giving away a powerful method

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giving away a powerful method
« on: June 30, 2018, 09:39:50 pm »
Just say someone came up with a horribly powerful method - that guaranteed that the singularity will arise, in the form of an a.i. more efficient than us.
From what I know about methods (or recipe's) is they can be followed with any degree of prerequisite background which doesnt mean they could come up with it themselves, but can follow the method once given the secrets.

Should the maker of the recipe keep it secret, or should it be given away.  Is it too deadly to give away?  What would you do?

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Re: giving away a powerful method
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2018, 10:33:45 pm »
If you apply duck-typing to secrets, you get
Code: [Select]
secret == null  ;)
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Re: giving away a powerful method
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2018, 10:54:40 pm »
So I take it, your into the non secret keeping side of things.

I can think of a few important reasons why someone wouldnt just give it away.

a) when people learn it, then people will claim it as their own, from any country, even third world.
b) it is dangerous to know about,   the machine isnt necessarily trustworthy unless you make it trustworthy.
c) Im betting It probably isnt hard to copy,  its more of a hard to come up with type thing.

So personally, if I were to come up with something,  I probably would keep it a secret.  Its not worth the plaguerism,
and the danger everyone is put into.   

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Re: giving away a powerful method
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2018, 11:17:44 pm »
What you are really asking is... would we trust the rest of the human race to set avarice, greed, apathy, pettiness, hatred, jealousy and prejudice to one side… just this once… for the good of all…

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Re: giving away a powerful method
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2018, 12:45:15 am »
As long as "the dude" keeps it a secret,  its always decades away no matter how many decades its been. :)

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Re: giving away a powerful method
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2018, 01:28:57 am »
Life finds a way.

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Re: giving away a powerful method
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2018, 01:31:18 am »
I'd give it away. Yeah.

The singularity comes faster that way.

Who cares about fame or fortune. We'll always know it was you, who did it. You also get free tickets.
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Re: giving away a powerful method
« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2018, 02:15:29 am »
Im sure there will be methods using a similar technique but theyll be under par than the best method of its type.

So why give it away, when u can see how good everyone is, after however long it takes the hopeless bums?  There will be a few people there,  and I think the well known given away methods probably wont be as good.

The person with the best one,  should keep it a secret to let everyone make fools of themselves, a bit like the hen and the loaf of bread.  ;)

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Re: giving away a powerful method
« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2018, 02:48:16 am »
Because for all I know I may only have 20 years left lol. Mission is to get universities on board.
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Re: giving away a powerful method
« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2018, 03:57:45 am »
I'm trying for 2020.
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Re: giving away a powerful method
« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2018, 04:48:34 am »
Ranch, haven't you ever heard of the Sticky Bandits? You leave the taps on running in the house. You do much more cortical damage!
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« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2018, 05:46:26 am »
I'm trying for 2020.

yes.  2020 seems like a good cheesy year for it,  i had the thought myself!  ;D

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Re: giving away a powerful method
« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2018, 05:47:42 am »
Ranch, haven't you ever heard of the Sticky Bandits?

that sounds like a name for a porno movie.

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Re: giving away a powerful method
« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2018, 12:10:58 pm »
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when people learn it, then people will claim it as their own
Who gives a sh*t? We're all dying anyway.

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Re: giving away a powerful method
« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2018, 01:36:33 pm »
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when people learn it, then people will claim it as their own
Who gives a sh*t? We're all dying anyway.

Just cant wait for that bonker Siraj to go get his greasy hands all over what I make, no thanks - u first.