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« on: February 08, 2015, 03:08:57 pm »
Is giving an android emotions going too far? Is the programming too complicated for humans to program and for the robot(s) to understand and act upon? How does a sentient android deal with love?

This a very interesting short film about such questions. Although a tad bit dark toward the end, keep watching after the curtain scene as the bot continues it's activities.

Different but not outside the realm of possibility if all the complexities are not considered at initial programming.



The CG Bros produce some truly amazing short animation films! IMHO.
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Re: Abe
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2015, 05:46:19 pm »
Well there are humans who have the same twisted concepts about love so maybe a mental health examination is in order before you program one.
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Re: Abe
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2015, 04:49:06 pm »
So somebody made this android that can love and have other emotions and even understand some abstract human concepts, but he couldn't understand the concept of 'wrong'?

On the other side an interesting story which helps boost all this media nonsense, but still a realistic story. We have cases of humans killing because they were not loved, so an A.I. could become one too.

An A.I. which is 'human' (thinks like one at least) has the potential to become the worst criminal and the most self-sacrificial humanitarian and philanthropist. It all depends on the environment it develops in.

Maybe we can hard-code limitations today, but we know there is a great possibility an A.I. program will grow in complexity far more then we can handle so in the future I doubt re-programming or hardcoding will be a solution to these programs.

Also note this: if you watched Automata it might have stricken you that it is, in fact, possible that androids will evolve and understand much faster then humans (it also depends on hardware - which we have the advantage in) but we couldn't really confirm this until an actual experiment takes place with a real android.
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Re: Abe
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2015, 12:07:22 am »
In case you haven't yet had a chance to read the eBook to which I earlier alluded entitled "Janice - Robot Maid" by Mike Deering, you might find some common ground with regard to said programming that can evolve or adapt.

OK...(within the story), when his new robot maid asked what he would like it to do, he simply told it to, "Clean up the house or something."

When he came home there was a LOT of things that had gotten done while he was at work!

His robot was equipped with an advanced AGI that could anticipate his desires with a high degree of success.

He (Ray) told it to "Anticipate. Take the initiative"

These commands were something that other owners never did with their bots. In other words, their commands were too confining. Kind of like turning a master carpenter loose in your workshop while you go to work and instructing him to build you a simple birdhouse or table. If, on the other hand, you simply told him to make something that you think I'd really like or be creative with some kind of table or birdhouse, you'd probably get a jaw dropper of a finished project!

It all comes down to programming as we know but within the confines of this AI / Sci-Fi eBook and many others like it, we can open our minds and be treated to new heights (if we're willing to let ourselves soar) and provided we're not grounded in technical realism of the moment.
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Re: Abe
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2015, 01:12:03 pm »
Seems like a very interesting book. I will try to find some time to read it. And yes, it also supports the idea that the development of an AI depends on its environment - it is shaped by it.
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