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Just to get an idea of the demographic, who believes in the classical ghost?

Yes, they exist in reality, they are dead peoples spirits of some kind.
0 (0%)
Yes, they exist in reality but are aliens, fairies, etc.
0 (0%)
Yes, they exist in reality but from other/ unknown source.
1 (14.3%)
No, they are a manifestation of a persons mind.
4 (57.1%)
Not sure.
2 (28.6%)

Total Members Voted: 7

Voting closes: Today at 10:01:58 pm

Spiritualism and spirits

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Re: Spiritualism and spirits
« Reply #30 on: December 06, 2017, 10:33:33 pm »
Why does it matter to you so much what I think?  Does it affect you in anyway? I certainly don’t care what you believe… I suggest you do the same.

We will never reconcile our opinions, they are polar opposites. You have your cognitive style and I have mine.  You like to go out and take photos of ghosts… I have never seen a ghost, real magic or any other type of paranormal phenomena and never will… ever, so there is no point discussing it.

So please just calm down and lets get back to the AI.

Do you think that giving an AI the propensity to believe in ghosts would be advantageous to its intelligence or development in any way?

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ED: I received the personal post unreal.

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You're an idiot, due. You have no desire to seek truth and knowledge. I think most of your posts might be from a chatbot because no human could possibly be that stupid.

Again... I really don't care what you think lol

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LOL, exactly. You don't care. Seeking truth & knowledge isn't a high priority for you, but yet you create polls about ghosts lol. You're interested in ghosts, but only proving your beliefs about ghosts. You avoid the photographic evidence question because it challenges your belief system. Your NN defense mechanisms rely on statements such as you've never taken of photo of a ghost out of the countless photos you've taken. Biased poor thinking process. You ignore my statements on how one goes about capturing ghost photos. I'm done with this ridiculous pathetic forum. I thought perhaps people working on AI would be a little above the average IQ. smh

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Re: Spiritualism and spirits
« Reply #31 on: December 06, 2017, 10:55:24 pm »
If you want to change the world, wisdom teaches you to change yourself.

Accept others and let them be. :flower:
If you vaporize a teardrop, you get a salt.   :flake:

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Re: Spiritualism and spirits
« Reply #32 on: December 06, 2017, 10:58:11 pm »
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I'm done with this ridiculous pathetic forum.

Before you go... perhaps if I could see some of these photos... it might help convince/ convert me?

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It thunk... therefore it is!

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Re: Spiritualism and spirits
« Reply #33 on: December 06, 2017, 11:12:42 pm »
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I'm done with this ridiculous pathetic forum.

Before you go... perhaps if I could see some of these photos... it might help convince/ convert me?

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You don't listen. You'll never know if they're fake unless they're yours, or perhaps if your best friend takes them. If you're interested in truth, then read my posts and find a good local ghost hunting team. There are plenty of good ones.

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Re: Spiritualism and spirits
« Reply #34 on: December 06, 2017, 11:27:58 pm »
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You'll never know if they're fake

I trust you... show me your best picture.

if I think I've seen a ghost and it's just a case of pareidolia, then the picture I've taken is just going to always fire the same errant recognition process and show me exactly the same thing.

If you show me a picture that you think is a ghost, because I didn't have the initial experience I can view it from a neutral perspective. And because pareidolia is based on personal experiences we will have dissimilar perspectives, If there is no mistaking the picture for a 'entity' I should see it and recognise it for what it is... it should be obvious to both of us.

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Re: Spiritualism and spirits
« Reply #35 on: December 06, 2017, 11:29:15 pm »
Unreality has been banned for a week for insulting members of the forum.
« Last Edit: December 07, 2017, 06:51:55 pm by Freddy »

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Re: Spiritualism and spirits
« Reply #36 on: December 07, 2017, 07:33:30 am »
To be true, I define myself as a physicalist, who still accepts animism as a convenient way to describe and think (but not hide) some aspects of reality.

ED: The way I see it, all the vocabulary and concepts related to "spirits" (as understood in this thread) can be used to describe emotional states induced by some situations, or art, anthropomorphism, subjective experience of our consciousness, what people can feel when they meditate, ...etc. There are a lot of things I consider physically real (atoms, molecules, ...), but I tend to talk about rather with high level concepts and vocabularies. So I can use the word "spirit".
« Last Edit: December 07, 2017, 09:46:12 am by Zero »

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Re: Spiritualism and spirits
« Reply #37 on: December 07, 2017, 03:52:29 pm »
Thank you for tending to him as I just got back and after reading his assault, was more than ready to do the same.

There is no need to slam you mind closed whenever someone else might have a difference of perspective or opinion.

We need to at least try to be tolerant of others whether we necessarily agree with their beliefs or not.

Lastly, a civil discussion or even debate is always conducted in a friendly and open forum, without resorting to name calling or insults.

An unfortunate path to take but hopefully so good will come of it.

If you all would care to continue this thread, by all means do so.
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