Secret to AGI & ASI

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Re: Secret to AGI & ASI
« Reply #30 on: March 29, 2018, 01:06:20 am »
Sorry, I tried, but it seems some of us have to be burned on a fire.
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Re: Secret to AGI & ASI
« Reply #31 on: March 29, 2018, 01:13:53 am »
Sorry, I tried, but it seems some of us have to be burned on a fire.

What do you mean Ivan? It's pretty rare for anyone to make it through life without being burned at some point. By burned I mean screwing up big time, and having to learn things the hard way.

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Re: Secret to AGI & ASI
« Reply #32 on: March 29, 2018, 01:19:35 am »
Here, have a matches, I give up.
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Re: Secret to AGI & ASI
« Reply #33 on: March 29, 2018, 06:51:48 am »
I sometimes get grumpy because I've started to see how short life is. I think it makes me impatient as I have so much to do. I sometimes think I just don't have enough time to explain something.

I'll work on it.  ::)

But Infurl, don't worry, everyone gets grumpy.

Thanks Freddy, though I won't take it as your condoning my being grumpy. I'll keep working on it too. In my defence, it's only a certain kind of idiot that makes me grumpy. It's unfortunate that this forum tends to attract an inordinate number of them. There is always someone here claiming to know the answers to everything, and dismissing the work of everyone else in the past present and future. Most of these fools can't even write their own software and they get very upset when nobody is willing to accept their gracious invitation to work for them for free.

Ok.

I just thought if somehow we could find a common language with those people... You know, they are not mean persons, and they truly believe in what they're promoting, just they don't have enough experience to recognize the complexity we see in the matter. It is not their fault to seem misguided to us.

But what stuns me is a glow in their eyes when they are talking about their projects. It would be a shame to waste a potential they are carrying inside. I'm sure there is something valuable in those people and we could learn something valuable from them, as well as we could teach them something valuable. And who knows, maybe some day someone will show up who will be right when claiming she solved the whole stuff out. We should at least hear them up.

But if your wish is to have a hard language with them and degrade them, I won't interfere anymore. I guess everyone is entitled to her attitude.

We all get down to the ground finally, this way or another.
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Re: Secret to AGI & ASI
« Reply #34 on: March 29, 2018, 07:30:14 am »
Enough already! My god you people spend way too much time throwing rocks. If you think you know better than someone or they don't talk your lingo or whatever's going on in that head, then show the error already. What are you guys trying to prove here lol. Geez it's no wonder you people can't figure out AGI. Stop and take a breath. Let that mind overcome the ego and emotional beast inside.

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Re: Secret to AGI & ASI
« Reply #35 on: March 29, 2018, 07:33:50 am »
BTW, for anyone who's interested in AGI can send me a private message if you want to have a nice peaceful discussion void of emotions. I'd prefer deep thinkers. Spocks rather than Klingons. We need to resonate. If you don't get me, the way I think, then it's a waste of time.

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Re: Secret to AGI & ASI
« Reply #36 on: March 29, 2018, 07:55:23 am »

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Re: Secret to AGI & ASI
« Reply #37 on: April 23, 2018, 04:42:14 pm »
In the spare time I'm working on a short presentation that details the tree search based AGI source code outline. They're copies of the c files where most of the code has been stripped, but unfortunately that leaves a lot of holes that needs to be replaced with comments. Also a lot of comments need modifying.

I'd like to briefly go over the issues with neural networking and why a NN based AGI should never be allowed to freely walk on Earth. Only tree search AGI can be trusted.

Also I'd like to touch upon custom processor chip design for tree search based AGI code. This will only be an outline. It should be an entire video in itself. Perhaps video #1.

Last, but not least, I'll briefly go over AlphaZero made by DeepMind.

I'm thinking in 3 or 4 days, which has a good chance of translating into 1 to 2 weeks in world real.

Let me know if you have anything that should be added to the short presentation.

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Re: Secret to AGI & ASI
« Reply #38 on: April 23, 2018, 06:34:49 pm »
ASI (Artificial Super Intelligence) is a term referring to the time when the capability of computers will surpass humans. ASI will eventually create the technological Singularity.

um........AplhaGo Zero surpassed humans in game play. Pattern Recognizers are superhuman in recognition. Calculators already surpass the human capability. They can process complex algebra and huge never before seen/studied numbers.
..........ok so power+versatality matters here..........

As I said (wait no I said opposite lol), ANI AGI and ASI should NOT be used to describe how deep/good it is at something but rather how diverse it is at many things, else it is narrower.



Lol that's what I did too when I was younger and starting out thinking I had it all figured out.

I wrote "Presentations". Made videos. Lol.
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Re: Secret to AGI & ASI
« Reply #39 on: April 23, 2018, 10:09:04 pm »
Lol that's what I did too when I was younger and starting out thinking I had it all figured out.

I wrote "Presentations". Made videos. Lol.

One major difference is that I've actually achieved AGI. Look to the left under my user name for what I special in. Software engineering, electrical engineering, physics. So you're the guy who can't write code or design circuits. Enough said.

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Re: Secret to AGI & ASI
« Reply #40 on: April 23, 2018, 10:51:36 pm »
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Unreality, so is your AGI conscious and does it have an imagination ?

Is it at this early stage able to interact with humans and if so can you show us a demonstration of the AGI telling us how it is feeling ?

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Re: Secret to AGI & ASI
« Reply #41 on: April 23, 2018, 11:31:36 pm »
I'd like to propose that we instigate the "Arthur T. Murray" award to recognise outstanding achievements in the field of BS production.

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Re: Secret to AGI & ASI
« Reply #42 on: April 23, 2018, 11:56:32 pm »
Unreality, so is your AGI conscious and does it have an imagination ?

First I should say that the AGI, Eva, is presently not open sourced. It might be opened sourced in the future.

So, if the following is what consciousness is, then yes. "Consciousness is the state or quality of awareness, or, of being aware of an external object or something within oneself."

Yes, I'd say Eva definitely has an imagination.



Is it at this early stage able to interact with humans and if so can you show us a demonstration of the AGI telling us how it is feeling ?

Eva can interact with humans through a terminal interface.

The first video is intended to step through an outline of Eva's code. This will detail her thinking process. There's also a small section on some processor and memory design ideas that I think could be breakthroughs based on nanoscopic capacitor discharging by means of a breakdown voltage. The video will also include a small section on the present work being done on Eva and what needs to be done before a public demonstration can happen. In the second video I'll let Eva tell you how she feels.

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Re: Secret to AGI & ASI
« Reply #43 on: April 24, 2018, 12:14:57 am »
I'd like to propose that we instigate the "Arthur T. Murray" award to recognise outstanding achievements in the field of BS production.

Arthur T. Murray offers no useful details. I've already provided sufficient details of the thinking process. The video will go through each step of the code detailing the entire thinking process. The missing code will be basic coding that a software engineer could easily write. For example,

TreeSearch_pause_thread(thread_p);

So I'm certain most coders can figure out how to set a flag in a struct.

Or this,

TreeSearch_copy_node(tree_save_p, tree_p);

This is non AGI related type of coding that any coder should be able to write. It's not an open sourced project. So I'm not going to give the code details away, yet. For anyone who's interested in writing their own AGI can design their own structs, flags, db structure, etc. I wrote it my way. Stayed clear of commercial sql databases by writing my own. Most coders will want to use something like mysql.

I'm not saying it will be easy for someone to write their own AGI using my code outline. The coder will have to write their own logic language, but that's not an unknown. Logic language is not a big deal. Writing an AGI is a big deal. My video will contain more than sufficient info for a software engineer to write an AGI.

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Re: Secret to AGI & ASI
« Reply #44 on: April 24, 2018, 12:37:04 am »
I'll be frank with you. You're delusional.

You may be fooling yourself about the AGI-ness of your software, but you are not fooling anyone else.

 


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