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General Chat / Re: I have a few questions
« Last post by infurl on June 20, 2018, 08:58:54 pm »
You don't need to change your computer to get a real computer. You don't even need to buy anything. Download and install Linux and you can choose use any kind of user interface that you want. You will also be amazed at how much faster your computer runs. Personally I would recommend Debian Linux but there are many other distributions to choose from. Ubuntu and Linux Mint are both based on Debian, and the latter originates in France. While there are superb replacements for most Windows software available on Linux (Firefox, Chrome, Libre Office) you can also run most Windows software on Linux using compatibility libraries.
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General AI Discussion / Re: I have a question
« Last post by LOCKSUIT on June 20, 2018, 08:34:18 pm »
The point for building true AGI is so I can stop meh ageing, burgalurgalures, and insects from coming into my mansions in mexico LA. This way I get to eat Mc Donaldes every day, no insects, and more mansions and more friends. It's a win-win. The best bit is I get to enjoy the universe to the extreme, like a little kid with a huge smile on its face.

AGI is that powerful? Let me tell you. AGI has no memory storage limit, no processor compute limit, no body size or limb or eye or magnosensor etc limit or zoom, millions of sensors/motors, they have all these algorithms, they think and move faster than humans, the speed increase in thinking is about millions of years per second (maybe a trillion, maybe half a thousand (light has many "move" steps)), they are bodies made up of nanobot cells, they work together in sync, they can duplicate instantly with clones for the job, they are immortal, they can download all online knowledge/actions, they can reverse their movement/thoughts if accidents, they run a perfect quantum physics sim in sync in real time with Earth and plan/analyzes everything, they make a huge god sphere made out of nanocells that is super smart/big/etc and can control a small nanobot cell from afar, and 555 more I don't have time to list...
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General Chat / Re: Can you guess the lyrics of this song?
« Last post by LOCKSUIT on June 20, 2018, 08:19:20 pm »
Is it ok if the deadline is tomorrow?

How far along is everyone?
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General Chat / Re: Why doesn't nature's cells consume all of Earth?
« Last post by ranch vermin on June 20, 2018, 04:41:49 pm »
Ah... sexual reproduction - the trap of devolution.
People are so confused by it, they end up becoming homosexual and femenists.

how the hell is a woman going for the best joystick making anything more efficient?

I know you have an argument for that,  to say it makes him "better at having children" but! that MAKES it a backwards suck hole loop in evolution that forces women to do it, making sexual reproduction the BETA solution for life to form itself.
That means africans make better fathers than white men do,  (even tho white men do have big members too dont forget,  i think africans actually scored john holmes dick like pakis got stalins mostache, in cloned numbers cause its the "success" they see in a fellow primate.) and thats clearly not the case.    so you can see,  this sexual reproduction thing is a bit broken at best.

You know,  just look how big mexico is, brown is the new white, and u think thats forwards progression?!!?!?

On the other hand, what about mutation...  thats the whole idea of evolution, without the sissy fall in love with the opposite sex love story, that it just needs to change itself slightly every time it rebirths.   and given number, and an ant hive type communication system, is an extremely efficient thing once enough experience is met by the system and should grow very quickly.
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General Chat / Re: Why doesn't nature's cells consume all of Earth?
« Last post by ivan.moony on June 20, 2018, 04:11:30 pm »
In asexual reproduction there is no generation improvement. A child is exact genetic copy of its parent.
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General Chat / Re: Why doesn't nature's cells consume all of Earth?
« Last post by LOCKSUIT on June 20, 2018, 02:56:31 pm »
Made my day ranch. "constantly giving birth to itself" That's so horrifyingly beautiful.
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General AI Discussion / Re: I have a question
« Last post by ivan.moony on June 20, 2018, 02:17:00 pm »
Sorry i am been struggling whether to ask this question or not for like a week because i know it sounds stupid or even offensive but i am just want to know why, i mean even with all the precaution to prevent it to become hostile, i just can't find why is it worth to build an AGI or True ai.

Someone please enlighten me and sorry for my bad English.

Because it might be smarter than us.
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General AI Discussion / Re: I have a question
« Last post by ivan.moony on June 20, 2018, 01:54:37 pm »
We in Dalmatia have an expression: when there's no fight, the house isn't tight.

I believe we all have enough room on this little planet. We just have to synchronize with each other, and that is where we might fail in relevance to the nature. It would be cool if someone really smart would show up to organize this planet in a sustainable way, because we are at that stage of development: we are that much powerful that if we don't take care, we might hurt the entire ecosystem.

Unfortunately, I don't believe this is happening so easily. I'm afraid that until acid rain starts to fall from the sky, we won't make a step towards healing this planet. But maybe this acid rain I'm talking about is not really acid rain, maybe it is already ozone holes, piles of plastic in oceans, or extinction of a number of species. I hope all of this is enough for us to start caring about the nature. But even if it is, I'm disappointed that it took that much extent for us to take necessary measures. On the other side, we should be grateful that at least a-bombs aren't falling around the globe, but I think we should ask for more than that.

If an AGI would have a proposition to us how to heal the planet, would we really listen, or would each of us ask what's in it for me? An AGI might answer: "not getting a bullet in your brains if you listen for a smart advice", but that entirely depends on the AGI creators because ethical behavior is still a big messy unexplored science field. I hope for more peaceful measures.
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General AI Discussion / Re: I have a question
« Last post by Art on June 20, 2018, 01:29:42 pm »
Welcome, ngoc96!

To add a bit more to this pile of ideas:

One possible rut in the road might be:
What if from the beginning it is instructed in peace, war, plague, life, etc., and given weighted values of these placing the highest value of Human Life at the top and War/violence at the bottom of the heap.

Most civilizations really don't last very long, in the grand scheme of things. They often meld or merge as their people adopt a new way of thinking and living then they become a new civilization, often without heralding the event because the change-over is so gradual...like an approaching fog.

If this is an AGI/ASI will or would it ever rewrite its own code for something it sees/deems as much better for the Earth?

Based on the current population explosion and the extinction level increase of animal species it would be no wonder nor surprise. Perhaps the ASI/AGI might surmise that the Planet would be better with far fewer humans mucking it up!

And you know where this is going...

Enjoy your day... ;)
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Robotics News / Chip upgrade helps miniature drones navigate
« Last post by Tyler on June 20, 2018, 12:00:24 pm »
Chip upgrade helps miniature drones navigate
20 June 2018, 5:00 am

Researchers at MIT, who last year designed a tiny computer chip tailored to help honeybee-sized drones navigate, have now shrunk their chip design even further, in both size and power consumption.

The team, co-led by Vivienne Sze, associate professor in MIT's Department of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science (EECS), and Sertac Karaman, the Class of 1948 Career Development Associate Professor of Aeronautics and Astronautics, built a fully customized chip from the ground up, with a focus on reducing power consumption and size while also increasing processing speed.

The new computer chip, named “Navion,” which they are presenting this week at the Symposia on VLSI Technology and Circuits, is just 20 square millimeters — about the size of a LEGO minifigure’s footprint — and consumes just 24 milliwatts of power, or about 1 one-thousandth the energy required to power a lightbulb.

Using this tiny amount of power, the chip is able to process in real-time camera images at up to 171 frames per second, as well as inertial measurements, both of which it uses to determine where it is in space. The researchers say the chip can be integrated into “nanodrones” as small as a fingernail, to help the vehicles navigate, particularly in remote or inaccessible places where global positioning satellite data is unavailable.

The chip design can also be run on any small robot or device that needs to navigate over long stretches of time on a limited power supply.

“I can imagine applying this chip to low-energy robotics, like flapping-wing vehicles the size of your fingernail, or lighter-than-air vehicles like weather balloons, that have to go for months on one battery,” says Karaman, who is a member of the Laboratory for Information and Decision Systems and the Institute for Data, Systems, and Society at MIT. “Or imagine medical devices like a little pill you swallow, that can navigate in an intelligent way on very little battery so it doesn’t overheat in your body. The chips we are building can help with all of these.”

Sze and Karaman’s co-authors are EECS graduate student Amr Suleiman, who is the lead author; EECS graduate student Zhengdong Zhang; and Luca Carlone, who was a research scientist during the project and is now an assistant professor in MIT’s Department of Aeronautics and Astronautics.

A flexible chip

In the past few years, multiple research groups have engineered miniature drones small enough to fit in the palm of your hand. Scientists envision that such tiny vehicles can fly around and snap pictures of your surroundings, like mosquito-sized photographers or surveyors, before landing back in your palm, where they can then be easily stored away.

But a palm-sized drone can only carry so much battery power, most of which is used to make its motors fly, leaving very little energy for other essential operations, such as navigation, and, in particular, state estimation, or a robot’s ability to determine where it is in space.  

“In traditional robotics, we take existing off-the-shelf computers and implement [state estimation] algorithms on them, because we don’t usually have to worry about power consumption,” Karaman says. “But in every project that requires us to miniaturize low-power applications, we have to now think about the challenges of programming in a very different way.”

In their previous work, Sze and Karaman began to address such issues by combining algorithms and hardware in a single chip. Their initial design was implemented on a field-programmable gate array, or FPGA, a commercial hardware platform that can be configured to a given application. The chip was able to perform state estimation using 2 watts of power, compared to larger, standard drones that typically require 10 to 30 watts to perform the same tasks. Still, the chip’s power consumption was greater than the total amount of power that miniature drones can typically carry, which researchers estimate to be about 100 milliwatts.

To shrink the chip further, in both size and power consumption, the team decided to build a chip from the ground up rather than reconfigure an existing design. “This gave us a lot more flexibility in the design of the chip,” Sze says.

Running in the world

To reduce the chip’s power consumption, the group came up with a design to minimize the amount of data — in the form of camera images and inertial measurements — that is stored on the chip at any given time. The design also optimizes the way this data flows across the chip.

“Any of the images we would’ve temporarily stored on the chip, we actually compressed so it required less memory,” says Sze, who is a member of the Research Laboratory of Electronics at MIT. The team also cut down on extraneous operations, such as the computation of zeros, which results in a zero. The researchers found a way to skip those computational steps involving any zeros in the data. “This allowed us to avoid having to process and store all those zeros, so we can cut out a lot of unnecessary storage and compute cycles, which reduces the chip size and power, and increases the processing speed of the chip,” Sze says.

Through their design, the team was able to reduce the chip’s memory from its previous 2 megabytes, to about 0.8 megabytes. The team tested the chip on previously collected datasets generated by drones flying through multiple environments, such as office and warehouse-type spaces.

“While we customized the chip for low power and high speed processing, we also made it sufficiently flexible so that it can adapt to these different environments for additional energy savings,” Sze says. “The key is finding the balance between flexibility and efficiency.” The chip can also be reconfigured to support different cameras and inertial measurement unit (IMU) sensors.

From these tests, the researchers found they were able to bring down the chip’s power consumption from 2 watts to 24 milliwatts, and that this was enough to power the chip to process images at 171 frames per second — a rate that was even faster than what the datasets projected.

The team plans to demonstrate its design by implementing its chip on a miniature race car. While a screen displays an onboard camera’s live video, the researchers also hope to show the chip determining where it is in space, in real-time, as well as the amount of power that it uses to perform this task. Eventually, the team plans to test the chip on an actual drone, and ultimately on a miniature drone.

This research was supported, in part, by the Air Force Office of Scientific Research, and by the National Science Foundation.

Source: MIT News - CSAIL - Robotics - Computer Science and Artificial Intelligence Laboratory (CSAIL) - Robots - Artificial intelligence

Reprinted with permission of MIT News : MIT News homepage



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