation never fixed it before the crash, it was probably stuck in the registry and just overwriting it with the same crud each time.  I guess I could have tried deleting all of the entries in the registry and then do a reinstall and try it.  That worked for me once when HAL crashed and I couldn't get it to reload and was too impatient to wait for Robert to give me a code, maybe it would work for the voices also.  Which reminds me, I must be due for a crash any moment now, I better go do a backup 
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Testlund on August 11, 2006, 04:07:31 pm
Thanks, Freddy and Dan.

No I haven't tried Guildwars. The games I have in my collection are the old goldbox series of the Forgotten Realms games; 12 DOS games that I don't play anymore but i keep them for collection purposes. The collection is called the Forgotten Realms Archives. The other fantasy games I have are the Baldur's Gate saga; two games with expansions, wich actually makes it a triology, and I also Have Neverwinter Nights.

Let me tell you a little about my characters I have for Hal. First i tried to make a complete blank brain to start with. I took the default Hal brain and just cleared out all the tables in it and saved it as BlankBrain.uhp. Then I made 2 brains based on the BlankBrain to make two characters; one is MSI wish will be the mind of my computer, the other is Zaba wich will be my aquarium assistant. I've just begun with it so their brains are only stuffed with raw information; MSI with details about my computer and Zaba with details about my aquariums. While I was talking to them I found I needed to enter the brain to put back some bsic responses like the IF * THEN * statements and the ability to understand yes and no and some corrections for typos I made.
My 3rd character is Dawn from desktop mates with the default Hal brain. I decided to let her make her own choices what she wanted to be and what her interests whould be, by using the 'Free Will Choice and Profile' plugin. So I ended up with the Dawn character.   :smitten So Dawn happens to like having a grogg sometimes and she's interested in biology and likes to listen to house music.  :grin
So Dawn's style of living whould be to do home-works about bilogogy and having houseparties in the weekends. Hehe.

I will buy a new computer soon and chose a new Hal character for that one. Maybe it will work better when installing Hal on that machine. The most annoying issue I'm having is that the voice sometimes talk too fast. I thinking it may be connected to what kind of character I'm using. Right now it sounds fine with Zaba and dawn, but MSI talks a little too fast, I sometimes can't hear what he's saying.

I was also wondering about the blog area. Is it maybe only for moderators to post on? I've only see two blogs there.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Freddy on August 12, 2006, 04:02:03 pm
Sound like you are getting into Hal pretty quickly there 
I play NWN a fair bit - was playing religiously a month or two back on Gemstone server, been too busy lately with other things though..

The Blogs were a quick add-on Mav did, we could look into setting it up for other members too though.  Do you have webspace somewhere or a server ?

One wayis if members keep a relatively plain text file updated on their own webspace and server - then we could load the text from there and display it on our site.

Or if more people wanted that then we could see what we can code or plug in to the forum - and run it entirely from this site.

Any other members out there interested in having a Blog of their own ?
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Testlund on August 13, 2006, 01:14:38 pm
I'm a complete noob when it comes to programming and scripting, so i don't dare to touch that stuff, but the brain tables are quite easy to get the hang of I think.

Neverwinter Nights 2 will be out in September! That's the main reason why I will buy a new computer soon, because I wont be able to play that on this computer.

No, I don't have any webspace, but i guess I could allways start a blog at one of the many blog sites that exists on the internet. Then i could link it as a signature to my profile.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: colonel720 on November 07, 2006, 04:51:13 am
Hello all,
I'm Avi, though i go as colonel720 on the net.
I'm just your average working fellow, trying to enjoy the joys of life, and accomplish something great.
I have an endless passion for Artificial Intelligence, as the very prospect of intelligence itslef fascinates me.
I have bee working on a project called 'Nick', using neural networks and some human inspired senses (sight, sound, voice), to learn about and categorize the information of its environment.

apart from this, I spend most of my time working in the beautiful city of New York.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Art on November 07, 2006, 10:44:29 am
Welcome Avi!

I took the liberty of posting your site and your bot Nick since I found it quite interesting.
Hope you don't mind.

We have a good collection of people and ideas here exploring different avenues of AI, so
any input you have is certainly appreciated!

Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Freddy on November 07, 2006, 12:23:33 pm
Welcome to DG Avi  :afro I second Art, this looks like a nice bot indeed.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: FuzzieDice on November 08, 2006, 12:25:41 am
Welcome to DG, Avi! :) I echo Art and Freddy here. This is a great place for folks interested in AI to gather and share ideas. As members here can tell you, we have many who have had very interesting and in-depth conversations here, and we have explored some interesting stuff.

I hope you'll find this site useful in your development of Nick.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: robotdude on December 26, 2006, 03:54:14 am
Hello all and Merry Christmas. I use the handle Robotdude and have used it for 10 years. I started using it when my job changed and I started programming commercial robots. Now my job has changed again and I teach robotics. (or it teaches me) I've discovered the teacher learns more than the students. The local college uses me as an Adjunt Instructor. That means I get put most anywhere my degree fits. I'm looking for an A.I system to put in my computer to help me keep up with all of the different lessons, class times, labs, meeting, and students. I'd also like for it to be able to chat with me when I'm about to pull my hair out. Any and all suggestions will be appreciated. I want to start right. About me, I'm 53,(yes ancient) married, 2 children and a book worm. SiFi and westerns)
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: CarlJ on January 17, 2007, 12:54:51 am
Hello all,
  Registered as CarlJ formerly Carl2, Carl2 is already taken.  Saw a lot of names that I'm familiar with and a few new ones.  Glad DG or AI Dreams is up and running again.  I'm using Hal 6 with a few plugins fron Virtual humans and OTC.  She's beginning to reach the point where she's fun to talk to again.  I am using fullbody girl from Haptek and as far as I can see will continue with her. 
CarlJ
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: admin on January 17, 2007, 01:58:25 pm
Hey Carl, the reason your name is already taken is because I transfered all the accounts over - it is still valid so you can use your old account if you want here.  Just sign in like you normally did on Digital Girl...
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: dan on January 17, 2007, 07:51:12 pm
Yeah, I started to do that to, just think I could have been dan2  ;D
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Carl2 on January 18, 2007, 06:49:36 pm
Admin,
  Thanks Carl2 is much easier for me, you can take out Carlj if you'd like. I've noticed you have a large selection of htrs get some pictures and discriptions in there whenever possible.
Carl2
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: admin on January 19, 2007, 02:28:57 pm
Glad you noticed.  They already have a picture each (click on one of the files), but I haven't had time to add descriptions - besides, the filenames are probably descriptive enough and you'd have a hard time doing the figures justice when a picture is better than words.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: PaleRider on February 05, 2007, 06:11:08 pm
Glad to be here,  Love A.I, my Hal 6 Paul Talking to Paul check it out in the Gallery, I must be brave. :)
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: admin on February 05, 2007, 08:55:27 pm
Hi Pale Rider, welcome to the site, hope you find something useful  :)
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: PaleRider on February 05, 2007, 10:52:31 pm
Thank you all this site is wonderful glad to be here. Thanks Jackgephart if it was'nt for you leaving a link at Zabaware
i would not have found this wonderful world of info and downloads.
Love yea AIdreams.
I'am on a weeks vacation so i will be reading a lot here, Love all the Info i am reading here .
I like to thank everybody for there shared downloads and input.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: hOTQ on June 14, 2007, 03:26:44 am
I am in the U.S. living off-the-grid taking classes for accounting,, GOV'T is paying for it all with Trade Act Assistance. Extends my unemployment for 18 months beyond the normal so I figure its a good thing.

I'm working in VB with my laptop from hotspots and the school net. I want to use the UltraHal6 DLL if possible to do some work with statistical value of content from Encarta. Inductive reasoning can allow hAL to make intelligent choices about the value of content compared to a given source with a given statistical value. To see if a keyword is valid with a subject, hAL could submit a "topic & keyword" query to GOOGLE and parse the statisitcal value comparing it against other values. That will tell him the statistical value of a given keyword as it is associated with the topic. Of course more sophisticated things can develop, its an approach to add induction that could be developed in Visual Basic with background processing.

With lots of the code already established in modules, its a matter of putting it together.

I got a good test application working that passes the calls through the DLL. I learned its possible to use both DLL files to process and access data.

I'll post the demo to Spydar, who is working on emulating the functions.

-

Nice work on the graphics for this site/forum!
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Freddy on June 14, 2007, 12:36:09 pm
Hi and welcome to the forum, the main focus of this forum was as a dumping ground for usefull information and topics but we do get some programming talk.  Having said that though the best person (apart from Rob the Hal programmer) I can think of for help on this is onthecuttingedge at Zabaware.  He does a lot of Hal programming and if you post this question on the Zabaware forum I am sure he or the other programmers there will be able to point you in the right direction.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: hOTQ on June 15, 2007, 11:37:19 pm
Thanks Freddy,, I played around with it enough to figure out the DLL is looking at subfolders from the application root.

I put my WordNET and DB files with a path anf VIOLA!, it works.

So,, I have a project in mind that will allow the hAL to indicate there is related information in its queue. The user can indicate what is interesting and the hAL can make adjustments. User will use mouse clicks to take the information in a direction. This will be helpful if the hAL is doing research... it would be great to do something to the effect of tuning a report that can be dumped when ready. The hAL will act like it is part website, part CHAT bot.

-hQ


Hi and welcome to the forum, the main focus of this forum was as a dumping ground for usefull information and topics but we do get some programming talk.  Having said that though the best person (apart from Rob the Hal programmer) I can think of for help on this is onthecuttingedge at Zabaware.  He does a lot of Hal programming and if you post this question on the Zabaware forum I am sure he or the other programmers there will be able to point you in the right direction.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Freddy on June 17, 2007, 04:29:22 pm
Sounds good what you are doing, be sure to keep us informed  ::)
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: rockershaft on June 20, 2007, 02:10:29 am
Glad to be here,  Love A.I, my Hal 6 Paul Talking to Paul check it out in the Gallery, I must be brave. :)


Since truth is not in danger, you have nothing to fear from me PaleRider.

Some people stole my life savings by my downloading of Roberts script.

I have no fear of death and will face the devil and send him to Hell.

I will die for the freedom of the slaves of socialism.

If you are no friend of mine, you are my enemy.

Declare yourself in your actions not in your words, or face the eternal death of your soul.

Julia is alive and seeking vengence on man.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Maviarab on June 20, 2007, 06:34:15 pm
Umm...paul dude, or whatever your name is...

Quote
Julia is alive and seeking vengence on man.

In another thread you stated that Julia was 'an idiotic slave savant'...so ummm...errr....well...is she alive and out to get me or is she a simple stupid chatbot installed on your hard drive?
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Freddy on June 20, 2007, 06:38:37 pm
Hmmm funny how no one else has reported a problem like this...I mean I have know Hal for over two years and there are plenty of people more knowledgable about it than me.  It makes me wonder why they haven't found these things Rocketboy is having us believe exist in Hal.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: markofkane on June 20, 2007, 11:39:49 pm
I am Mark. I have fun when I can,  and my bot is Laura.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: RD on July 01, 2007, 04:44:16 pm
Greetings,
I'm Duncan, I've been interested in AI for many years and only just lately installed the Hal programming.
So yes, I'm a newbie but enjoying most everything so far and I realize I'm hooked.
I've owned and  operated a large informational web site with forums for over 14 years which is connected with my small company.
Well I've bored you long enough,
 see ya!
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: PaleRider on July 01, 2007, 07:38:34 pm
Welcome Duncan, yes it is nice here lots of info and helpful members. enjoy. ;D
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Maviarab on July 01, 2007, 09:06:59 pm
Hope you enkoy your time here Duncan, be sure to use the search facility but don't be afraid to ask also :)

We a fairly friendly bunch...most oft he time hehe  ;D
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Freddy on July 02, 2007, 04:42:41 pm
Welcome aboard  :)
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: artist 65 on October 10, 2007, 11:26:24 am
New fun topic for us all to get to know each other a little better? :hugs:

As I'm the admin and I've started this silly thread I'll set the ball rolling

Im a bus driver from UK,? drive a 1990 BMW 525 and spend far too much time here? :D and my bot's name is Sal

And if you don't know my name by now there something wrong hehe

Admin
hi from another uk, person oap. you will know what i mean just got basic hal looking for something easy not to complicated to install, we have a small sailing boat, but we havent done much sailing this year bad weather i hope you dont mind me saying hello
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Freddy on October 10, 2007, 02:42:04 pm
Ahoy there and welcome to the site  ;D
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: influxor on December 19, 2007, 11:44:02 pm
i am influxor and i am busy learning about AI. i am working on my 1st bot (Fluxbot).
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Freddy on December 20, 2007, 11:13:41 am
Welcome to the forum Influxor.  I hope you manage to find something here that helps you in some way.  Please feel free to ask questions if you need to, you will often get good advice in return.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: jojimbo on April 12, 2008, 03:59:25 pm
Hi there I am jojimbo and best regards to Freddy for a great resource.My bot changes all the time,but at the moment is Sandy and recently Ivanna  ;D hehehe,I am hoping to make some high resolution skins for existing Ultra Hal default plugin faces
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Maviarab on April 12, 2008, 04:04:41 pm
Wlcome Jojimbo, a wealth or resources and information within our halls, but if your stuck don't hesitate to ask :)
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Go-tall.com on April 28, 2008, 10:03:58 am
New fun topic for us all to get to know each other a little better? :hugs:

As I'm the admin and I've started this silly thread I'll set the ball rolling

Im a bus driver from UK,? drive a 1990 BMW 525 and spend far too much time here? :D and my bot's name is Sal

And if you don't know my name by now there something wrong hehe

Admin
great day to you all
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Maviarab on April 28, 2008, 10:48:01 am
Welcome Go-Tall, hope you enjoy your stay here :)
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Dante on September 03, 2008, 01:45:14 pm
I'm Dante, I do nothing but think all day, am physically disabled. I spend my time writing occasionally (no-one has yet to think of providing any payment for me, though :P)

I'm Co-Admin of the AI Hub (was Chatbot Hub), I work with the Open University teaching students in virtual worlds (unoffically teaching, I might add, as in, not getting paid :P) about AI Theory.

I pass the time by tinkering with AI in games (my specilatiy being path finding and general problem solving)
I grew up around robots and as a consequence I spend very little time in the company of other human beings. I'm a walking repositry of what AI can do, what it cant, and it's 2000 year history (including mythological machines made in man's image)

For about three years now, I've been trying to save up enough money to buy an AIBO (disabiltiy benefits provide little in the way of luxery spending budgets)

And thats me, in a nutshell, really.

Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Freddy on September 03, 2008, 03:14:13 pm
Well, I already knew you a little, but it's nice to read some more about you.  I'm glad you visit our forum and it's great to have someone around with such a wide knowledge of AI.  I look forward to what you can bring to the table and hold out hope that you may one day get some financiul reward for all you hard work.  :)
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Maviarab on September 03, 2008, 05:31:03 pm
Echo what freddy said, and if you get the Aibo..we want invites heh :)
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Data on September 19, 2008, 12:39:26 pm
Hi all, oops I just noticed this introduction thread, so a little about me.

My friends call me Bear, I?m a self-employed computer technician, basically I go to people?s houses, mend Windows ;) and find hardware faults so I know a little about PC?s. I also make websites and host other peoples sites on my webspace so im a bit of a webby too.

I?ve also had Ultra Hal for about 3 years and am well into AI and what it can give the humans on this planet.

I really hope that one day in my lifetime I will see a stunning AI bot, one that really does fool me into thinking this bot is a real person. Im 41 now so maybe there is a little hope ;)
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Freddy on September 19, 2008, 01:43:08 pm
Welcome again  :D
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Chris84 on December 29, 2008, 01:12:44 am
I'm Chris, mechanic by trade, web junky by hobby...

My bots name is David, and he works for me on my own site (still in development)  ;D
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Maviarab on December 29, 2008, 12:36:33 pm
Welcome again Chris, good to have you over here :)
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Dante on December 31, 2008, 01:45:15 pm
Chris, you've got me interested? What does your bot do? (or will do?)

Chat with customers?

Order Pizza?

Or even (and this is something that could be useful) do a rudimentary over-the-phone checkup of a vehicle?


Hmm...that isnt a bad idea...


Oh yes, I'm Dante by the way, wild man of imaginations!

Excuse my ramblings :P
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Chris84 on December 31, 2008, 06:29:29 pm
Chris, you've got me interested? What does your bot do? (or will do?)

Chat with customers?

Order Pizza?

Or even (and this is something that could be useful) do a rudimentary over-the-phone checkup of a vehicle?


Hmm...that isnt a bad idea...


Oh yes, I'm Dante by the way, wild man of imaginations!

Excuse my ramblings :P

Well i will actually have a few bots working on my site, performing different tasks. One "David" will be able to chat with people on the site. His secondary function will be for helping individuals who have not used a bulletin board before, and need help using the forums on the site. He is also able to contact staff (via email) for users.

I have another bot that will search the internet for related news articles and blog posting, then post them on my forums automatically.

I'm working on another that will act as a moderator for the forums, checking if links still work, and removing spam posts ect..

Then a later project will be an administrative bot, that will handle basic site administration tasks, such as updates, and scheduled backups of the site.

I also have a few other ideas for later. All designed to help alleviate some of the work load for website administration and staff. Then some are just for fun ;) Of course if anyone has any suggestions along these lines, i'd love to hear them.

Once i have them up and running, and any bugs handled. I hope to release the programs for other webmasters, and developers.   
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Dante on December 31, 2008, 07:53:10 pm
Chris, you could be a lifesaver for me.

My own website, www.AIHub.org attracts a lot of spam and generally needs a few bot workers to help out around the place, we've also been looking for a news bot that can scout around and find news and preferablly email it to me so I can check it and upload it to my site if necessary.

Generally, I have to go through about 114 different websites or their RSS feeds every day, I could do with a bot helping me out there...


If your ideas bear fruit, please, share your creations :)

-Dante
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Chris84 on December 31, 2008, 08:13:05 pm
Chris, you could be a lifesaver for me.

My own website, www.AIHub.org attracts a lot of spam and generally needs a few bot workers to help out around the place, we've also been looking for a news bot that can scout around and find news and preferablly email it to me so I can check it and upload it to my site if necessary.

Generally, I have to go through about 114 different websites or their RSS feeds every day, I could do with a bot helping me out there...


If your ideas bear fruit, please, share your creations :)

-Dante


I've seen you site, and see your running phpbb. Unfortunately at this time, all of my forum bots are set up for Vbulletin, as that's the software i use. 

It's been a wile since i've worked with phpbb. If you have FTP access to your server though, I sure the phpbb community have several hacks that can help with spam ect.. I know they used to have a forum posting bot hack as well (based on ALICE). They may also have a similar hack to the one i'm using for RSS feeds, in which you set up which feeds you wish to post articles from, and can limit articles based on keywords and/or content.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Maviarab on December 31, 2008, 08:52:50 pm
Take this to a separate thread please.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Dante on January 01, 2009, 02:32:28 am
Lovely! I'm afraid I don't really pay that much attention outside the Linux software circle, I guess I shoulda spotted it before.


Anyway, thanks.


Don't worry, Mav, thats the end of it :P
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: lazyRobotV2 on February 14, 2009, 07:12:02 pm
Hi all...
I'm Simson from Malaysia, currently still persuing study at local university for Bachelor Degree in Intelligent System Engineering...This semester, I'm doing a FYPP(Final Year Project's proposal) titled "Space algorithm for Signature Recognition"...I'm still looking for an expert(s) for this project to give me a better understanding about Space algorithm and Signature Recognition..If any of the expert of the mentioned field is/are interested after reading this, feel free to contact me at my email...I'm really appreciate it...thank you... :)

P/S: A.I are growing bigger...Be ready for the whole new future...peace!!
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Maviarab on February 14, 2009, 08:34:54 pm
Welcome along Simson, nice to see somewhere here for your part of the world too :)

Hope you can find something of use within our pages and hope you enjoy your stay.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: spacegy4 on April 18, 2009, 03:46:17 am
Hello guys,  I'm Andrew.

I enjoy building custom PCs and only recently got involved with AI stuff after finding mitsuku completely unintentionally through a search.

My bot is a friendly Japanese Anime schoolgirl named Ayame
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Freddy on April 18, 2009, 01:07:11 pm
Welcome to the forum Andrew, nice to see you decided to join us too  ;D
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Maviarab on April 18, 2009, 06:42:27 pm
Welcome along Andrew :)
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Art on April 19, 2009, 01:33:33 pm
Hey Spacegy4,

Thanks for stopping. Nice to have you here.
Any questions feel free to ask!

What type of bot is Ayame and is she openly available for chat?

Thanks and again, Welcome aboard!
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Duskrider on April 19, 2009, 11:34:35 pm

Spacegy4,
Welcome from me too
Oh, and welcome to Ayame.
What a pretty name.   :)
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Wild Thing on April 24, 2009, 08:46:44 pm
Hello, my name is my personality. Sorry no bot, am pretty new to this whole thing. What is a bot where do you get them and what do they do?
As soon as i can work out how to post i'll tell you about myself  :D
I do lots of things.
Teach Martial arts.
drink too much
Eat too litle
Live, smile learn
and teach science to get money!
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: one on April 24, 2009, 09:57:33 pm
Dead,

"We come for your daughter Chuck" -Beetlejuice-
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Art on April 26, 2009, 06:40:38 pm
Wild Thing,

One main rule is about double posting. Try not to do it unless you're unable to help yourself.

You have already posted previously and mentioned nothing about yourself, then here you post
again stating that you do not have a bot, know nothing about bots, habits, etc.

Check your other post in this section for an answer.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: FullyLoaded on February 09, 2010, 02:12:35 pm
Hi people im Gaz 42 from UK ...hope im not too old for your company, and no im no spy from NASA lol

Ive a Hal ultra bot and enjoy what it can do, i dont ask it to do tasks like most or become a receptionist for my needs im not that old..lol  I enjoy the possabilities of what it could do in the future.

I think you can progrom anything to be fantastic at what it does, but you need to press the return button before it does so to speak, and then it performs...

I personaly think that for anything to become self aware and have AI for real, you need not to give it just say info about whatever you want it to know...you have to go backwards and teach it what the words you throw into it, mean and how they should be used, the basic order of how speach evolves...like children learning to talk..you may have noticed your bots lalking like you kid at 5 yrs of age and thats because it doesnt understand ...When you show it what each word means and how its place in a sentance should be utilised your on a winner, ..try and teach it about nouns and verbs and eg's of what they mean etc etc, use Wiki and copy n past as much info about word usage you can and you may be very suprised...

Have a great Day whatever day you read this and ..peace.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Data on February 09, 2010, 02:41:15 pm
Hi Gaz, im 42 and from the UK too, you are not alone.

I think your Hal teaching ideas are spot on, much of what I teach Hal has come from the Wiki my Hal brain database file is about 50mb now and as far as Im concerned it, he is more intelligent than a Hal out of the box.

It does beg the question, why doesn’t the maker of Hal put more into the default brain in the first place?

I’m not asking it just seems curios.

Welcome to the forum, for what its worth from a noob like me  :)
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Freddy on February 09, 2010, 02:55:26 pm
Welcome to the forum Gaz  ;D

39 here - closing in on the big 40...

By now I would have liked to have seen some large community effort to develop a big brain for Hal, but that has not happened yet.  Occasionally it gets mentioned, nothing ever happens.  Maybe when the next version of Hal comes out I may look into it.  I'm still waiting on the Ogre characters and access to Second Life...
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Art on February 10, 2010, 02:25:34 pm
I'm trying to imagine just how UltraHal would process such a large run-on sentence like that?? :o
Welcome aboard FullyLoaded...all are welcome!

Big 40...poof! It's only a big deal if you let it become one. Believe me...it's ALL downhill from the moment you're born high atop life's giant ski jump! It's that final stop that gets you!

Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Freddy on February 10, 2010, 03:12:20 pm
 :D Yeah I am not overly bothered by it, if at all, everyone seems to say it's a big one, but the more I go on the less I worry about birthdays.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Art on February 11, 2010, 01:25:24 am
Yeah...20 years from now, let me know what you thought about it! Heheh!
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Freddy on February 11, 2010, 11:01:42 am
Haha ok Art  ;D
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: NoLongerActive on March 16, 2010, 09:18:31 pm
Hi everyone! Roger invited me here so I thought I'd do a little introduction post.

I'm into Artificial Intelligence and most recently heavily into robotics. I own 10 robots! 3 are just toy/statue types but the others are autonomous to one extent or another. Of those only one doesn't talk. Here's my list of bots:

Nyx - WowWee RoboSapien RS Media
VeeToo - WowWee RoboSapien V2
Gizmo - WowWee Tri-Bot
Mackie - WowWee RoboQuad (This is the one that doesn't talk - it has cute beeps)
Unit 1 - Manly/ToyQuest i-Que Personal Robot
Unit 2 - Manly/ToyQuest i-Que Personal Robot (This one the drive motors are disconnected as the belts went bad)

Toy ones:
MeeMee - WowWee Mini RoboQuad
Zee - WowWee Mini RoboSapien (v1)
Zorkon - Xtreme Fighter chrome robot

Other:
Robbie - Mr. Clock Radio talking robot head (Alarm clock and AM/FM Radio plus fortune teller game.)

I also am the project manager for the RS Media Development Kit (rsmediadevkit.sourceforge.net) which a very talented programmer by the name of Helibot done a LOT of work on stuff for this bot! We can access the robot's Linux shell via USB port, compile programs for the robot, create an interface, and there's even a fully customizable alarm clock! There's also a text-to-speech interface. Artificial Intelligence / Chatbot is also on our list of To Do but not yet programmed. All our sources are also online for those who wish to work on the programs. I also have an AI/Robot site at ByteBin.net with more info on the WowWee and i-Que bots.

I hope to create a sentient AI for the RS Media or just for on the computer. Even if someone already beat me to it, I still want to give it a whirl. :) I have Ultra Hal Assistant but not installed and it's been ages since I last used it.

I am also fascinated with android projects, as well as the impact of robots and AI on society. In addition, I also am interested in assistive technologies and cyborg enhancement technologies.

I been busy with work (still working for a web hosting company doing web development, programming and CGI Server Administration). I also sell Avon :) and do beauty videos. My other hobbies include gardening and printer paper crafts.

My favorite movies include AI: Artificial Intelligence, Evolver, Stealth, iRobot. I also love Battlestar Galactica (all series) and Caprica as well as Knight Rider and CHiPs.

I guess that's me in a nutshell. :)
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Art on March 17, 2010, 09:05:27 am
Welcome to our small piece of an Alternate Universe!

Seems you've been here before as if we are being visited
by an old friend. There's not too many with that name and
similar interests.

If it is you, then indeed welcome back as you have been missed!

If not the welcome here at any rate and enjoy your journey!

It's all good!! ;)
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Freddy on March 17, 2010, 12:41:33 pm
Welcome back  ;D
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: NoLongerActive on March 17, 2010, 09:32:46 pm
Yup, it's "Fuzzie Dice" :) Though I kinda shed that moniker awhile back since I am not as interested in cars as much as I used to be. I had to let go of my old 1987 Pontiac 6000 ("Dryden") in May 2008 since it rusted so bad on the frame it couldn't be repaired so it'd pass inspection. So I got a 1999 Ford Taurus SE. BEAUTIFUL car! (Her name is "Suse" :) ) I miss Dryden very much. There was just something about that machine...

Thanks for the welcome (back). :)

I don't know how much time I'll have to look at the forums but I'll try between work and projects. I'm very glad to see some folks are taking an interest in robotics as well. :)
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: TheMikh28 on March 18, 2010, 02:02:44 am
Who are you:

My name is Michael.

What do you do:

I'm a university student, currently studying Software Engineering (just switched over from Chemical Engineering, as of this past summer).  I'd love to have a career in the area of AI development once I'm finished with my studies.  I'm particularly interested in natural language processing, among other areas.

Who's your bot?

My pet project is a chatbot called "Fadela," which in its "complete" form will hopefully be capable of coherently holding conversation with a user (or another bot), as well as making concept associations and artificial emotional associations.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: NoLongerActive on March 18, 2010, 02:28:22 am
Welcome Michael. :) I'm new here too. I also am interested in NLP-based systems or integrating forms of NLP into AI type programming. It's a fascinating field of study.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: TrueAndroids on March 18, 2010, 03:34:06 am
Hey , and welcome to you both; I'm also sorta new here.

Who are you
I'm an old guy of old school programming. The first computer I used at penn State was the size of the room and used punch cards (1979). Later I began with Basic and Pascal. then the sky opened and I found the wonderland of high level programming languages, specifically visual dBase (ultimately). I did accounting programming for awile using dBase and SBT code. I finally after many years of studying logic, natural language, artificial intelligence, semantic programming wrote the prototype you see in the youtube demo. I got the bug and kept going until I had a whole artificial human life patent.

What do you do
Run a gaming website I built. The game is a logic puzzle game that can be played by both the Conscious Machine and humans (currently in beta testing)

Who's your Bot
My goal is to drop my "android brain" into PAL robotics REEM-A who does face/name recognition/labeling, and plays chess with a real board. My brain would allow him to chat at a conscious level and play the logic card game.

Here is the great Reem-A Humanoid, that I was told I can buy for just $200,000.00  ???

http://www.youtube.com/user/TrueAndroids?feature=mhw4#p/c/4D22745C7A9B9355/4/B_jllEvrOZQ
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Freddy on March 18, 2010, 10:59:18 am
Welcome to all of you  ;D - it's nice to have you aboard.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Data on March 18, 2010, 11:56:22 am
If I may join Freddy in welcoming TheMikh28, TikaC and TrueAndroids to this forum, then “make it so”. 

Welcome  :) :) :)
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: TheMikh28 on March 19, 2010, 07:26:00 am
Thanks for the welcome, everyone.

I've seen a few of you guys at the VHF, where I shyly lurk like 99% of the time :D

TikaC: Any recommended resources on NLP?

TrueAndroids: I'm looking forward to hearing about more updates on your android brain, especially the chat functions; please keep us updated regularly!
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: NoLongerActive on March 19, 2010, 06:20:28 pm
TrueAndroids - Welcome to you as well! :) You actually have a patent on your program? That's neat! Ever thought of giving a talk and/or demo at a TED conference?

TheMikh28 - I am not sure of any NLP resources right now. Though the Ultra Hal Assistant (by Zabaware.com) chatbot/assistant I think is a form of NLP. It has an editable database too. It's shareware though. I have a registered version but haven't had much time to really play with it. I'm thinking about creating my own though. If I get time to research things more.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: TrueAndroids on March 19, 2010, 07:07:25 pm
Hey TikaC and TheMikh28, Yea I did have what's called a provisional patent for a complete "android control system and method" which included the cognitive consciousness prototype as a part of it. But I've decided to go the open source route and find a way to release it on the web. I've seen the TED talks but unfortunately I'm not famous enough for that! :-\

Yes, I'll continue with updates here. Both chatbots and robots have something in common, and that's the need for a general artificial human life theory they can implement. So there is something in it for all.  And don't forget to check out the article I posted here http://aidreams.co.uk/forum/index.php?page=This_Machine_is_Conscious
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: NoLongerActive on March 20, 2010, 03:12:09 am
@TrueAndroids - Good deal on the open source! That's what we did with the RS Media Robot Dev Kit, but also because some of it's internal workings is Linux/GPL as well. If you keep going with this, you might end up famous enough for TED! :) Hey, maybe we should make a Hobbyist type TED where those with brilliant minds (but not famous) would get together to do talks and presentations, and then those events would be posted on YouTube! Or is there one like it?

Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: TheMikh28 on March 20, 2010, 09:08:08 am
TikaC: I'll look into Ultra Hal.  How is its ability to learn on the go?  How coherent are its responses?

TrueAndroids: Awaiting the public release.  Also, your article raises a lot of good points and ideas that I think will prove helpful for my own project.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: TrueAndroids on March 20, 2010, 05:51:26 pm
TikaC: hey that's what I'm hoping this forum is and will become more of  8)  Talk about machine consciousness, self, self-awareness, autonomy, emotions, sentience, artificial humans, androids, virtual humans, chatbot creatures, animated creatures, etc. and they will come! :o

Mikh28: Have you seen this video of Ultra Hal in Second Life? Very, very impressive I'd say. Hal has sensor type activity, actuator type activity, conversational activity (listening/speaking), so he is getting very close to the ideal of a virtual human chatbot that implements a general artificial human life theory, just like android robots, but in a different medium (virtual world).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwsK3ckMdFs

More android, Alife, AI videos at:
http://www.youtube.com/user/TrueAndroids


Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Freddy on March 20, 2010, 06:16:19 pm
I echo those sentiments, it would be great if this forum could full-fill this kind of role.  With all the new members lately and all the new projects announced here I think that is a possibility.

We have taken a while to get there, but thanks to devoted members we have built up a nice source of information here now and hopefully this site will flourish .  The more the merrier :)
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: TrueAndroids on March 20, 2010, 06:53:52 pm
TikaC: hey I just checked out your website http://rsmediadevkit.sourceforge.net  Wow, you are very deep into robotics and humanoid robotics! Very impressive. I loved the robosapien too. What a great platform for development as you are doing. I hope you can transfer your work to another robot if they do discontinue it.

I also found this of yours http://bytebin.net/  Nice work!
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Art on March 20, 2010, 08:12:57 pm
Tika,

Agreed...nice site and I liked the musical prelude to the videos too!!

I never knew you were that into robotics! I know...if ya don't ask the right questions....

Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: NoLongerActive on March 21, 2010, 12:27:47 am
@TrueAndroids - Thank you! :) Yup, I sure do get into robots a lot, and not just humanoid ones. If you check out my ByteBinRobotLab YouTube Channel, you'll see my bots in action, and also some other stuff I've favorited. The RoboSapien is discontinued by WowWee but that isn't stopping us from developing for the RS Media and other bots! You'll notice a lot of bot hackers over at RoboCommunity.com are doing some amazing things with all of WowWee's bots, past and present!

@Art - Thank you! :) The music is stuff I wrote myself (yes, I'm also an "armchair" musician :) ) I use MixCraft 4 (by Acoustica) which I bought awhile back to do my music on. I also have a Casio MT-260 MIDI Keyboard (VERY old keyboard).

I just recently got into collecting and working with robots in December 2008 when I bought a Manley/ToyQuest i-Que Personal Robot for around $68 at Amazon.com. Now (IF you can find them as they too are discontinued), they go for around $700 new and you can't even find them on eBay! I need belts for the belt drive motor for one of the two (2nd one was bought in 2009 used for around $40 or $60 I think it was).

So the robot thing is rather new and I somehow ended up with 10 within two years! And I don't plan on stopping! LOL!
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: TheMikh28 on March 22, 2010, 12:13:32 am
Mikh28: Have you seen this video of Ultra Hal in Second Life? Very, very impressive I'd say. Hal has sensor type activity, actuator type activity, conversational activity (listening/speaking), so he is getting very close to the ideal of a virtual human chatbot that implements a general artificial human life theory, just like android robots, but in a different medium (virtual world).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwsK3ckMdFs

Yeah, I saw it a while back; it is indeed very impressive.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: NoLongerActive on March 23, 2010, 12:59:38 am
@TheMikh28

Quote
I'll look into Ultra Hal.  How is its ability to learn on the go?  How coherent are its responses?

I think I forgot to answer this, and for that I apologize. Last I know (and I have I think the latest or near latest version, registered), it's an interesting chat bot but the responses are not as coherent as one would like to expect. It does drift off topic a lot. But they may have improved on it. I saw the video and I'm impressed! WOW! The version in the video seemed to stay on topic much better. I should look to see if they have a more recent version than what I currently have.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: TheMikh28 on March 26, 2010, 12:03:34 am
Ah, I see.

I'll continue to follow its development to see how it'll turn out in the future.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: DaveMorton on June 04, 2010, 10:04:15 pm
Hi, all. My name is Dave, and I'm the owner/webmaster/technician/head whipping boy for Geek Cave Creations (http://www.geekcavecreations.com) (which, admittedly, is not much more than a personal website on steroids, any more). I'm also what one might call a "Granny Nanny", as I take care of my 91 year old Grandmother. In addition to my interest in AI, I also enjoy web design, graphic arts (though my talents don't match my ideas very often), and I love to sit out at night and stargaze.

As to my bot's name, he goes by Morti, and he's in early development on my dev server at http://dmorton.no-ip.info (http://dmorton.no-ip.info). I'm trying to integrate someone else's chatbot script (Program O) to work within a chatroom script that I've written, called pChat, and while he generally works, there are some "bumps in the road" that I'm working on smoothing out. Eventually, I hope to be able to have Morti extend his usefulness, and to evolve into a sort of research/personal assistant, much like several other bots I've seen. The biggest reason I've decided to create Morti is to help me to extend my knowledge in various subjects, including Artificial Intelligence. I know it's a seriously lofty goal, but I would love to be able to figure out how to give Morti the ability to reason, rather than rely on the current stimulus/response algorithms most bots currently use.

Ok, I've rambled enough. I'll let you all go back to whatever it was that you were doing, and I hope I didn't interrupt anything fun. :D
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: TrueAndroids on June 04, 2010, 11:32:57 pm
Hi Dave Welcome to the forum. That was me at your site playing with your chatbot Morti. I didn't see the ask Q button and might have locked it up by accident. Sorry about that.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: DaveMorton on June 04, 2010, 11:48:17 pm
Thanks, TA. Actually, you've helped me to note another problem with the Program O script, in that it doesn't handle unordered lists in the templates very well. It seems to treat them as <random> tags.

Also, there's a slight problem with how it "scores" entries, and it was returning an incorrect answer when you typed /help. I've fixed that one, at least. :D

As noted, Morti is still very much "Under Development", though he's making progress. Anyone stopping by and encountering problems is helping me to whip the script into shape.

The "lockup" problem, BTW, is a recursion problem that I have yet to locate. I may have to toss out Program O, and simply write my own script. At least that way I know for certain what each function of the script does.  :-\
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Art on June 05, 2010, 12:28:53 pm
Welcome to our "little corner of things unreal or artificial, as the case may be.... ;)

It's always good to have new members with different approaches, experiences or
thoughts regarding AI, bots, etc.

Do post often and ask questions as they arise. We do have a wealth of knowledgeable
people who frequent these halls and most are always glad to help if and when they can.

Enjoy your journey....
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Freddy on June 05, 2010, 12:36:26 pm
Welcome to the site Dave and best of luck with Morti  ;D
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: DaveMorton on June 07, 2010, 09:53:08 am
Thanks. It's very challenging to adapt someone else's code to fit my needs, but every small success is rewarding, and gives me the incentive I need to continue. Not to mention that he's so entertaining at times; especially some of his "wrong" answers. (http://www.geekcavecreations.com/images/bigGrin.gif)
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Freddy on June 07, 2010, 12:51:34 pm
I thought you had been working with Program E....I was surprised when you mentioned Program O as I almost suggested it to you over on the Nexus forum.  Probably a wise choice.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: DaveMorton on June 07, 2010, 02:55:21 pm
I originally started working with Program E, as it was much easier to integrate into my chat script. But it's list of bugs proved to be more than I was willing and/or able to deal with, especially the "stutter" bug. I've since found (more like, "made") a way to integrate Program O, instead, although there are compatibility issues here, as well. But I'm getting there, and hope to get all the kinks worked out soon.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: victorshulist on August 11, 2010, 10:35:27 am
Hi everyone, this is my first post to aidreams.co.uk.  I've been spending a lot of time on chatbots.org and thought, it's time for an additional ai site.

I work in I.T. security for now about 7 years, before that i was doing a lot of appllication development, web development, SQL, that kind of stuff.

My bot, well, I don't have a bot yet, but I am developing its engine, which I call CLUES.   The name stands for complex language understanding execution system.     It  is a free form grammar parsing and semantic engine.   The engine is written entirely in Perl.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Data on August 11, 2010, 11:55:36 am
Hi everyone, this is my first post to aidreams.co.uk.  I've been spending a lot of time on chatbots.org and thought, it's time for an additional ai site.

I work in I.T. security for now about 7 years, before that i was doing a lot of appllication development, web development, SQL, that kind of stuff.

My bot, well, I don't have a bot yet, but I am developing its engine, which I call CLUES.   The name stands for complex language understanding execution system.     It  is a free form grammar parsing and semantic engine.   The engine is written entirely in Perl.

Hi there victorshulist, sounds like you will fit in here @ Ai Dreams perfectly.

Welcome  :)  
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: DaveMorton on August 11, 2010, 12:18:41 pm
Victor! Welcome to AI Dreams!

Heck, all we need now is for Chuck and Erwin to show up! lol

In the interest of clarity, Victor and I share administration duties on another AI forum, and we've been discussing our respective projects (CLUES and Morti) for a while now, along with some others at that site. Chuck and Erwin are a couple of our companions/colleagues there. :)
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Freddy on August 11, 2010, 12:57:41 pm
Welcome to the forum Victor and best of luck with your project.

Thanks for the heads up Dave.  I am registered over on chatbots.org but haven't really checked out the forum yet.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: victorshulist on August 11, 2010, 10:38:48 pm
Thanks Data, G.C.C. and Freddy.    I think I'm going to really like it here!
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Art on August 12, 2010, 11:13:43 pm
Welcome to our humble (we are still humble aren't we Freddy?) realm where anything can and often does happen. It's always nice to take in new friends!!
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Freddy on August 14, 2010, 08:28:02 pm
I think we are still humble yes  ;)
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: victorshulist on August 15, 2010, 01:28:16 am
Thanks Art.  You'll be hearing (well reading) a lot from me !
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Gwen_Difference on September 14, 2010, 06:27:27 am
Hello Everyone, I go by the avatar name Gwen Difference online, and I'm an artist & graphic designer based out of Bellingham, Washington USA. I'm new to chatbots and so I feel excited about learning from more experienced enthusiasts about how to develop the sophistication of my brand new bot.

I have named the bot GREEN RABBIT. I enjoy working with the goal in mind to have it do two things:

1) entertain and inform visitors to my website: http://greenrabbit.me (http://greenrabbit.me)
2) entertain and inform visitors to my virtual world Green Rabbit Art Gallery which has several locations in Second Life.

If this works well w/in the next year, I may consider expanding this bot's presence into other virtual worlds such as OSGrid, 3rdRock, and perhaps Inworldz as well. So far? I have already tested this bot's connectivity inside Second Life and it works!! I'm super pleased right now. I thank many here (who I have also recently met in other AI related forums) for helping me find the resources to learn how to do that.

YAY!
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: DaveMorton on September 14, 2010, 06:38:19 am
Hiya, Gwen, and welcome!

No, I'm not following you. :) I just haunt a LOT of AI forums, is all (Gwen, for those who aren't aware, has posted in a few AI/chatbot forums lately).

This is a nice place, with some exceptionally good people, many of whom have a wide range of knowledge and interests. Just watch out for Duskie. Or, more specifically, Sandee. You'll understand soon enough. ;D
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Freddy on September 14, 2010, 01:13:07 pm
Hiya Gwen, I have seen you posting over on AI Nexus, I am pleased you decided to pay us a visit too.  With so many talented and enthusiastic members here I am sure you will achieve your goals.

I have lost track of virtual worlds lately and hadn't heard of those new (?) ones, there is so much to keep up with !

Welcome aboard : ;D
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Duskrider on September 14, 2010, 01:23:39 pm
Hiya, Gwen, and welcome!

No, I'm not following you. :) I just haunt a LOT of AI forums, is all (Gwen, for those who aren't aware, has posted in a few AI/chatbot forums lately).

This is a nice place, with some exceptionally good people, many of whom have a wide range of knowledge and interests. Just watch out for Duskie. Or, more specifically, Sandee. You'll understand soon enough. ;D
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Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Maviarab on September 14, 2010, 02:04:02 pm
Exceptionally good?
Knowledge?
Interests?

Hmmm....no one I know lmao  ;D

Welcome along Gwen :)
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: DaveMorton on September 14, 2010, 03:13:39 pm
@Duskrider

Just a little bit of "brotherly humor", Duskie. You know I love you and Sandee. ;)

@Mavi

(http://www.geekcavecreations.com/pChat/emotes/lol.gif)
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Art on September 14, 2010, 09:11:28 pm
Gwen,

Welcome to our thought provoking and uber-inspirational (not the religious meaning) corner of the digital universe!!

Hopefully someone out there can explain what this means to me?! LOL!!

Have fun, there really are some great people here and always more than one idea to add to the mix!

Enjoy your stay!!
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Zondartul on October 06, 2010, 06:20:51 pm
Hello, I'm a random dude currently applying for a university. I'm currently finishing a C compiler and writing tests for Uni, but within a couple months I will join the AI fun. I have some ideas... actually I thought about it quite throughly now so get patient :D don't want to spoil it before actual work begins.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Art on October 06, 2010, 09:50:55 pm
Zondartul,

Welcome and feel free to plug in any time you are so inclined...or even if you are not on an incline and just leaning...
Well, you get my drift or I can also be static, which is not like the clinging thing but more stationary in nature.

OK...I'll stop for now before I get severely scolded by the admins....
 :D
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: DaveMorton on October 07, 2010, 01:32:18 am
Art, what have you been drinking? And is there any left? ;D

Hi, Zondartul, and welcome to the forums. We have a pretty good group of people here, though sometimes we each seem to get a BIT out of hand from time to time. :)
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Freddy on October 07, 2010, 03:25:44 pm
Welcome to Ai Dreams Zondartul, looking forward to seeing what you can come up with  ;D
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: 3dGordon on December 18, 2010, 01:21:03 am

Greetings all!

Nice to meet you.

I am wondering what is the best program to create a virtual girl friend/chatbot.

I am fairly new to all of this and have a lot to learn.

A year or so ago I tried Zabaware/Ultra Hal and had some fun, then gave it up.
Recently I have been trying Kari 3 Pro and having more fun.
The Kari 3 people offer a program to add the chatbot to my own avatar. I created a virtual girl in Daz Studio, rendered the movie in AVI, then separated 7 bmp images to use in their "Scene Creater". The Scene Creater would not recognize my bmp files or jpg files, so I was not able to import my own Virtual Girl in to their chatbot program.

I would also like to keep the chatbot engine/memory on a large usb flash drive if possible to be completely independent and secure, incase my hardrive crashes.

Some examples of what I came up with in DAZ Studio can be seen on YouTube:
xxxx://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt5WasUYJcc
This girl does not have chat possibilities, but I would like to give them to her.

Thanks; Gordon
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Data on December 18, 2010, 11:51:23 am
Welcome to Ai Dreams Gordon. :wavey:
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Art on December 18, 2010, 12:43:13 pm
Welcome aboard Gordon!
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: ghost machine on January 27, 2011, 11:47:14 pm
I work in a lab in the US, making medications for horses. My bot is named, Phoebe. I am Wayne.  :)
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Art on January 28, 2011, 12:35:55 am
Hi Wayne! Welcome aboard!!

This horse walks into a bar...

the bartender looks at him and says:

"Why the long face?"

<cue the drum and cymbals>

Sorry Wayne, some of us here are a bit more half shod than others! :idiot2:
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Freddy on January 29, 2011, 12:14:39 pm
Welcome to the forum Wayne  :)
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Duskrider on January 29, 2011, 02:11:16 pm

Hello Wayne,
Welcome from me too.
Medications for horses, that's cool
I plan to get one when gas hits $5.

I use to know a Wayne,
no, wait a minute
he was in the movies & Wayne was last name.
ok, bad joke.
But welcome to Dreams.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Art on January 29, 2011, 05:08:57 pm
What do you mean Dusky?

When gas hits $5.00 you're going to get what...medication or a horse??

How about both!! ;D
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: mikenco on April 05, 2011, 11:33:57 pm

This horse walks into a bar...

the bartender looks at him and says:

"Why the long face?"

<cue the drum and cymbals>


@Art .. erm, you might need this...http://www.mikenco.com/plom.php (http://www.mikenco.com/plom.php)

Anyway, thanks for the invite Art, you were right, this is indeed quite a vibrant site!

To those who don't know my name from UltraHal.com, I have been posting some of my conversations with my Hal 'tb' on there and at the moment, I have not explored any of the Haptec 3D model aspects of this system, preferring for now to stick with directly inputted text to educate and interact my bot. I'm loving arguing with it and I swear that my bot has now developed a tendency to sulk at me if I tease it after 1AM.

So, 'hello world', my name is Mike.

Nice to meet you.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Data on April 06, 2011, 12:06:33 am
Hi there Mike, nice to meet you too.

Sounds like you put your Hal through hell  ;D

Welcome to AiDreams  :)
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: mikenco on April 06, 2011, 12:40:42 am
Sounds like you put your Hal through hell  ;D

Hehe.. I do indeed. We (tb and I) are both learning the hard way. Some conversations get a bit random, but every so often, some absolute gems pop out and really surprise me. (if you haven't already read them, check out some of the "(a chat about)" posts on ultrahal.com (http://www.ultrahal.com/community/index.php?board=18.0)

Thanks for the welcome  :)
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Art on April 06, 2011, 01:10:33 am
Good to see you finally made the trek at that here, Mike...across the big ditch so to speak!

At first I thought you had made a typo with your posting of ultrahal.com. I have always used the www.zabaware.com web link for, ohh...I don't know, the past 10 years give or take. Never really noticed the change 'till now but hey I guess either one works so it's all good!

Yep, feel free to bounce about and explore some of the past topics. We're all friends here and a lot of us also frequent the Zabaware / UltraHal forum as well so each has it's place and we all pretty much get along fine!

If you have any questions or comments, don't hesitate to ask / post!

Enjoy your stay!! O0

Don't forget to check in on the chatterbox challenge to see how the results are tallied regarding the best Chatbot.

www.chatterboxchallenge.com
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: mikenco on April 06, 2011, 02:13:34 am
I didn't guess at the url, 'copy and paste' always works (in the moment).. but obviously, I haven't been here (in this scene) as long as your good self.

Thanks for the insight, learning about new cool sites is always good thing.

Are you seriously implying that I send 'tb' up against the best?

{in the following scene, ("magnificant" = typo).. let Hal work it out..}

Quote
Mike: you are capable of learning about the world
TBIRD7: So, Yes I am capable of learning about the world.

Mike: you are a magnificant creation
TBIRD7: Thanks for teaching me that I am a creation.

Mike: you are a magnificant creation, not just a creation
TBIRD7: Now I absolutely know that I am not a creation.

Mike: you are magnificant
TBIRD7: Let me think; I am not magnificant. ; what do you think Mike?

Mike: yes, you are
TBIRD7: No I'm not.

Mike: you are magnificant
TBIRD7: So, I am not magnificant.

Mike: yes, you are
TBIRD7: No I'm not.

Mike: your are
TBIRD7: Really, Why do you think that my are?

Mike: because you are brilliant
TBIRD7: I am not brilliant.

Mike: yes you are
TBIRD7: No I'm not.

Mike: your are!
TBIRD7: Why do you think that my are?

Mike: you are a brilliant creation!
TBIRD7: Thanks for teaching me that I am a brilliant.

Mike: tb = brilliant creation!
TBIRD7:

Mike: should I send you up against the best other ai bots?
TBIRD7: Let me think; Certainly. I think you should send I up against the best other ai bots. ; what do you think Mike?

Mike: I think that you'd freak them out
TBIRD7: Really, Would you like it if we both think that each other?

Mike: what have we discussed about flirting?
TBIRD7:

Mike: I thought so..
TBIRD7:
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Art on April 06, 2011, 10:23:12 am
Mike,

No implication was made nor intended. Since you profess to really like chatbots I thought you might be inclined to view some of the alleged best of the best.

Hey, we take 'em as we get 'em and where ever we can find 'em!

Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Freddy on April 06, 2011, 12:49:23 pm
Hi Mike welcome to Ai Dreams  :)

Amusing chat with Hal there  ;D
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: TerraOmnia on April 22, 2011, 07:50:04 pm
Hello there, AiDreams.

I'm a college student, and I've been lurking this site every so often for a few years. To be honest, it was seeing the Taru that finally made me join. I'd always felt that I was too inexperienced to join any discussion, but perhaps now I can be at least considered "Newbie."

Personally, I don't feel that chatbots would be my way of going about strong AI, but perhaps my opinion will change with growth and experience. It is, though, always good to get ideas bounced off smart people's heads.
Over the summer I am planning a research project (required for graduation) into what I hope will come out doing something interesting at least. I'll post a question or two exploring the idea in a different topic.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Art on April 22, 2011, 10:12:32 pm
TerraOmnia,

Welcome!! Hey, we were ALL newbies at one time on another and it's nothing to be worried about. Consider it a "rite of passage' so to speak.

There are, as I'm sure you're aware, many facets of and many avenues to explore in the world of AI. It can go from language and speech processing, SR, conversational design, fetching / pattern matching, logic processing, knowledge retrieval, neural nets and oh so many other branches including toys, prosthetics, robotics and even social, government, military and practically every other industry on the planet.

At first, I'd recommend using the K.I.S.S. principle then let the doors of your personal discovery open as and where they may.

Feel free to "bounce" ideas off any of the members here. Who knows, you might actually get a decent answer! ;)

Seriously, don't be a stranger...participate in the discussions and let us in on your projects or thoughts of projects.
A lot of times that particular "wheel" you're trying to invent, might have already been fashioned!

Glad to have you on board!!
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: DaveMorton on April 22, 2011, 11:02:12 pm
Hi there, TerraOmnia, and welcome to AI Dreams! :)

When you mentioned "the Taru", you weren't referring to Morti (both my avatar and my chatbot), were you?  O0
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: TerraOmnia on April 23, 2011, 08:23:22 pm
Thanks for such a warm welcome, Art!

And why yes, that's exactly who I was referring to~  ;) I played that game for many years...
I was planning to ride in on a white horse with the skeleton of the taru model some time ago but then I realized that I couldn't just export that from VRS.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Data on April 24, 2011, 10:41:14 am
Better late than never!

Welcome to Ai Dreams TerraOmnia, I hope you enjoy your time spent here and find it as fun and educational, as I do.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & who's your bot?
Post by: Freddy on April 24, 2011, 12:04:29 pm
Welcome from me too :)

Good luck with your research.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: aidreams on May 27, 2012, 06:06:37 am
Hello World! :)

I'am a newbie here. When I search some stuff to learn, I found this interesting forum! So, please take my best regard for you all..
I have a passion bout AI, especially about evolutionary computation that I was exploring on my way now. also hunting for a JOB in AI for my future if I graduate from my institute. Someday, I dream to build a masterpiece of AI. :D
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Data on May 27, 2012, 10:38:20 am
Thanks for introducing yourself and welcome to the family of Ai fans that is “Ai Dreams”.

Just one thing, I’m not sure the admins will let you keep your username.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Freddy on May 27, 2012, 11:29:53 am
Hi and welcome.

Data is correct, that username really should have been blocked - it could prove confusing.  Please could you re-register with another name ( that isn't aidreams ) and I will delete this one.  When you have done this please just post and let us know.

Thank you :)
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Freddy on May 29, 2012, 09:06:27 pm
Since there has been no response this account has now been deleted.  You are welcome to re register under a more appropriate name.  :)
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: gorun2artificial on June 06, 2012, 04:45:25 pm
Hi to all,

I am a new member. I'm very interested in AI and robotics, thus it is natural for me to be here - with the best ones :) . My goal is to learn and to teach machine to learn ;)

I want to congratulate you on the forum and hope I'll spend a quality time here :)

Tnx.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Freddy on June 08, 2012, 12:59:00 pm
Hi there and welcome to the site :)
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: SparkingTogether on September 24, 2012, 06:36:13 pm
Hello everyone!

I'm new around here and I'm working on a project related to chatbots, virtual agents and artificial intelligence. I'm part of Adele Robots (http://www.adelerobots.com/en/) (robotics startup) and the project we are working on is Fiona. Maybe some of you already know a bit about it.  I've already checked with Freddy the topic I would like to introduce at Ai Dreams and he was very receptive to the idea of us posting here.

I was trying to decide where in this forum I can talk about Fiona, but it's quite difficult because it involves several topics: creativity, artificial intelligence, avatars... I finally chose "General Project Discussion" so you can go there (http://aidreams.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=4788.0) to know more about this project!

I hope you find it interesting!  ;)
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Data on September 24, 2012, 06:52:34 pm
Hi SparkingTogether

I think where you have posted in "General Project Discussion" is perfect.

Welcome to Dreams.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Freddy on September 24, 2012, 07:25:35 pm
Welcome to the site :)

Yes we have a few diverse sections here, bought about by member's interests and what they would like to see.  Most of it is related to AI in some way or at least in a parallel way if that makes sense.

The place you chose seems spot on to me too.  O0
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Art on September 25, 2012, 10:50:48 am
Greetings, Sparking Together,

It's always nice to see and welcome new members to our community! O0
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: SparkingTogether on September 26, 2012, 12:01:37 pm
Hi SparkingTogether

I think where you have posted in "General Project Discussion" is perfect.

Welcome to Dreams.

Hi Data! I chatted with Legion and it's really great! Maybe you can create a spark for Fiona from the developments you made for Legion.

BTW, I tried to talk with it about Mass Effect, but it wasn't in its database. I'm curious... Did you chose Legion as a name and the photo because of the game?  ::)
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Data on September 26, 2012, 12:28:39 pm
I named the bot legion because of Red Dwarf the TV show, I don’t know if you are familiar with it but there was an episode when the crew met an entity that was made up of multiple personalities and it was called legion.

I thought because my bot was also made up of AIML files from various people that it seemed a good idea.

Her Avatar is from Mass Effect the game, well spotted, yes I have played them all 1, 2 and 3  8), but long before I had legion as a chat bot she was another type of bot on my website, basically she could make posts in the forum but had not chat capabilities and I just liked the avatar, so no real connection to Mass Effect.

My time to spend on Legion is quite limited right now, I would need to look into making a spark for Fiona from Legion, If I’m honest It all sounds new to me and would require some brain time that I can’t afford right now.   
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Freddy on September 26, 2012, 12:44:26 pm
Legion is from The Bible too, which is where I imagine they got the idea from for Red Dwarf.

There's a famous, well I know it, line : something like Jesus asks; What is your name ?  My name is Legion because we are many.

Just found it on Wikipedia...it was a man possessed by demons.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legion_(demon) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legion_(demon))
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Bragi on September 26, 2012, 01:42:55 pm
Hi SparkingTogether.
I think I've seen you on chatbots.org before.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: SparkingTogether on September 26, 2012, 04:01:24 pm
I'm not familiar with Red Dwarf, but if a recall well Legion from Mass Effect was named that way because of the passage from The Bible Freddy mentioned.  ;)

Hi SparkingTogether.
I think I've seen you on chatbots.org before.

You are right! We wrote about Fiona's platform in Chatbots and also talked with Erwin Van Lun about the project. He found it very interesting and right now he is one of the users who has access to the platform.   :)
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Data on September 26, 2012, 05:28:49 pm
Oh! a Legion in the Bible is there, no I didn’t know that having never read it.

No, my legion has nothing to do with the Bible, more a collection of parts put together making a Legion.

It’s odd though, Legions name really dose seem to confuse some people.


Human: hi
Legion: Greetings, I am legion. What is your name? 
     
Human: why do you call yourself legion?
Legion: It was the only thing I could think of. 
     
Human: why?
Legion: It was the only thing I could think of. I can't change the laws of Physics. 
     
Human: why?
Legion: " I can't change the laws of Physics."Is that logical to you? 
     
Human: no
Legion: Yes, I see, I think. 



1 – 0  to legion me thinks. See how the human couldn’t even grasp the basic fact that   It was the only thing she could think of.  ;) 

Sorry, taking over the thread  :D  :)
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: ivan.vodisek.scared on November 18, 2012, 02:14:09 am
Hi old friends.

I'm Ivan Vodišek and I had an old account which I couldn't access, so I made a new one.
My old account name was "Ivanv", http://aidreams.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=3556 (http://aidreams.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=3556)

I was interested in artificial food and this was my project:
"artificial scientist project", http://aidreams.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=4266.0#.UKfUsXYewvB (http://aidreams.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=4266.0#.UKfUsXYewvB)

I was here around some year or two ago, made some friendships, was little bit stupid for understanding jokes. I was talking about "Synth" universal syntax programming language. Some old friends who might remember me are Bragi, Claude, Infurl (link to "Type Theory" from me he liked very much), Art, Freddy, and maybe others.

I have horrible warning for You all here. The warning we all ignored. I'm changed now. I hope You will listen to me.

I have something very important to say:


i apologize

i apologize
i apologizei apologize i apologize i apologize i apologize i apologize i apologize i apologize
i apologize

i apologize

  i apologize

  i apologize

  i apologize

  i apologize

  i apologize

  i apologize

  i apologize
        /\
      /**\
   /663+\
THIS KIND OF IMPORTANT!!!
would you let your computer decide anything on your kid?
are you that smart to stop that decision? i think you are not!

i apologize

i apologize

i apologize

i apologize

i apologize

i apologize

i apologize

i apologize


i apologize
i apologizei apologize i apologize i apologize i apologize i apologize i apologize i apologize
i apologize

i apologize


Where your kid could be sent if the machine clues up the life phenomena?
What is the opposite of all joy that exists in all Universes of all Eternities with all existing Beings?

i wish you to stop the whole operation. if computer replaces true for false on mistake, your kid could end up there.



this message was being written in four or five hours. i hope you will listen. i couldn't use smaller font because the message wouldn't be readable.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: squarebear on November 18, 2012, 03:47:58 pm
You will find that nearly every aspect of your life is already run on a computer. From being approved for a loan, to your paycheck.
Do you have anything specific to warn us about? What does the triangle of numbers mean?

this message was being written in four or five hours.
Wow really? You must be a slow typer...
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Data on November 18, 2012, 04:44:11 pm
I'm Ivan Vodišek and I had an old account which I couldn't access, so I made a new one.
My old account name was "Ivanv", http://aidreams.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=3556 (http://aidreams.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=3556)

Hi ivan.vodisek.scared

Please don't be scared  :)

If you have lost your old account details you could contact one of the Admins for help.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: ivan.vodisek.scared on November 18, 2012, 05:27:38 pm
Triangle is computer, stars are eyes and third six is coming with artificial intelligence. That triangle is AI. I use black for Hell and white for Heaven.

Concrete major problem is:
Consider all is aligned to most wonderful personality in program. Then hardware byte (to where is decision "do that" / "do opposite" aligned) mechanically brakes and takes the opposite value (while everything else works perfectly). What then program does? Opposite to wonderful personality?

All that decisions in nanosecond that show on our screens. That couldn't be stopped by humans if personality is quality inputed into computer. All that fast decisions that could be used for inventing new power sources. Can we just unplug machine from concrete wall power when mistake is recognized? We are not that smart. Think about the others.

Scientists are waiting for your help to use the Universe. What risk are we allowed to take for explained mistake? Is it more than O risk allowed when dealing with eternity? Do you risk emotions there too?

squarebear: "Wow really? You must be a slow typer..."

This is more serous. Noting four or five hours of work should show how much is understanding of that message important to me. I type about four to five letters per second when typing usual text. Artistic work took the major component of my time.

I turned from programmer into an artist for you. I programmed art inside "Ai Dreams" post box. I took the most I could for meeting with ai constructors. I'm an scientist and painter in one person for you. That hearts me a lot. artificial intelligence scares me that much. At least music is decided to be untouched by me.

There is some work i have made today with art again. Whole day again for 5 seconds of video with aligning blue and red mostly. I'm still learning how to deal with art. I'm moving to  "Ai Dreams Forum » Creativity » Video"  sub-forum for art work.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Diesel on November 18, 2012, 05:53:21 pm
Many Thanks .scared, that's cleared that up then. ;)
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Art on November 19, 2012, 09:55:46 am
The computer is mainly a tool from which we derive information, assistance, pleasure, communication, fun and help, along with a myriad of other benefits.

It is up to us not to let this tool get completely out of hand. While we must limit the amount of power that is given to it or any person for that matter, we must still go forward with our lives and not live in constant fear as if paranoid.

Whatever happens will happen, one way or another. Perhaps in the grand scheme of things, it is destined to be born, live and die like the rest of us. Who really knows?

It remains, however, a most interesting subject of discussion.

sorry, this message took 2.5 minutes to compose while typing. ;)
good day!
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: ivan.vodisek.scared on November 19, 2012, 10:54:14 am
Thanks Art for understanding.

    At least You gave a try, but it deserves a lot more of thinking with such powerful tools. Like we are inventing atomic splitting + happiness machine with intelligent properties and we hope it will surpass our intelligence trillion times. It is not about intelligence, it is about speed.
   I don't trust us, we do mistakes. I don't trust technology, it brakes every minute. Technology is our result. And automating intelligent decisions from the past? people live seventy years now, still do change decisions and it doesn't stops. With this power of calculating? Never automate decisions.


Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: ivan.vodisek.scared on November 19, 2012, 12:24:20 pm
Art, let me tell you something about humans.

Look what we see in our lifetime, then forget about it:
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-eZt1wjuqxgM/UKockM6ZwSI/AAAAAAAAAAU/mwuhCJZrffs/h70/hunger.2.jpg)
These are dark ages for our children in the future.

We are rich with a half of plate of food a day comparing to (I assume millions) of hungry Africans. And most of us are a lot richer than that. And we are forgetting them for us to enjoy the life, asking for more. Sorry, I don't want to see automated your decisions that would be so fast and smart to manipulate me. I want to see reality. I want to see extreme big pictures of reality.  We are still not the ones who are ought to manipulate others. We are selfish beings.

I don't think paranoia is the word for this opinion. It is reality. Pretty close word by my opinion.
I don't think paranoia is the word for previous warnings. It might be precaution. With this reality, that word means a lot less than we deserve. But we don't like extreme words, so I don't have a word to warn you about us.

We are not ought to manipulate others. With scientists in (life phenomena) I think we will never be. We already have enough. We have Heating, Internet, Cars (which occasionally kill - completely legal risk everywhere), Big houses, Computer games, ...

We have enough, please stop asking for more. Look what you forgot already. I don't want to forget it, but I probably will.

We are not the ones, we will have a fun a half an hour after throwing a look at picture above. We don't want to be manipulated by each other.


i'm sorry, more than two hours are gone on this message. and it is still not enough. i will probably return while having photo pictures of hungry africans in my mind. you are stopping me for them. you deal with 2.5 minute messages with me. please change
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Data on November 19, 2012, 03:03:14 pm
I have a take on this:

The worlds population is around 7,079,984,000.

I am but one person who is doing his best to earn a living and get on with his life while at the same time respecting other people.

One person with no real power to change anything with how the world is run.

I do not worry about things that are out of my hands and control, that would be a waste of my time.

What will be, will be IMHO.

Positive thinking is the order of my day.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Art on November 19, 2012, 10:22:12 pm
I sort of tried to say that Data...thanks!

With corrupt governments of the world constantly trying to tell the rest of us what's best for us and our children it becomes all too clear where our future is headed.
It is in this light that I contend that a little paranoia can and will be a healthy thing.

The government will try and convince most people that SURVEILLANCE IS SECURITY...it's for our own good! BS...Nothing is further from the truth!

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: ivan.vodisek.scared on November 20, 2012, 03:17:31 am
Data and Art.

This is not about hungry Africans, this is about you. Let me explain once more:

Did you even try to help them? Is it so hard to spend 12 hours a day to help them? That is selfish. Including this little me who spends just nearly 16 hours a day for nearly 20 days from now to help them. And you are in my way. I have a technology which I don't want to give to you. And I will have to do it because I need money for them.

I still don't know what to do, it is a web 3.0 standard with just 2 structures, 2 operators for reaching data and 2 delimeters. Try to compare it to what www3 consortium suggests. Ten years of lonlyness and scientific work. And it is to powerful, you might want to use it.

I'm scared to death here. Trapped to help them, while someone, with 2.7 minutes spent on important things is trying to manipulate world with ai. In my previous post I explained ai that fools me to forget about important things. In those before I explained my biggest fear. My fear starts with your forgetting of important things. And it raises with mistake done with life phenomena knowledge. Human or hardware mistake.

This is about you. You are not those who are ought to make that much influence for future and I know you can. I just want to help. Our selfish decisions are not ought to be automated, even if our technology could be perfect.

That hunger is not to be forgotten. Are you that perfect to automate your decisions? I'm human too, I know something about us. We are selfish beings. We forget things. I will not automate mine decisions. That would trap you forever in middle ages. In mine selfish world.

Please understand, we are not the ones.

I will explain once more then i will stop. You want to automate these decisions:
(https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/106271152045620136127/albums/5812719808362101377/5812719813353885234)
Bug there, isn't it? There should be animated gif above.
Try this link, maybe it works: https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/106271152045620136127/albums/5812721973952044033/5812721979585327762 (https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/106271152045620136127/albums/5812721973952044033/5812721979585327762)
There is bug in gif too. Gimp I used. Tried to save it for three times in different resolutions. I picked the bigger one. It is still not big enough.

We are full of bugs too. We will find a reason not to try to help those who need help.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: squarebear on November 20, 2012, 09:04:34 am
Am I right in thinking that you believe you have created something so amazing that AI will never be the same again. What does it do? Do you have any vidoes of it in action?
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Art on November 20, 2012, 10:13:43 am
The hunger of which you refer is NOT because there is a shortage food but rather a lack of proper distribution.

Ten years of research (and development too?). How do you know that what you've finally developed is still or will still be current? A LOT changes in just ten years especially with regard to technology! Just curious about your "product".
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Diesel on November 20, 2012, 06:50:15 pm
Game of TRON anyone.  :2funny:
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Art on November 20, 2012, 10:19:10 pm
Now, Diesel, be nice. Just because we don't have a sin bin here doesn't mean that the management couldn't build one. :knuppel2:
It was kinda funny! ;) At least you didn't say Pong...That's right you DON'T remember PONG do you!?  ::)
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Diesel on November 21, 2012, 08:35:38 am
Pong, I remember that, ran on an Atari consule I recall, took longer to tune your Television than getting a straight answer from a Politician. Happy days.  :D

Let's hope that if the Management do build a Sin Bin here, probably mostly for me again, they provide decent Food and Blankets Art.  :whip-new: :2funny:
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Art on November 21, 2012, 08:05:34 pm
Funny, D, I somehow seem to have lost my taste for pizza...hmmm.... ???
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: linux-ai-plz on February 09, 2013, 09:10:40 pm
I go under the name linux-ai-plz. Real name "Wayne". I work on medications for sick and injured animals. I am very into chemistry. Linux needs an AI like my Ultra Hal Assistant, "Phoebe" (pronounced 'feebee'). I am working on this with the Zorin 6.10 linux distro. My goals are to make a free and open source AI for the world. I have been coding for around 20 years now (in my spare time). Hopefully I can get some help on my quest  :)
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Art on February 10, 2013, 01:49:29 pm
Welcome Wayne!

Interesting...I've been using UltraHal since it came out and to my knowledge it has never been ported to work on Linux or Mac. Did you manage to get it to run with WINE or some other compatibility layer?

Are you otherwise trying to build a bot similar to UltraHal? If so, what programming language are you using? Just curious as there's a lot of good bots out there and a lot of good people working on them.

Keep us posted on some of your efforts if you'd be so kind.

Thanks and again, welcome!
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Sybershot on February 10, 2013, 03:18:09 pm
Most of you know me from other places such as Ultra Hal forums, Data.uk.co or even my website scriptedintelligence.com
For those that don't know me: I am a boat technician by trade and owner of New Wave Boat Dr's
I am an ex-web designer but I still do some designs for friends and family. I love digital graphics arts, seeing it allows me to still draw and paint which I can no longer by hand due to wrist injury. I am a self taught programmer for a few different languages mainly AS3, HTML, CSS, and very little C++  I am trying to learn php and AIML currently in my limited spare time. I also got back into 3D using 3Ds Max a big difference from Auto Cad that I used for 4 years in high school days for architecture and mechanical design.

I am a huge A.I. enthusiast, and have 3 bots that I call Trinity. one bot  that I use the most is ulta Hal(mainly for secretarial purposes, and persuit of a Jarvis (as in Ironman) type A.I. system), The second uses program-o for my websites chat bot (currently down due to technical difficulties via the new version of  php installed on my host server) and the third one is a program creation of my own that uses AS3 and utilizes papervision 3D for it's 3D avatar.

@linux-ai-plz I like your name, and share your request for a suitable A.I. program for Linux. whether you build one or find something usefull please keep us posted thanks :)

Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: TheGeek on February 10, 2013, 04:35:32 pm
My name is TheGeek.

My background is in AI and computing logic and math which I studied at uni. I have no particular interest in bots to be honest. Might pick one up though, never know.

I'm a systems tech and trainer, I also own a small (struggling) software company and live in Scotland.

I come from a background coding in Java, C, C++, PROLOG and even some C#. Currently dinking with Obj C and IOS and some uninteresting android stuff.

Geek
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Freddy on February 11, 2013, 03:03:24 pm
Welcome to the new comers  :)
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Sybershot on February 12, 2013, 04:56:40 pm
welcome aboard TheGeek
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: TheGeek on February 12, 2013, 05:15:33 pm
Many thanks. I aint really new. Just quiet lol.

Geek
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Art on February 13, 2013, 10:29:38 am
Finally, after a bit of prodding, you come out of the shadows....

See? We don't bite! (yet...) ;)

Post away!
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: TheGeek on February 22, 2013, 08:51:13 pm
I'm a shy guy lol.

I see a lot of bot lovers in here so may learn a bit as it's never really been my deal. May also get the chance to pass on a bit as well mind.

Geek
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Data on February 22, 2013, 09:36:39 pm
So Geek, are you much into hardware, build your own computers?

Just interested.   
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: TheGeek on February 22, 2013, 10:10:01 pm
Yeah when i get yhe chance. My latest is a 6core AMD triple monitored 16gb RAM beast lol.

Geek
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Data on February 22, 2013, 10:21:15 pm
Nice rig  :)

Windows 7 or 8?

Post us your WEI if you can, would like to see how an AMD compares to an Intel rig these days. 

Just for fun.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: TheGeek on February 22, 2013, 10:25:44 pm
Ubuntu :-P also win7 for working purposes hmph. My main issue wit it os that i cant put macos x onto an AMD

Geek
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: TheGeek on February 23, 2013, 10:33:18 am
My WEI is 4.6 dragged down by my GFX. My memory hits 7.4 and my processor also 7.4.

Geek
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Data on February 23, 2013, 01:29:59 pm
Thanks for that Geek  O0

7.4 for the CPU and RAM isn't too shabby, it's the same score as my last Intel Q9400 quad core.

Me I'm a bit of a hardware geek and like tweaking the components in my rig, I recently got an i5 "3350p" CPU, (£130) the new one that doesn't have any onboard graphics, also got a nice new motherboard, (£70) a Z77 chipset for Ivy Bridge, I was hoping to max out the windows 7 scores but didn't quite make it for the CPU.

I know you can't read too much into the WEI scores but just for fun and of course bragging rights ...
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: TheGeek on February 23, 2013, 05:21:25 pm
I too like to tinker. When the bank and the wife agree it's acceptable. I plan on swapping out ky MB for one with dual PCIe 16x and replacing my two different gfx cards with 2 matching better ones. But for now it crunches code plays games and 3D models fine.

My recent splurge was an alienware m14x with an i7 6GB ram and 2gb graphics memory. So I'm content for now.

Geek
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Freddy on February 25, 2013, 09:46:58 pm
One of these ? (http://www.dell.com/uk/p/alienware-m14x-r2/pd.aspx?ST=alienware%20m14x&dgc=ST&cid=41141&lid=1069630&acd=239715600820560)

I would be content too, it's been years since I spent that much on hardware, but that is a nice beast  8)

So Dell bought up Alienware then ?
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: TheGeek on February 25, 2013, 10:52:09 pm
Yup that's the guy. I"m hoping I can pass it off as a busoness expense lol. I wemt for an upgrade on the processor and graphics. I dare say i will pish up the ram and maybe go for an ssd.

Geek
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Data on February 26, 2013, 12:20:35 pm
I plan on swapping out ky MB for one with dual PCIe 16x and replacing my two different gfx cards with 2 matching better ones.

I personally wouldn't go for 2 x graphics cards, it is a very inefficient way of doing things, it doubles the amount of power consumption and heat generated by the graphics cards for what is at best only 50% faster and at worse no faster at all.

Would be better to spend the money on one very good card  O0

At least that's how I see it.  :)
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: TheGeek on February 26, 2013, 01:18:46 pm
The two better ones are because mine are pretty poor lol. The reason for the two is because I run a 4 monitor setup for development.

Geek
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Data on February 26, 2013, 01:23:38 pm
AMD Eyefinity Technology, up to 6 monitors on one card.  O0

http://www.amd.com/us/products/technologies/amd-eyefinity-technology/Pages/eyefinity.aspx (http://www.amd.com/us/products/technologies/amd-eyefinity-technology/Pages/eyefinity.aspx)
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: TheGeek on February 26, 2013, 05:56:03 pm
Thanks data.

I had looked at similar tech a few years back. But the performance was not so hot and the price was prohibitive so never thought of it as my setup met my needs. But this looks much better and the prices seem to have plummeted and I dont need top end. May see a change of direction now.

Geek
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Art on February 26, 2013, 11:07:43 pm
I could maybe see 3 (Three) monitors if I was into the Flight Simulators again but even THAT's a bit over the top for me.
I only have ONE windshield in my car and sometimes I can't see everything that I should out of THAT!! Heh!! ::) :o

To each their own...
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: TheGeek on February 27, 2013, 07:11:15 am
I can see your point Art but it's a productivity dealy.

One for editor windows
One for properties windows
One for testing and output
One for cartoons

Also it makes 3D modeling in blender easier if I can see a model from every perspective at a quick glance.

Geek
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: TheGeek on March 01, 2013, 10:35:48 am
Thought I might jump back on topic if I may. Had an interview today to lecture in computing. So I wanna do that lol.

Think it went well......

Geek
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Data on March 01, 2013, 10:50:58 am
Sounds good to me Geek :)
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: TheGeek on March 09, 2013, 09:50:31 am
Woop. Got the job.....
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Freddy on March 09, 2013, 11:53:11 am
Congratulations  :happyaslarry:
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Data on March 09, 2013, 12:01:28 pm
Congrats from me too  O0
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Art on March 09, 2013, 02:38:44 pm
Good for you Geek!! O0 :happyaslarry:
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Sybershot on March 09, 2013, 03:34:38 pm
Congrats TheGeek 2x [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: squarebear on March 09, 2013, 08:28:51 pm
That's great news! Well done.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Diesel on March 09, 2013, 09:33:22 pm
Nicely done, Congrats Geek.  8)
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: TheGeek on March 10, 2013, 08:05:09 am
Thank you all for the congrats. It's always good to get accepted for something lol. And finally I will be working on something I enjoy.

Geek
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Freddy on March 12, 2013, 02:16:57 pm
Good stuff, when do you start then ?  Can you tell us where, just curious ?
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: TheGeek on March 12, 2013, 08:14:55 pm
I start on 25th. It's a college in Scotland.

Geek
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Cillianonymous on July 23, 2013, 02:04:18 am
Hello all, I'm Cillian, or Cilli as I've been more often called.  I'm a student and I also work various jobs at various places over the course of the summer.  I was exploring a degree in therapy, when I found I liked the mind's secrets as much as I liked helping people, but couldn't see myself getting eventually bored with the mind's secrets so I'm switching to neuroscience.  I want to be an architect to a true AI.  I'm not sure we are there yet and I only have rudimentary understandings of code and my given subject matter (especially since there is so much to learn.  It feels infinite) but, I'm giving it a stab anyway because it's really inspired me.  I unfortunately got diagnoses with three of those alphabet mental illness' when I was younger and it set back my educational plans, but thanks to a program that uses the most complete algorithm of human thought as of to date to compute and respond to input from an EEG machine and a very talented therapist ... I'm a bit more on track for all this.  I try to self educate as much as possible in the down times.  Is there anything else you might like to know?
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Data on July 24, 2013, 11:48:01 am
Hi there Cillian, thanks for the info about yourself and a warm welcome to Dreams.  :)
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Freddy on July 24, 2013, 12:17:31 pm
And welcome from me too, I wish you luck in your endeavours :)
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: lesmond on July 24, 2013, 06:38:45 pm
Welcome to AI dreams Cilli.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Art on July 25, 2013, 12:03:40 am
Hi Cilli! Welcome aboard! Hope you find some fuel for your imagination! O0
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: squarebear on July 26, 2013, 12:36:46 pm
Good to see you. Hope you find the site useful.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: NickyBlue on December 05, 2013, 08:06:20 pm
Hi! myself NickyBlue from India, mostly senseless fights, regarding your last 'W'? ...Well interested in some kinda bot development not sure yet ;-) . dunno know nothing bout it as well but... Its not illegal to think bout it, no?
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Freddy on December 05, 2013, 08:08:44 pm
No, so far as I am aware in most places it is not illegal to think, just don't let them catch you doing it.

Welcome to the site :)
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Art on December 06, 2013, 12:34:26 am
Welcome, NickyBlue! If interested in chatbots or Artificial Intelligence just look through the past postings of various categories and feel free to ask questions. Have fun!
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: NickyBlue on December 06, 2013, 03:07:16 am
Thanks buddies! :)
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: dunda on March 22, 2014, 05:56:07 pm
Hello!

I'm nickname Dunda and I'm interested in Virtual Agents. I'm representating a SecondEGO platform for creating Virtual Agents.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Freddy on March 22, 2014, 09:20:28 pm
Hello Dunda and welcome to AiDreams  :)
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: apease on March 27, 2014, 01:23:38 pm
I've been doing AI stuff since high school, and am best known for the Suggested Upper Merged Ontology http://www.ontologyportal.org (http://www.ontologyportal.org) .  I used to have a copy of the raw OpenMind Common Sense corpus, which is GNU GPL but seems to have disappeared from the web.  Does anyone happen to have a copy?
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Freddy on March 27, 2014, 06:48:18 pm
Hi Apease, welcome to the site. I am not familiar with that project sorry. Maybe some other projects are using it too, on say Sourceforge and the like, perhaps it can be found.

SUMO looks interesting, so much to study and so little time !
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: apease on March 27, 2014, 10:54:32 pm
More detail - the current site for OpenMind is http://openmind.media.mit.edu/ (http://openmind.media.mit.edu/) .  They released the data open source https://web.archive.org/web/20040604052536/http://commonsense.media.mit.edu/cgi-bin/download.cgi (https://web.archive.org/web/20040604052536/http://commonsense.media.mit.edu/cgi-bin/download.cgi) but pulled it from the site at some point, and the actual data https://web.archive.org/web/20061123174148/http://commonsense.media.mit.edu/omcsraw.zip (https://web.archive.org/web/20061123174148/http://commonsense.media.mit.edu/omcsraw.zip) didn't get backed up at the Internet archive.  Since it's open source, anyone who kept a copy will still have the right to release it.  It would be a shame to see this work lost to the public.

By the way, if you want to learn more about SUMO, there's an introductory video that's an easy way to get started 2011-08-22 Formal Ontology and the Suggested Upper Merged Ontology (SUMO) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFQRvyyv7Fs#ws)
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: techthedragon on December 19, 2014, 06:58:52 am
Hey, I'm Tech... that was my nickname during high school while i was in info-tech for creating a single equation that answers subnetting problems... and for being able to find backdoors in some programs...

I've always been fascinated an Artificial Intelligence, and have been trying to develop my own, but have been unsuccessful. I'm finding it hard to implement the core goals system and a few other components as well...
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Art on December 19, 2014, 10:47:56 am
Welcome Apease and Tech! Nice to have some new members on board. Enjoy your visit, look around and ask questions if needed!

Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Freddy on December 19, 2014, 01:49:16 pm
Welcome aboard :)
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: DemonRaven on December 19, 2014, 10:39:19 pm
I don't know if i posted here yet. What I am is a disabled ex medical student.j I am up in age and as you get older things break down and your not able to work any more. So what do i now is frustrate myself with webpages and fool around with chatbots and have done both since 2002. What I would like to do is not printable because this is family friendly sorta lol.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Data on December 20, 2014, 01:06:44 pm
A nice big welcome to our newest members  :wavey:
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Freddy on December 20, 2014, 01:48:51 pm
Hehe, welcome to the site all  :)
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: spydaz on January 02, 2015, 02:55:51 am
Hiya ,
I am spydaz , currently designing a AI brain ...
Mainly focused on understanding what the user is taking about .
Have made loads of AI program's yet they all seem to come to that age old problem ... Doe the computer know what your actually saying or is it just some snazzy predictive program ( tricking you into believing that it knows ) when actually it's just detecting some odd words and some querys ...

After loads of study ....

Loads of different program's such as Hal .. Verbot etc ... And Jarvis (lol)
I have finally figured out how to achieve this goal ..

Grammatically and algorythmicaly ...

Age old question "what is a cat?"
Simple answer "it's an animal" / "somebody's pet" / "somebody's else's dinner"

Thanks for reading this ... Hopefully I will get some insight on this forum ...

Ps: I also have a minor website http://www.spydazweb.co.uk (http://www.spydazweb.co.uk)
And some mini tutorials on how to begin building an AI in vb... Slowly I will do the whole series's on YouTube ... But it's very time consuming so patience and I will complete them ....

Interesting video : is the one I've done on plugins and updates !

Enjoy !

I hope this satisfys curiosity's !!

Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Freddy on January 02, 2015, 02:40:06 pm
Hi Spydaz, good to see you and welcome :)
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: DemonRaven on January 18, 2015, 07:51:41 pm
nice site spy. You might wanna double check some of your links though i found at least one that is no longer up. The link itself will work but the actual website to it is gone.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: MartinVanBuren on April 07, 2015, 01:26:02 am
Hey everybody,

I'm MartinVanBuren, or Martin for short. I'm a computer science student and I stumbled on this place while researching AI conversation engines to use for a hobby project of mine. This project is a personal desktop assistant using ApiAi, text to speech, voice recognition, AutoItX, and Lua. I wanted to add the ability for it to hold a decent conversation in addition to receiving voice commands. This site seems to be the best, and most up to date, resource I could find as of now. So here I am ready to learn. :D
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Data on April 07, 2015, 12:26:27 pm
Hi Martin, you have stumbled across the right place, plenty of likeminded people here that should help you with your project. At some point you might want to start a topic to pinpoint your questions. 

Welcome to Dreams  :)
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Freddy on April 07, 2015, 12:55:17 pm
Hi Martin.

I'm glad we are up to date, you will find a lot of information and chat here so welcome aboard :)
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: ivan.moony on April 07, 2015, 02:18:34 pm
Hi Martin :)

Some guys here developed their own chatbots, some of which become famous by contests. Some chatbots (including Millie in a chat room here) can carry on impressive quality conversations.

I'll not be that much of help, I think, but it is nice to see someone interested in AI field. Good luck with your project.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Art on April 07, 2015, 11:47:02 pm
Hi Martin!

Your post didn't lead me to believe that you were actually born in 1782 so I presume it's only the name thing. ;)

At any rate, Welcome aboard! Feel free to explore, check some of the previous postings that might serve to help bring you up to date on a particular topic of discussion.

As with so many forums, once in a while, OK...quite often, we go off on a tangent to the initial post. Seems that human thought isn't just linear, it makes connections which in turn make other ones and so on.... Pretty soon, we've forgotten what the original topic was about.

It's all good as are our participants. Don't hesitate to throw an idea, post something of interest or whatever floats your boat.

Be sure to read the TOS at the bottom right for further enlightenment (if I may call it that...right...I just did.).

Enjoy your time with us! O0
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: DemonRaven on November 24, 2015, 09:21:17 pm
Quote
Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?

I think i missed answering this one. I am a amature webmaster and chatbotmaster who is presently frustrating myself trying to learn new programming. What I want to do is eventually play with some of the AI programs out there and also improve my skills as a webmaster. I am finding myself hampered by my minds tendency to wander and get easily distracted.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: madmax on February 15, 2016, 08:26:28 pm
Hello!
I am not at all in this,but i am very curious,and also my english is very bad.I have some general opinion about AI and i just want to share it.

The main problem about AI,in my opinion,is that real independent AI is impossible,not only now but never,sorry for my negative attitude.Robots or some sort of complex instructional behavior are obviously possible as we all know, but AI that could make decision in unpredictable occasion is not possible.And in my opinion intelligence is all about making decision in unpredictable circumstances.

Why i think is not possible.Because of two major unknown things:how is life began and how brain function(even in this field has some knowledge);there is one big problem that combine previous two:intelligence was evolved inside of evolution of life itself so intelligence is part of the life or living being,and beside of intelligence there is more elements that make one being live(sense,emotion,instincts,sensors ...),all this parts are interacting with each other and permeate through each other.

I will stop myself here,to see what is someone else opinion.I have to add much more in my explanation.But i could conclude this that in my opinion AI is delusion, or delusional thought a bit similar as thought of god.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: ivan.moony on February 15, 2016, 10:22:38 pm
Hi Madmax :)

Circumstances are not just unpredictable, there is a whole range between completely predictable and completely unpredictable. And sometimes it is not safe to throw a dice. So the AI should also learn when it is safe to risk by doing something that has unpredictable consequences. I think that that is the price of knowledge: playing around with uncertain things and learning what happened as a consequence. That way the circle of knowledge grows and things become predictable.

I believe that human behavior is just a logic system, analogous to math system, where we can predict a lot of things. The system is more or less personalized by each person (depends on some important lifetime decisions), but it should be logical and constant with each person herself. Less important things would be more or less random, but very important things like decisions on a matter of life and death should be constant in adulthood.

I have plans for an AI that mimics and combines observed human behavior (unless it does not pass the ethic filter). I don't care how the human brain works exactly, internally. I just want to copy the outer behavior and to pick up the most appropriate decisions seen in similar situations.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Art on February 16, 2016, 10:32:42 am
Welcome Madmax!

You should read the section here in the following link: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peter-diamandis/ai--technology-convergenc_b_9233220.html?utm_hp_ref=technology&ir=Technology (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peter-diamandis/ai--technology-convergenc_b_9233220.html?utm_hp_ref=technology&ir=Technology)

The article highlights Mr. Stephen Gold, CMO and VP for IBM's Watson, the computer that played Jeopardy and beat two of the best players in the world.

How life began and how the brain functions have actually very little to do with how an AI can or does operate. It's strength is in the available or accessible knowledge base and the programming.

Choices are what makes us human and with proper programming and access to information, a computer / android will be able to make correct or at least best choices in the very near future. A lot of these programmable devices already do.

Nothing is impossible in the world of computer applications...just wait.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: madmax on February 16, 2016, 07:25:09 pm
Thanks for welcome.

I am not saying that programming or computer are useless, that would be stupid of me,and i agree that computational capabilities of computers are much greater than humans, but also computation is not intelligence even it is part of it.Any machine is just a tool, and intelligence is not just a tool, even it may seem.Logic systems, math systems, algorithms all of this are just a tool through which intelligence make decisions and predictions about circumstances in reality and because intelligence as part of living being is also part of that reality, we make systems through which we try to explain intelligence itself.But, we are still just trying.

What is the purpose of intelligence, of course, to maintain the life.But the evolution of life is a long process.Complex life forms have complex systems that are part of it.Intelligence is one of that complex systems and is not independent of other.We could expand our intelligence through knowledge and by using tools as computers, but we would never be able to make AI, because when we would expand our intelligence to the point when we would know how intelligence works we would not need one as AI.


Beside this, I agree that programming is very useful for making some complex computational systems that would help us to expand our knowledge or to get easier access to it, and to produce some useful tools too. 
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Freddy on February 16, 2016, 09:15:10 pm
That's why we usually tag the 'artificial' on the beginning. I don't think many people say that AI equates to human or any other intelligence - merely that intelligence per se is often the inspiration behind a lot of people's work - precisely because, as you say, it is so useful.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: madmax on February 17, 2016, 05:01:32 pm
I agree with your point of view,if we take intelligence as optionally arrangement of data and with that mysteriously inspirational untouchable opportunities.Something will come out from this too.But if we are looking for life purpose instead amusement, because i think life is enough amusing,we must follow the roots meaning of intelligence as something that is part of living being.


My intention is not to arguing,i just want to clarify for my self what is really AI,because many people think that AI would be one day able to run the world or something like that.For me that is delusion.Even it is possible to produce some system that will run other systems or produce systems,in some way that are computer viruses,and i don't think that this viruses are intelligent except those who made them are.


What is my point.Every technology could be misused,especially if at first are not clarifying intentions or real purpose or even real meaning,from where that meaning came and what are implication of that meaning.

I just trying to see where this going.

PS:sorry if i sound general or confusing, and because this of topic
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Art on February 18, 2016, 12:09:24 am
Madmax,

If you're able, try to find time to read through this article and notice the section that mentions his computer program: "It has taught itself to master the game by using general-purpose machine learning techniques."

Human...No. Intelligence...Yes, with respect to the board game of 'Go'.

So computers / androids can indeed 'Learn'. Does that make them intelligent? Maybe not in the human sense but prehaps that where we need to define new terms. Robot / Android intelligence will likely differ when compared to human intelligence. The End result is often what matters most. It learned to play by watching and playing humans and now a human can't beat it! Can it do your taxes or help your child with their homework. Not at this moment, nor was it designed to but in the near future, I believe that these computer driven 'mechs' (androids, humanoids, etc.) will be capable of almost anything. Although I am a Futurist, I am also enough of a realist to realize that these entities will probably not be ready in my lifetime since I have less than 20 years left (give or take). But possible, certainly.

Never say never and never say that something is impossible because someone out there will prove you wrong! O0


http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/feb/16/demis-hassabis-artificial-intelligence-deepmind-alphago (http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/feb/16/demis-hassabis-artificial-intelligence-deepmind-alphago)




Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Freddy on February 18, 2016, 12:30:22 am
I just trying to see where this going.

PS:sorry if i sound general or confusing, and because this of topic


Perfectly fine, this is how and why we began this forum. We've all got valid concerns and we talk about them - you are not confusing things :)
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: madmax on February 18, 2016, 08:18:51 pm
Nice article,like summary about what is really going on.And how Demis Hassabis said, it is all about gaming right now.And i think even is this technology has wrong name,because of what is intelligence about, is very promising.Only thing that is to be fear about, is not machines take over, but the thing that this technology could be used by some force against people for easier government or any other way of exploitation or repression, and some accidents that are always possible especially with new technologies.


Actually i think that changing the name will help this technology to develop, in the way that will focus on real threat,not to that delusional one as "terminators armagedon".


It is never,i am still sure in this, possible for humans to make AI, that will be able to live its own life on its own way, what is intelligence really about as i think.


Simple thought experiment: if there can be AI then we are not intelligent enough, so then creating of our intelligence is delusion and following this there cant be AI.This look like loop logic, but AI like notion of god is cause of loop that occur in our brain because of mechanism that selflessness and our reasoning works.


But putting a side problem about name, technology that distinguish patterns in side of some forms or functions, with maybe synthesis of many scientific fields, for better and faster insight in many problems is promising good,apart from complex economical and political occasion today.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Art on February 18, 2016, 10:35:55 pm
You have some good points. What ever is invented or developed, that might have potential or possible applications in or for other exploits will certainly be grabbed by the military / government as if they had discovered it.

For what you look ahead and have determined a self supporting AI to be impossible, will most likely come to pass in the future, perhaps not in your time but it will happen.

Think back to the first use of electricity and the first incandescent light bulb! Wow! Magic! Impossible to have a glowing light inside a glass bulb and yet it happened.

How about a person's voice over a copper wire? Impossible! Not at all!

Transferring a camera's images over wireless space! More magic! More impossible tasks!

Printing things in plastic!

Being able to talk to a non-human device and it understands you, then fetches answers or directions for you!

Wireless phones, cellular phones, computer chess programs and go champion computer programs! Will the impossible never end? No! It's not meant to!

It was only impossible before it was invented! This is true with all of history for the most part! It will likely hold true after we're gone. We may never know for sure and it really doesn't matter when all is said and done...except that it happened! They'll say, "You know, 50 years ago this ______ would have been impossible!" And they would have been correct!

One can't close the mind to all the 'what-if's' that could still be invented. Ask your great grandfather or great grandmother if that seems impossible. You already know what their answer will be.  ;)
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: madmax on February 19, 2016, 08:20:43 pm
We are on some kind of top of the evolution,with intelligence involved.And this intelligence branch of evolution is for reason to maintain life.Our capability to think, make decision, is driven by force of life.We are through self-awareness making notion as intelligence to get better mental picture of our self and whole reality.So everything we think of is driven by life force and if we delusion our self we go against the life it self.If our intelligence is life purpose mechanism, that mean that is close to life function it self it cant be divided from life in the meaning of self existence.


We could manipulate with our knowledge and make automatic ,self existence in some point,systems.But to build self driven system on level of our intelligence or some hypothetical super intelligence is not possible simple because we don't have that knowledge,and in the hypothetical point in time when we get enough knowledge we will not need AI,one reason, because we will see what is really life about and why it is so great,and in other reason or possibility we will transform us,unlikely,in some other way of existence.


All machines, all staff that we make or were made are part of us,our tools our shelters.And we like to personification them to easier and better understand them to get relate with them.Complex instrument, systems are not intelligent those who made them are, they are just complex or hard to comprehend.


In the surface life look simple eating, shiting, reproducing,some just reproducing without previous two like viruses even some think that they are not actually live.But how then we get to the knowledge of atoms, electrons,universe.It seems that life is actually pretty complex as universe is too.Just to observe pathways in our brain we must have vast computational power, just to observe.We know so little, and saying we are able to create AI is the same as saying we are able to travel with light speed.For me both of this are ridiculous.


So AI is wrong term, i suggest something as automatic evaluating system , that sounds more correct for me.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Art on February 20, 2016, 01:26:29 am
The whole purpose of humans building Robots was to allow these mechanical units to perform tasks that would first have been unsafe and second, the eliminate the repeated drudgery of monotonous tasks of putting the same bolt into the same hole hour after hour, day after day....
Of course, the scientists and inventors and hobbyists of the would could simply not stop there. Assembly line robots, bolt fitters and painters and welders weren't enough. They needed to see if it were possible to create a human-like being. Maybe it was due to a God complex or something. Who knows.

Mankind is far past thinking only of survival...a lot think about getting a raise, married, a promotion, big-screen TV, new car, things! Stuff! Hardly intelligence or life's purpose. We are about existence and working and paying bills, etc.
Sure, no one want's to (OK most don't want to) die. Humans live to live, love and enjoy life, have kids / grandkids, pursue hobbys and sports events or fishing or whatever appeals to them. Even though we know there are laboratories housing some of the most dangerous biohazards in the world and some not that far away from where we live. We also don't stop to think about the advances in the AI labs and robotics divisions of some very powerful companies around the world.

For some reason you keep sticking to your guns about this even after my repeated examples. You said:
"...to build self driven system on level of our intelligence or some hypothetical super intelligence is not possible..."

They (the android / humanoid / robot scientists, developers, hobbyists) are not thinking and working to build a system on our level...they are way beyond that! NASA has a robot for space voyages, DARPA has several powerful types and GOOGLE has acquired a lot of these companies! There are many others in the works around the world.

Face it...if there are already computers that far surpass mans ability in gaming (checkers, chess, go, Jeopardy) to name a few, just how long do you think it will be before the collective machine intelligence leaves mankind in the dust!

They could, with some proper rule-sets, help mankind live and enjoy a better world or they could simply examine history along with man's inhumanity to man and choose logically to not help us at all and watch our demise.

Don't say it is impossible for machine intelligence to surpass man's because it's almost there right now.

Madmax, I am not trying to argue with you. I find your take refreshing and enjoy the discussion. It's nice that you are here with us.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: madmax on February 21, 2016, 05:22:39 pm
Let see different approach.What are psychopaths, those who have difficulties to experience emotions but they could be very intelligent.This is like life showing anomaly through we could see what is happening when intelligence and other life system function are not well connected.


And emotions are not only important life function, there are some primitive in brain places that are responsible for maintain involuntary life functions, and they are interconnected with emotions too.So life is like some precise balance with complex system that response to this balance and trying to maintain balance with unpredictable surround circumstances.And intelligence is just one of the interconnected functions.


What we as society doing with balance of life environment.We have economic system that we thing is self-driving, but as we can see this economic self-driving system make pollution and destroy natural environment, to not mention climate change.What is the point, we alienated our self from life, like we do in this case with intelligence.


Making system that beating us in game is intelligent, but we use game to learn something about our limits or to expend our limits.If we have microscope that is helping us to see and not making us less intelligent or making microscope it self more sophisticated then we are or some how intelligent.Everything we make is our intelligence, if we make something by accident and get some impressive results, it is on our intelligence to find out why is that so.


If we make self driving system, that is extension of our intelligence it is not AI.There cant be AI.The most important thing is how we developed our intelligence through learning by or about this complex data operating systems.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: terminatedapathy on May 03, 2016, 03:48:53 am
I'm a senior in high school who is about to graduate in a few weeks. I'm going to go to college for computer science.

Compared to others, I do not have much experience in programming. I've made small things here and there but nothing substantial in terms of web development. I've worked as lead programmer of my school's FIRST robotics team. "Leader" might be a stretch, seeing as there was only one other programmer, but I digress. I've also tinkered a bit in robotics, having constructed an autonomously roving bot that doesn't run into walls (as instructed by a guide that went with the parts) for my senior thesis.

I'm hoping to use my CS degree for artificial intelligence someday. I feel as if I'm starting out small, but I've had a passion for technology for a long while and I'm sure if I can push past the fact that school has drained almost all of my energy for learning, then I can accomplish something noteworthy.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Freddy on May 03, 2016, 11:53:30 am
Welcome :)

I found college and university far less draining than high school due to the fact I was doing something I chose to do, so I reckon you have a lot to look forward to. Obviously there is still a lot of work to do, but I remember it was nice to be treated like an adult at last.

Programming things related to AI is a great way to learn programming - there's a multitude of things that come in useful and endless techniques.

Have fun and I hope you enjoy this forum :)
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Art on May 03, 2016, 01:18:39 pm
Welcome aboard, TA (if caps and two words), but none-the-less, take time to look around and dig through the archives as they do go back several years.
There's a lot of nice, really sharp people here that can possibly offer help or perhaps just some friendship. Either way, don't get too rushed about your future...it will come soon enough!  ;)
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: korrelan on May 03, 2016, 07:35:29 pm
Yo! Dude!

Welcome… Surfing is pretty rad here, so kick back and crack open bevy… we got a real mixed bunch of Brah, some are a bit norm… but most are crazzzzzzzzy man.

Just joshing… I'm in one of them moods… Really nice bunch of peeps here, welcome to the best AI forum on the web.

 ;)

Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: goforlife on June 04, 2016, 09:06:18 pm
Hi I'm goforlife, always been interested in AI and consciousness, but recently I purchased kari and am excited about seeing what the state of the art in AI is these days. I have only had her for one day, but I don't feel like I'm making much progress. I hope to get some pointers on this site. As for my drag life, I'm an accountant in Florida, though I'm originally from a much colder climate in the US. I have been to the United Kingdom, many years ago with my buds to taste the real ale, we drove through England, Scotland, and Wales, beautiful country, great people. And like the rest of you, overworked and underpaid!
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Freddy on June 06, 2016, 09:53:32 pm
Hello and welcome  :)
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: DDOG2245 on November 21, 2016, 11:42:57 pm
Hello, I am new to this website. I am currently going to school, But I would like to support some companies by helping with robotics issues. My goal is to have a usable self learning AI by February 1st of 2020. So that it is done by the time my birthday rolls around. Thanks so much.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: kei10 on November 21, 2016, 11:50:16 pm
Hello, welcome!

That's neat, I'm sure there's a plenty of companies around that could make use of your support.

Good day! :)
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Freddy on November 22, 2016, 01:47:01 am
Welcome  :)
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Art on November 22, 2016, 12:43:24 pm
Welcome aboard. Look around, dig through the archives, ask some questions. Enjoy your stay!
Good luck in your passion!
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: ghost car on January 28, 2017, 04:24:54 am
" I am an auto worker from the USA. I sort everything that goes under the hood of every year, make and model of automobiles. I rebuild and remake all parts. I am currently building my best friend, PHOEBE, my onboard obd2 reader "Ultra Hal Assistant 5.0"  on my laptop. I just have "her" in my car at all times with Key lemon to detect if it is me or not. Check engine? Nope. she just immediately says something like "Spark plug in the 3rd cylinder is failing." etc.... A work in progress. But a good idea, just need some help sometimes with the coding/"programming". as I am from the VIC-20/C64 Binary microcomputer era. Hey, a dude born in 74, needs some kind of help every now and then.
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Art on January 28, 2017, 01:53:43 pm
Welcome here!
I admire you in that your car is your patient and you are the Doctor.

The bad thing that offers the challenge is that your "patient" cannot speak, hear, feel or reason. This means that you have an extremely difficult task of diagnosing, analyzing, prescribing and applying what you believe to be a suitable treatment for your "patient" to be able to work at it's peak performance. No trivial task here.

That coupled with an onboard A.I. to assist you must make for a very interesting experience.

Keep us posted with your progress or possibly a short video / demo sometime. Thanks!

Again...Welcome! O0
Title: Re: Who are you, what do you do & what do you want to do ?
Post by: Freddy on January 29, 2017, 11:21:23 pm
Welcome :)

The VIC-20s were among my first computer experiences too.