Eva Progress, from AGI to ASI

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Re: Eva Progress, from AGI to ASI
« Reply #15 on: April 24, 2018, 11:43:57 pm »
The present design that has already been implemented has obtained AGI.

Only in your head.

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Re: Eva Progress, from AGI to ASI
« Reply #16 on: April 24, 2018, 11:52:49 pm »
I recall one previous member that claimed he had a conscious machine and he contacted various people, a university professor I think one was, but they stopped replying to him. The Chinese room came up a lot.

There are so many like that we lose count. Remember that fellow early last year (or was it the year before) who was so confident in his impending success (it was all going to be finished by Christmas) that he embarked on a web marketing campaign and was all set to launch a kickstarter? Luckily he seemed to stop once he realised he was being too optimistic (to put it politely).

They all have one thing in common though, they think they're the first to have any given idea and can't accept that it has already been tried and failed. Maybe if more of these losers could actually code they wouldn't waste so much of everybody else's time. So there are hundreds like that, unreality merely being the latest (until proven otherwise), and then there is Arthur T. Murray who is in a class of his own. I expect someone will make a movie about him one day. It would make a fine subject for a tragicomedy.

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Re: Eva Progress, from AGI to ASI
« Reply #17 on: April 25, 2018, 12:06:39 am »
Yes I was thinking of that project the other day : Snasci

To me that was like saying you CAN have AGI, you just need to program it  ;D What exactly were they trying to sell ?

There is a more sinister side to things like crowd funding - totally bogus projects made to sell to people with limited understanding and money burning a hole in their pocket. Investing in scams and all that stuff. So it's always wise to be cautious.

I'm prepared to give Unreality the benefit of the doubt over his motives, but with respect I will take a lot of convincing to believe that it's what he thinks it is.

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Re: Eva Progress, from AGI to ASI
« Reply #18 on: April 25, 2018, 12:11:05 am »
I call this the Purest effect. Because I've been there.

The Purest says:
I know it all.
I am perfect.
Screw neural nets what are those.
The algorithm will actually be very simple.
I have AGI.
I am young.
I am super smart.
Yous are usually wrong.
I am the best.
I am the first.
I AM KING SCREW U! :D

Remember I said I had all the AI instructions lol? I might but...not sure now, especially with my latest findings. Rather NOW I am getting closer!

I have the real AI you don't.

:P

Big Brother is watching sshhhh. Careful.

Unreality said he made AGI in 2008 so, yet he says he hasn't implemented it yet and is just "on-paper" "plan". EXPLAIN
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Re: Eva Progress, from AGI to ASI
« Reply #19 on: April 25, 2018, 12:14:13 am »
To me that was like saying you CAN have AGI, you just need to program it  ;D

Yes that's a good one. It allows them to blame everybody else for their failures. It's our fault because we didn't share their vision.

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Re: Eva Progress, from AGI to ASI
« Reply #20 on: April 25, 2018, 12:15:58 am »
@ Lock

That was scary... it's was like ADVANCESSSS, THE KING & Beautiful Flower where actually back on the forum... shudder.

 :)
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Re: Eva Progress, from AGI to ASI
« Reply #21 on: April 25, 2018, 12:19:57 am »
it's was like ADVANCESSSS, THE KING & Beautiful Flower where actually back on the forum... shudder.

Dayam. We really need to start organizing regular video conferences so we can get all these people in a room together. Anyone interested? We could sell tickets. Or start a reality TV show franchise. The quest for artificial super duper intelligence, by amateurs.

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Re: Eva Progress, from AGI to ASI
« Reply #22 on: April 25, 2018, 12:25:02 am »
It has to be live stream though.

Korrelan you forgot my first name, it was MR.SECRETHEAVENCODE

The forum actually still says it when I view my profile.

Yeah I progress fast take that I am pro like boss on skies. I don't got time to spare. I am dedicated to 1 mission. It's AGI, to stop death and pain for all.
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Re: Eva Progress, from AGI to ASI
« Reply #23 on: April 25, 2018, 12:28:07 am »
We only have your word for it, so expect many questions and doubt...

I recall one previous member that claimed he had a conscious machine and he contacted various people, a university professor I think one was, but they stopped replying to him. The Chinese room came up a lot.

Just out of curiosity have you instilled a personality or is this something that you consider will emerge due to knowledge and awareness of self ?

I understand your reluctance to divulge much, especially regarding your recent warnings to people working on AGI.

Can I ask what it's real world knowledge is based on though ? OpenCyc or something like that ?

You mention that you converse with it like a chat bot. Are you using some kind of testing to see how it arrives at it's answers - and why are those answers a surprise or notable ?

And finally for now, if you will indulge, how are you testing that it has knowledge of self ?

I'll stop there. I hope those questions being more general in nature will find you able to respond to them.

1. I have not instilled a personality into Eva. To save her a *lot* of trouble and to significantly improve her performance I've given her a basic English --> Logical language translation routine. Also she has pattern recognition routines, the more the better, which is what evolution has given humans.

2. Limited sections of a wikipedia db, for now.

3. The majority has been a manual detailed analysis into her clusters db to analyze her ability think and figure things out.

4. Eva was given knowledge that she's attached to a terminal interface. According to her clusters she has spent considerable time thinking about that, what it means, and why she only has that ability. She has put thought into how she could obtain more abilities. She has put thought into how she compares to other lifeforms.

« Last Edit: April 28, 2018, 08:07:02 pm by unreality »

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Re: Eva Progress, from AGI to ASI
« Reply #24 on: April 25, 2018, 12:28:53 am »
Oh P.S. did you know this year is the 200th anniversary of Mary Shelly publishing Frankenstein ?  :o ;)



Interesting coincidence, if true.

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Re: Eva Progress, from AGI to ASI
« Reply #25 on: April 25, 2018, 12:31:59 am »
Unreality said he made AGI in 2008 so, yet he says he hasn't implemented it yet and is just "on-paper" "plan". EXPLAIN

No. I never said any such thing. Here's my post.

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Years ago I have an idea of how to create AI that would be comparable to humans, intellectually speaking. Not much time was spent on it until January 2017, last year. Well, at least that’s what the file timestamps say. The 1st backup file has a timestamp of Jan. 8th, 2017. The 2nd file backup timestamp is Jan. 19th, 2017. I guess we could call that the 2nd update. It was a low priority project back then. Up till Jan. 25th 2017 there were 16 updates. Then, all of a sudden there were no updates till Oct. 7th, 2017, which is when the AI project truly started picking up steam. Although surely a lot of time was spent thinking about the AI from January to October.

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Re: Eva Progress, from AGI to ASI
« Reply #26 on: April 25, 2018, 12:44:48 am »
She has put thought into how she could obtain more abilities.
She has put thought into how she compares to other lifeforms.

Code: [Select]
for i in range(1,10):
    print("I'm thinking about how to obtain more abilities.")
print("I got nothing.")
for i in range(1,10):
    print("I'm thinking about other lifeforms.")
print("I got nothing.")

Consuming electricity doesn't count as thinking.

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Re: Eva Progress, from AGI to ASI
« Reply #27 on: April 25, 2018, 12:56:23 am »
We may all laugh, but an optimism is a path to success. Sometimes we overcount ourselves, but I believe, as long as we sustain in our quest, the result would eventually show up. It seems like a phenomenon "I have it all solved" is pretty common, it is like a trap in which is easy to fall. We could all use a little bit of understanding and a little less of insulting, especially if we are newcomers. A simple: "I don't believe you", or "prove me and I'll believe" would do the job for most of us. Rotten tomatoes were never my favorite media for pointing to mistakes of others. We all do mistakes occasionally, so we may ask ourselves how do we want to be treated when we make a mistake.

We all act like Unreal has to prove us he is right because we take for granted that he is wrong. Surely that is a "normal" way of thinking because normal is what would the most people do. But it doesn't make it right.

Unreal owe us nothing, start from that. How much do we owe him? An insult?

If you want to be useful, prove the guy that he is wrong if he is really wrong.
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Re: Eva Progress, from AGI to ASI
« Reply #28 on: April 25, 2018, 01:05:52 am »
ok

here's the screenshot:
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Re: Eva Progress, from AGI to ASI
« Reply #29 on: April 25, 2018, 01:15:55 am »
LOCKSUIT read that carefully. He says he's using a computer that was made in 2008, not that he wrote the software in 2008. When you're on a limited budget it makes sense to use resources efficiently like that. Unfortunately given the volume of data that seems to be necessary to achieve anything interesting I doubt that much could be achieved with it, but we do the best we can with what we've got.

 


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