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General AI Discussion / Re: essay topic
« Last post by Zero on August 15, 2017, 08:11:06 pm »
Why 90% computers are sold with windows?

There are a number of possible responses to this question. My favorite is that 90% of computer users are too stupid to run Linux, but it's simply not true. What is true is that the number of computers sold with Windows these days is vanishingly small compared to the billions and billions of computers that run Linux in the form of Android, and the alternative to Android on those computers is still not Windows, so the premise of your question is actually false.

Hey, good answer! Blurring the lines between smartphones and computers, that's clever!

My favorite answer: "Because 90% computers are sold with windows!"

EDIT:
Back to the topic, I think the game changer here is the concept of "app". There's a store, you click the button, you have it installed, end of story. Phones have it, Win10 has it, Ubuntu has it (sort of), Firefox, Chrome, ...etc. This is the exact point where new tech can breach through existing heavy-weights, and you see it everyday: success stories, on an app market, coming from nowhere. So I'm rather optimistic about this.
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General Project Discussion / Robotis OP2, neural network. An infant approach!
« Last post by Eric on August 15, 2017, 07:50:16 pm »
Hello AI folks,
My name is Eric and I'm a student in Engineering physics in Lund, Sweden. I am very interested in machine learning and I've just started learning about how these things work. I’ve come to some realizations, so far I've understood that when you want to teach a coded program something either you have
1. A data set with input data and result which you run through your program to train it. For example the MNIST Data http://yann.lecun.com/exdb/mnist/base
2. You generate your own data and result by having a simulation environment. Just like the examples we've seen when a program learns how to play a video game.

After realising these two types of ways to train for example a neural network I started to wonder if you could do it differently. I started thinking about a couple of things.
1. Bringing the learning process into the real world, could there be factors that help the learning or would it just be, like in many other experiments, a too complex enviromen with too much data to handle for the learning program.
2. Could we compensate this environment with supervised learning? Could this affect the quality of the input data?

My idea:
Have a robot like the the Robotis OP2 http://en.robotis.com/index/product.php?cate_code=111310
as an agent acting in my home. The inputs will be all the sensoric data it can detect and all it’s movements in form of walking, falling, getting up and so on. As far as I’ve understood I would need something like a cost-function, giving it a rating of how well it has achieved.
I’m thinking of trying to model its neural network to get as close as possible to an infants mind, being entirely impulsdriven (like babies are in their early years). That would mean that it’s objective would change all the time and therefore also the costfunction(?) which would decide the weights of each neuron, right?

I understand this sounds like an extremely difficult task but do you have any inputs with your knowledge of how machine learning actually works?
I’m trying to aim for a more flexible but initially simple system that can modify itself to a greater extent.

Thanks for all the help!

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General AI Discussion / Re: essay topic
« Last post by LOCKSUIT on August 15, 2017, 07:34:32 pm »
You don't have to bump up your tech and deal with humans. Just create AI, and it bumps itself up instantly and all the world and beyond will become heaven.
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General AI Discussion / Re: essay topic
« Last post by ivan.moony on August 15, 2017, 07:02:15 pm »
Now, weren't we talking about AI?

Yes, what I meant is: someone made Siri/Alexa/GoogleNow with 20% AGI capacity. And people are using it. Cool. Then someone will come up with XYZ with 50% AGI capacity. And people will install it and like it better. But after this, people will ignore anything that is better. One little girl/guy will one day in her/his basement make something worth of admiring, and it will be a big problem for her/him to place it up the web because 90% of people won't need this enhancement. 10% people that make the difference wouldn't  be enough to make the change.

It is just my personal impression, but with great power comes great responsibility. We could count on opensource wave, modularity and a good documentation if we were optimists, but are any of existing technologies that kind to newcomers? It doesn't look cool to me. Most likely we are about to have proprietary 100% AGI capacity too late with 20% time of using it and 80% time of watching, argh, pulp commercials (commercials can also be art, right? We are not that lucky, we'll have less than 1% art like commercials)
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General AI Discussion / Re: essay topic
« Last post by WriterOfMinds on August 15, 2017, 06:22:33 pm »
Desktop Linux "just works" ... until it doesn't, and then the debugging process is a pain. Multitudes of distros and distro versions make it harder to find information that is relevant to your particular flavor. Its general insistence on having internet access is annoying (ever tried to install a network driver, or any program, on a Linux PC that won't connect to the network?). Also, GUIs were invented for a reason. I'm not too dumb to make Linux work, but I find it needlessly inconvenient in a variety of ways.

In general, I haven't found it any less problematic than Windows -- it just has different problems. Pick your poison. And don't pass off your personal preference as the poison everybody should be taking.

Now, weren't we talking about AI?
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General AI Discussion / Re: essay topic
« Last post by Art on August 15, 2017, 04:43:48 pm »
One other way to inject some additional thought is that about 71-74 % of computer servers in the world are using either Linux or a form of the Linux OS.

Approximately 1.5 % of home Desktop computers use Linux as an OS.

Apple amounts to less than 8%

Windows (XP - believe it or not, 7,8,8.1 and 10) make up about 88%

The rest is of various flavors of combined and some homebrewed OS's.

Given the number of Servers (business and other scientific end experimental facilities) in use, could it be that Linux has not tryed to dumb it down enough for the masses to consider using? Hmm.

One day soon...
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General Chat / Re: Foward from Yahoo VR group
« Last post by Art on August 15, 2017, 04:26:15 pm »
Welcome.

I think you've posted this in the wrong area and likely meant it for the Ultra Hal area instead of the VR category.

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XKCD Comic / XKCD Comic : Eclipse Searches
« Last post by Tyler on August 15, 2017, 12:02:30 pm »
Eclipse Searches
14 August 2017, 5:00 am

There were traffic jams for the eclipses in 1970 and 1979, and that was *before* we had the potential for overnight viral social media frenzies.

Source: xkcd.com

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General Chat / Foward from Yahoo VR group
« Last post by dimaria on August 15, 2017, 11:01:26 am »
I posted this e-mail at the other groups I am in, I don?t think Hal is the best for a spoke person, but then I am always impressed with what you people get your Hals to do .
So I am just going to pass this up to you I have the groups address and his address.

Thanks,
Les
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General Project Discussion / Re: Determined and at the core of AI.
« Last post by LOCKSUIT on August 15, 2017, 12:38:28 am »
Thought it'd be cool to let yous know that I've had at least 4 dreams where I have heard a song LIKE the songs I LOVE on my pc. They were completely different. But similar. I could create music/movies/etc that I would love if I had this technology. One dream had similar parts but where different and they all had 0 fuzz/error/mistakes/etc. I can also do this when I'm awake, btw.

Give me, The Hills Have Eyes 8
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