Is the "ethics" thing absolute or relative term? in General Chat

Let's assume there is a group of living beings grown up isolated from any influences from outside cultures. Will the ethics notion in this group of beings be relative to each being, or will it be something absolute which applies to all of them equally?

5 Comments | Started December 03, 2023, 12:15:47 pm

Atronach's Eye in Home Made Robots

Guess I haven't started a project thread for this one yet? Anyway, I put a bunch of work into the mechanical eyeball this year. It's been tougher to get it working perfectly than I expected (when is it not?), but I'm getting closer. Lots of photos and design discussion in the blog, so much I won't try to copy it all here:

Problems worked on this year and late last year include slack in the tendons, too much friction between ball and socket, limited range of motion and limit-of-motion sensing.

4 Comments | Started November 21, 2023, 06:39:37 pm

easy to mould hydraulic actuator in Home Made Robots

No electricity if I use a pneumatic system instead to power it.

So its a rotational bellows system,    I did have some kind of translation to rotation transform,  but it turned out I don't need it maybe.
So you wonder why don't I just pass up connection to the next actuator in series through the fulcrum? -  But! if I do it like this as extra bellows down the sides, I reduce the amount of flexability requirement and I've formulated how to make my own ceramic glue!  - IF U PM ME I might say how I made it, its really easy. (Its like glue that dries like a flexable form of glass.) so the flexability is down its alot stiff but I might be able to squeeze it into a rotational type bellow system as long as I make then angular change down enough (Make the bellow segments more acute, and have more of them, makes them easier to collapse with less flexability requirement) so the plasticizer can work for me.

This does add a slight complication that in the internal actuators that push out the hydrofluid to the legs, if I have a small compensation volume that triggers when an actuation happens to take into account the volume difference of a "conduction channel" getting its volume changed when a prior actuator has gone left or right.

I have absolute control of the actuators, but I still will have an encoder to get the absolute position (even tho its not in the machine physically), in the form of how much air is currently moving when I apply power to the actuation vessel,  the more charge, the more in the reverse direction of the actuation it was,  the less air movement, or the more pneumatic resistivity, (because its pneumatic driven hydraulics) the more the actuator is in the direction of the way I was actuating.

So its own off the amount of resistivity of the power into the actuation vessel.   which then goes to hydraulic down the arm.

I might have two internal vessels to power it,  so I supply so much left power, balanced with so much right power,  and then I should make a position between the two pushes, to make an absolute target for the actuator, with enough psi to get over the stiffness of the physical material its made from, which could be bending metal.

2 Comments | Started November 27, 2023, 09:02:27 am

Project Acuitas in General Project Discussion

Block diagram of Acuitas, the symbolic cognitive architecture:

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Since this is the post that pops up on the home page every time my thread gets bumped, I'm editing it to drop the most recent block diagram here. The info that was originally in this post, I will move into the second post of the thread.
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285 Comments | Started June 02, 2017, 03:17:30 pm

How will the OpenAI CEO being Fired affect ChatGPT? in AI News

Let's have a discussion: The recent firing of OpenAI’s CEO, Sam Altman, has sparked a lot of speculation about the future of chatbot technology. One of the products most affected by this change is ChatGPT, a natural language processing service that has been developed by OpenAI.

ChatGPT is an advanced chatbot that utilizes artificial intelligence (AI) to simulate conversation with humans. The technology uses a deep learning model called GPT-3 to generate responses. This algorithm was developed by OpenAI in 2020 and has since become one of its most successful products.

With Altman gone, many are wondering how his departure will affect ChatGPT.

First, it is important to understand that OpenAI is still committed to developing ChatGPT and other AI-driven products. Despite Altman's departure, the team at OpenAI has made it clear that they are still focused on innovating and improving the technology.

Second, Altman's departure may provide an opportunity for OpenAI to further refine their AI-driven products. Without his input, the team can take a more experimental approach to the development of their chatbot technology. This could result in new features or improvements that have not been considered previously.

Finally, the firing of OpenAI's CEO could also impact the future of the company. There is a chance that the company could pivot their focus towards other AI-driven products or even outsource parts of their development process. Whatever the case may be, OpenAI's future remains uncertain.

In conclusion, the firing of OpenAI's CEO presents both challenges and opportunities for ChatGPT and other AI-driven products. The future of these technologies is uncertain, but OpenAI is still committed to developing them in order to remain competitive in the industry.

9 Comments | Started November 18, 2023, 04:58:41 am

Reasoner.js: a framework for generalized theory synthesis in General Project Discussion

the idea

Experimentation with different custom made programming languages related to theorem proving has been one of my interests for a long time. Why theorem proving? Because it seemed like a logical step towards AI. In a meanwhile, deep learning ANNs (artificial neural networks) took over the world, and it could be a good thing. Similarity between an ANN and a theorem prover is that the starting point and ending result are the same in both cases, but the process in between is different. ANN utilizes pretty obscure weighted graph connecting input and output while theorem proving (in cases I'm considering) utilizes potentially human readable set of constructive theorems that need to be combined to connect input to output.

The theorem proving is still an area of my interest, but with addition of one missing link that ANNs seem to do pretty well (or at least in some extent). ANNs use the nowdays-all-present deep learning techniques to automatically form the connections between input and output. Analogously, the link I'm trying to explore is an alternative to deep learning in a form of automated semi-axiom construction. Here, I'm making a distinction between theorem proving and semi-axiom construction. In theorem proving, axioms need to be manually fed into the system to be used in further automated theorem construction. In semi-axiom construction, I'm seeking for a way to automatically construct semi-axioms, with semi-axioms being both axioms or theorems.

Googling around the web about this process (in 2022) gives somewhat rare and specialized results, so the space for a progress may be opened. I believe that appropriate term for the process I'm trying to explore could be "generalized theory synthesis". There are already some achievements on this process in a form of algorithm synthesis, and that is exactly direction I'm trying to head at, only applied also to theorems.

To finally explore the blurry cloud of theory synthesis and to see it in more focused features, the plan would be to fuse a selection of my existing languages, and present them in gradual form under the same language named Tricosm. The language should be applicable to theory synthesis, as well as to algorithm synthesis. In a simple example, from provided data:

input -> output
    2 -> 4
    4 -> 8
    8 -> 16
   16 -> 32

one of the generated theories (given that we already know how to handle integers and multiplication) would be:

input -> output
    x -> 2 * x


Co-rewrite takes an input file, an arbitrary metaprogram, and constructs an output file from the input file using the metaprogram. The metaprogram is actually a set of formulas similar to those in math science with the difference that the Co-rewrite formulas may transform not only math expressions, but also any kind of language expression.

It is possible to feed to Systelog a formula in a form of f(program(input) -> output) -> program where function program is being automatically constructed and returned by higher order function f, provided that we know what input -> output mappings hold.

The language goals are having minimal design, beginner friendly documentation, conveniently generating completely functional executable, multiplatform development environment, multiplatform runtime environment, and self hosting compiler.


In this thread I plan to keep a log about the progress in programming the Systelog language for which I plan to be open sourced and hosted publicly on GitHub. Of course, I'd be delighted to hear any comments or to answer any questions in the same thread.

Project homepage is at :

17 Comments | Started November 10, 2022, 10:25:26 am

Science Fiction - Nexus in General Chat

For fans of science fiction:

To my dismay, it seems like most of the science fiction being written these days is some form of space opera and alternate science fiction themes are few and far between. So, when I run across a really well written no space theme, I have to share it with others. Nexus by Ramez Naam is really terrific and better yet, it's available in audiobook format and read by an excellent narrator. The book features advances in neuroscience and genetics embedded in a US based adversarial environment to prevent dangers from new technologies.

Nexus is part of a 3 book trilogy

Started November 13, 2023, 11:40:28 pm

Independent AI sovereignties in AI News

I posted before the issue of AI not being granted patents or copyrights to work that it produces and the problems it could create. Overall government regulations could discourage the use of AI for commercial purposes. Here's a company building barges with nothing but H100 and the ships may qualify as a sovereign nation!

I also mentioned that foreign nations like Russia, China and/or the likes of Iran would not restrain AI from anything, inclusive of biological weapons. What's really funny is that the true potential of AI developing nano-technology isn't a biological weapon but a airborne virus that could pass the blood barrier of the brain and turn anyone into a Manchurian candidate or spy who doesn't even know they're a spy, I think there's a movie about that?

So now what? AIs floating the seven seas free from any regulation from the west where any diabolical genius could master mind the end of civilization as we know it. But what if the world should end in some nuclear nightmare holocaust, could such floating contraptions help humanity?

With regulation we will stifle AI, without it it's uncontrollable, damned if you do, damned if you don't...

1 Comment | Started November 08, 2023, 02:33:49 am

Pattern based NLP & ASR in General Project Discussion

This is a project I've been working on for a few years. In 2019, I tested it on Pandora Bots. This year I'm converting it to C/C++.

The main goal is to be small, fast, and white-box, instead of algorithms, knowledge, self-learning.

Broadly it works as a word and sentence compressor.

Words are matched to a pre-defined list of words in a lookup table. Matches return one 8-bit character symbol for sentence matching, and two other 8-bit symbols for context and uniqueness. [March 2023] There are 49 total word groups for the first symbol, and up to 256 for the second and third individually.

Sentences made of 4-10 one character symbols, where each symbol is 1 of 49 options, each containing hundreds to thousands of words. This means each sentence can detect hundreds of millions of sentences which contain similar meaning. These sentences are grouped and stored in a pre-defined list which compress the sentence to an intention symbol.

For a chatbot, the developer may use the one-character intentions, with multiple one-character word context in pre-defined lists to cover practically all possible spoken interactions, with a good level of attentiveness to the original sentence and a deliberate white-box response. Output can be further modified using another lookup table to output randomness in text/audio response. A good number of literal responses to cover a broad range of sentence intentions is 50-100. This makes changing chatbot personality very easy.

Size and Response times:

In 2019 in pandora bots (1000 words, 200 sentences) size is ~500kb, speed ~1 second response.
In 2020 in C on an Arm Cortex M4 @ 120mhz , total size is ~159kb, speed 15-100 ms / sentence.
In 2021 in C on a PC @ 2.6ghz with Binary Searching (set up time of 70ms), speed ~1ms / sentence.

Other chatbot features:

Total size is < 500kb including word databases.
One sentence generally takes less than 1 ms to process.
Limited chatbot responses make it easy to record an actors voice and change personality.
Private information is stripped during word compression (words that aren't in the pre-defined list are lost and non-recoverable).

Fine differentiation of intentions, eg between: Wondering, Questions, and Directions - "can you speak english" "do you speak english" "speak english".

Can count occurance of emotional words, logical words, burning-analyser words, light-sense words to reply in kind better.

For the problem of chatbots in experiences/games and/or cpu restricted platforms, it solves
Too much data or processing power required.
Cannot change the personality/no personality.
Cannot change the language/only one language.
Chatbot escaping the topic due to bad intention reading.
Chatbot returning bad views / knowledge calculation (only pre-determined responses).
Chatbot terrible voice synthesis (a voice actor can record all lines including random alternates).

64 Comments | Started May 24, 2020, 12:16:50 pm

The New Species (Project Progress) in General Project Discussion

Hi, I'm Korrelan and welcome to my AI-Dreams project page.

Project Goal
I personally believe/ know that we are each a closed box, we run a personal internal simulation of reality which we can only experience through our own senses.  We are not computers but we are bio chemical, electrical machines and as such can be simulated using conventional computer hardware.

My goal/ project has always been about understanding and recreating a neuromorphic simulation of the mammalian brain, and to create an 'alien' intelligence based on the same schema.  To build a machine that can learn anything and then teach it to be human.

Global thought pattern (GTP) theory.
The GTP is the activation pattern that is produced by electro-chemical activity within the brain/ connectome.  When a neuron fires action potentials travel down axons, electro-chemical gates regulate synaptic junctions, dopamine and other compounds are released that regulate the whole system.  Long term memories are stored in the physical structure of the connectome, short term/ working memory is represented by the current GTP pattern of activation within the connectome.

It's a symbiotic relationship, within the system the GTP defines the connectome, and the connectome guides the GTP.   The GTP is a constantly changing, morphing pattern balanced on the edge of chaos that represents the AGI's understanding of that moment in time, with all the memories, experiences and knowledge it comprises.


34 Comments | Started December 01, 2019, 11:24:30 am
Talbot, the chatbot

Talbot, the chatbot in Chatbots - English

Talbot is a free and funny chatbot, you can use it if you are bored and no friends are available to chat: he will answer you anytime and anywhere!

If you are shy, if you need some advice or just to let off steam, don't worry, Talbot is here for you: use him to chat, his humour will amaze you and will surely amuse you!
You can even ask him questions directly with your voice, thanks to the microphone button.

Understands Italian, Portuguese, English and Spanish.


May 15, 2023, 15:49:22 pm
I'm Your Man

I'm Your Man in Robots in Movies

Dr Alma Felser, an archaeologist, arrives at a dance club where an employee introduces her to Tom. Alma quizzes Tom on a complex math problem and on trivial details about his favourite poem, and he answers readily. Tom then invites Alma to dance but suddenly begins repeating himself; he is quickly carried away, revealing him to be a robot.

Oct 23, 2022, 22:10:45 pm

WIFELIKE in Robots in Movies

A grieving detective in the near future (Jonathan Rhys Meyers) hunts down criminals who trade artificial humans on the black market. In the fight to end AI exploitation, an underground resistance attempts to infiltrate him by sabotaging the programming of the artificial human assigned as his companion (Elena Kampouris) to behave like his late wife. She begins to question her reality as memories of a past life begin to surface in a world where nothing is as it seems.

Oct 17, 2022, 01:52:13 am
AI Love You

AI Love You in Robots in Movies

The film is set in a world where Artificial Intelligence (AI) controls most buildings. One such AI, named Dob, controls a corporate tower where a woman named Lana (Pimchanok Luevisadpaibul) works, falls in love with her after a software glitch. The AI then hijacks the body of a man, Bobby (Mario Maurer) and tries to win Lana's affections.

Oct 08, 2022, 07:16:50 am
Brian and Charles

Brian and Charles in Robots in Movies

Brian lives alone in a remote village in the countryside. Something of an outcast, he spends his spare time inventing things out of found objects in his garage. Without friends or family to rely on, Brian decides to build a robot for company. 'Charles' is not only Brian's most successful invention, but he appears to have a personality all of his own and quickly becomes Brian's best friend, curing his loneliness and opening Brian's eyes to a new way of living. However, Charles creates more problems than Brian bargained for, and the timid inventor has to face-up to several issues in his life; his eccentric ways, a local bully, and the woman he's always been fond of but never had the nerve to talk to.

Sep 30, 2022, 00:10:14 am
Space Sweepers

Space Sweepers in Robots in Movies

After snatching a crashed space shuttle in the latest debris chase, Spaceship Victory's crew members find a 7-year-old girl inside. They realise that she's the humanlike robot wanted by UTS Space Guard.

Sep 29, 2022, 20:24:53 pm
Robot Takeover: 100 Iconic Robots of Myth, Popular Culture & Real Life

Robot Takeover: 100 Iconic Robots of Myth, Popular Culture & Real Life in Books

In Robot Takeover, Ana Matronic presents 100 of the most legendary robots and what makes them iconic - their creators, purpose, design and why their existence has shaken, or in some cases, comforted us. Through 100 iconic robots - from Maria in Fritz Lang's Metropolis to the Sentinels of The Matrix and beyond, via the Gunslinger (Westworld), R2-D2 (Star Wars) etc. - this is a comprehensive look at the robot phenomenon. As well as these 100 entries on specific robots, there are features on the people who invent robots, the moral issues around robot sentience, and the prevalence of robots in music, art and fashion, and more. It's the only robot book you need.

With fighters, seducers and psychos in their ranks, it's best you get ready for the robot revolution.

Know your enemy...

Sep 26, 2022, 21:08:48 pm
The Mandalorian

The Mandalorian in Robots on TV

The Mandalorian is an American space western television series created by Jon Favreau for the streaming service Disney+. It is the first live-action series in the Star Wars franchise, beginning five years after the events of Return of the Jedi (1983), and stars Pedro Pascal as the title character, a lone bounty hunter who goes on the run to protect "the Child".

Sep 26, 2022, 20:45:35 pm
Lost in Space (2018)

Lost in Space (2018) in Robots on TV

Lost in Space is an American science fiction streaming television series following the adventures of a family of space colonists whose ship veers off course. The series is a reboot of the 1965 series of the same name, inspired by the 1812 novel The Swiss Family Robinson.

Sep 19, 2022, 01:04:37 am
Person of Interest

Person of Interest in Robots on TV

Person of Interest is an American science fiction crime drama television series that aired on CBS from September 22, 2011, to June 21, 2016.

The series centres on a mysterious, reclusive billionaire computer programmer, Harold Finch (Michael Emerson), who has developed a computer program for the federal government known as "the Machine", capable of collating all sources of information to predict terrorist acts and to identify people planning them.

The series raises an array of moral issues, from questions of privacy and "the greater good" to the concept of justifiable homicide and problems caused by working with limited information programs.

Sep 19, 2022, 00:52:30 am
Better Than Us

Better Than Us in Robots on TV

Better Than Us is a 2018 Russian science fiction television series created by Andrey Junkovsky about an advanced empathic android named Arisa.

The story takes place in 2029, in a world where androids serve humans in various positions, even replacing them in many menial jobs.

Sep 19, 2022, 00:38:20 am