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Title: No virus found
Post by: Freddy on November 29, 2016, 07:08:25 pm
Locksuit suggested in a couple of topics that he might have got a virus here. Just to set minds at rest, I have checked the files and ran a virus scan and we are clean.

No one else has reported anything, so it appears he got it somewhere else.

For future reference Locksuit, please post things like this in the Forum Problems section.
Title: Re: No virus found
Post by: keghn on November 29, 2016, 09:10:25 pm
 I am guessing and speculating that malware is hacked into video apps. Youtube and Vimeo is the cleanest, in my opinion.
 Also i notice strange behavior when my computer is not used or in idle or doing a slow shutdown. That is the time when
i am not watching my processor activity or internet speed or task manager. My processor are suppose to cool  down
with no activity. bu no they are hotter.
 Must of theses video apps are on news web sites or weather web sites.
Title: Re: No virus found
Post by: kei10 on November 30, 2016, 12:54:27 am
Hmm, some people worries about viruses and malwares. Although I don't use anti virus as they slow down my computer to a slug, I haven't got any problems so far for ages -- except two cases of hijacking.

For anyone whom downloads and launches unfamiliar executable, one can use Sandboxie to create a virtual environment to contain it, so it won't mess up your computer in case of virus or attempts to install malicious software.

https://www.sandboxie.com/ (https://www.sandboxie.com/)
Title: Re: No virus found
Post by: LOCKSUIT on November 30, 2016, 11:25:51 am
Quote
Hmm, some people worries about viruses and malwares. Although I don't use anti virus as they slow down my computer to a slug, I haven't got any problems so far for ages -- except two cases of hijacking.

Looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

Man oh man I have scanned with Malwarebytes, McAfee, Cogeco, SuperAntiSpyware, Hitman Pro, and like nothing was found other than this:
http://advancessss.deviantart.com/art/885858788-648474305?ga_submit_new=10%253A1480409476 (http://advancessss.deviantart.com/art/885858788-648474305?ga_submit_new=10%253A1480409476)
And STILL when I open a tab or Google, "Secure Search" white bar scrolls down from the top!! Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
I even went through all of my programs installed.
And STILL when I click certain things like a link to a site's FAQs or Freddy's Profile or PM Freddy a scam pop up appears like with a video of a man or bell problem saying you have virus please call blahblahblah.
Since staying off the site and narrowing down, the link - pop up scams never happened, though I never tried too much, only just a minute ago today it happened once on the same lowlevelformat site when clicking a link of info on the left side see em (after going to our forum, dumb me):
http://www.lowlevelformat.info/ (http://www.lowlevelformat.info/)
The same pop ups happened when clicking Freddy's name etc on this site.
Sadly, I stayed off this site and narrowed stuffs down and should have tried that lowlevelformat etc site before returning to the forum here and possibly "getting infected again", darn!
I also checked my browser extensions.
Clueless.
But AI is easy.
Title: Re: No virus found
Post by: Data on November 30, 2016, 01:05:50 pm
I've seen browser behaviour like this recently on a customers computer.

No viruses were detected or found by antivirus software or by my knowhow.   

Reinstalling the browser didn't fix it.

Even a system restore didn't fix it.

In the end and with the limited time I had with the customer, I had to re-install windows. That fixed it, obviously.

I'm guessing that some system files were somehow changed by something nasty and because the files should be there in the OS they didn't get detected as a threat. 

That shouldn't be possible but it seemed to be the case.

Personally I'm not getting any odd behaviour from this web site and am pretty sure there is no infection here. 
Title: Re: No virus found
Post by: LOCKSUIT on November 30, 2016, 01:51:59 pm
Thing is, my laptop has windows 10. Windows 10 updates itself too like a cop. I might try browser re-install.

Well, I guess this thread is dead now...?

Later.
Title: Re: No virus found
Post by: Art on November 30, 2016, 02:21:37 pm
The other evening I was working on a program when my computer suddenly shut completely down, without warning!

Interesting. I had my computer check for updates and it found one, so I let it download and install it. How long could it take, right?

Well, over two and a half hours! No kidding...Likely longer since I actually didn't clock the download which took a painfully long time as well.

It performed several starts, shutdowns and restarts (it did warn of that and for the user to be patient). This was some Anniversary Update or similar thing by Windows to correct some issues as usual.

It finally rebooted and my speakers started making hi-pitched screams like one gets with feedback, such as volume set high and microphone too close to speaker sort of situation. I turned down the volume control on my speakers and noticed the Microphone (in-built) had been turned on by Windows.

Later that evening, I downloaded and ran a chatbot program and suddenly Windows shut completely down without warning like before. My Event viewer said the program tried to execute an illegal function call or some such and was shut down. Whether Windows did this or not remains to be seen. The computer world is getting curiouser and curiouser! O0

I've run MalwareBytes which is a great program and other than a few cookies, nothing of issue. I also run BitDefender A/V software and have for over a decade. It has caught and killed several virus attempts during those years and not one has gotten through! I also run through an external firewall. Hey I was once bitten and lost everything so no chances here!

If anyone does not use an Anti-Virus program or other form of protection while surfing, it is only a matter of time, I can assure you! I do hope you have a backup.
Title: Re: No virus found
Post by: LOCKSUIT on November 30, 2016, 10:40:54 pm
Lol yeah I use anti-virus software and backup real good, in fact my text notes on my desktop are going to soon have a folder called copies where I will make changes to both, and compare them in a program within the folder, if they are different then the CPU/HDD/etc screwed up and I will revert to last backup pair on google and make sure to save any info. Also because I have thousands of images and movies, the only way to know they are the same data and not gotten bad sectors ruined on the disk platter may be by a software to check only the folder items for if the disk platter can read from the bits.

LOL Art are you using windows 10? Me too on laptop, but windows 7 on my pc I just built! Previously XP. I want control over what OS I will have! Less programs installed etc! 10 uses lots of resources and updates automatically unless you change the "care times" thing it recently added!
Title: Re: No virus found
Post by: kei10 on November 30, 2016, 11:44:58 pm
Windows 10 updates can be disabled to manual using registry or disabling the "Windows Update" service.

As a side note, one can use browser addon "Web of trust" to ensure that one is surfing safe websites.

https://www.mywot.com/ (https://www.mywot.com/)
Title: Re: No virus found
Post by: infurl on December 01, 2016, 12:38:35 am
Web of Trust is officially corrupt and broken and is no longer to be trusted.

Google news for "web of trust" and you'll see all the reports from a few weeks ago.
Title: Re: No virus found
Post by: kei10 on December 01, 2016, 12:48:54 am
Hm, you're right. Now you mention it, web of trust addon vanished from firefox addons website. I guess I will be looking for something else...

Thank you for the heads up, infurl. :D
Title: Re: No virus found
Post by: Art on December 01, 2016, 01:45:03 am
Understand but Updates are still an important facet of ownership and staying up-to-date with regard to operations, maintenance and security, so even though some are a major P.I.T.A., I still get them and jump through a few hoops if need be.

After a completed run of MalwareBytes, it found two occurrences of an Adware.track type of malware. It was apparently "watching" every place I visited and was obviously reporting this info to some place or some "cloud" server somewhere.

Once both were removed, I rebooted and now the system's fan no longer runs in a higher more for longer than normal periods of time and the overall throughput / response time, has greatly improved. No more lagging!!

So weekly scanning with MalwareBytes and with the AV. Best time is at night when one is sleeping!

Oh yes, it mentioned that the majority of these "trackers" are often bundled together with other software, sometimes Free or Shareware. A lot of people get in a hurry for the installation and tell it yes, go ahead and install whatever you need to install! WRONG! Take time to see what is being installed before you click the OK button!  I think maybe Adobe or one of those try to install McAfee's AV software at the same time as their install. Be sure to uncheck that box before clicking OK. It's your computer. Take a moment to protect it!

Set a Restore Point in case something bad happens. Takes a couple minutes. Luck! O0
Title: Re: No virus found
Post by: Korrelan on December 01, 2016, 08:49:20 am
All excellent advice.

No one seems to have mentioned ghosting/ imaging their drives.

Once a week I create a complete image of my main servers boot drive. I use Macrioum; it makes a complete copy of your drive, operating system, everything… and provides a boot disk to reset/ reload everything back to its original state.

http://www.macrium.com/reflectfree.aspx (http://www.macrium.com/reflectfree.aspx)

I keep all my files on a separate drive from my boot partition so the disk image remains small… ish.  I tend to save the last three images and delete older ones.

So once a week… I scan everything for virus and malware.

Copy all my recent files to an external drive, so I have two copies… and then TURN OFF the external drive. This stops malware affecting this backup.

Ghost/ Image the whole boot partition and save to the external drive.

You have to consider hijack malware, they will encrypt your boot drive and all attached storage (turned on) and demand bitcoin etc.. or drive failure.

Always keep at least two copies of all your backups/ data/ drive images... on physically separate drives.

Macrium as saved my a** on a few occasions lol.

 :)
Title: Re: No virus found
Post by: Art on December 01, 2016, 12:55:00 pm
I take it similar to Norton Ghost, without all the bloat...or something like that.

More good advice as well! O0
Title: Re: No virus found
Post by: kei10 on December 01, 2016, 02:05:46 pm
I usually back up just my project and important files to an external drive. Personally I think it might be a bit too much to back up entire drive?

Nevertheless, good advises!

Thank you. ;D
Title: Re: No virus found
Post by: Art on December 01, 2016, 11:28:10 pm
Kei10,

Remember, all those programs that you might have purchased and installed. Most wrote information to the registry. That will not be copied in an ordinary backup. Those TTS voices alone would drive one crazy trying to get them back. It would require getting in touch with the original vendors, explaining your situation (hard drive crash, etc.), proving or validating that you did indeed purchase their product, then wait for approval, emails, etc. Days....
All the other registered programs that will now need to be registered again and reinstalled.

A mirror image or ghosted drive can have it all back for you in a very short time. Completely...no missing .DLL's, registry entries, etc. Just saying, there are other, more proven methods of reliably recovering one's data...and sanity!
 O0
Title: Re: No virus found
Post by: kei10 on December 01, 2016, 11:40:50 pm
I see, that makes sense.

The funny part is that I've reinstalled windows numerous of times without backing up those softwares, then I would redownload all needed softwares, install, and register them again. Most softwares I bought doesn't seem to have trouble registering. It wasn't a hassle at all, I guess I have too much time...

Since my desktop gets slower and slower over time, to the latter it would start driving me insane for not reinstalling windows to clear the mess. I have no idea how it ends up that way every time!  ;D

The ghosted drive backup would be very useful to those who wants to keep their OS intact without the need to refresh.

Thanks.  :)
Title: Re: No virus found
Post by: LOCKSUIT on December 02, 2016, 01:33:05 am
Yes win10 updates for security but they make the OS you bought "change", win7 will "be" what I bought forever~

Indeed I take a long time doing everything, always do custom install and never install bloatware.

Yep I do backups and images etc.

Yep I am going to image my newly win7 setup beforrre I add meh files.

Yep I have backups in my closet.

And yes I have my whole drive backed up, man I could never part with any one of my thousands of images/videos etc!

Other than that my important life-death secret knowledge life-saver texts/images/vids are easy to keep track of as said and compare them etc.

How to store it all! No libaries ever again! All on desktop at your eyes!
http://advancessss.deviantart.com/art/My-Advanced-Desktop-631843658?q=ADVANCESSSS%2F59829757&qo=13 (http://advancessss.deviantart.com/art/My-Advanced-Desktop-631843658?q=ADVANCESSSS%2F59829757&qo=13)

Cooooooooool!
http://advancessss.deviantart.com/art/Windows856787-648927819?ga_submit_new=10%253A1480641437 (http://advancessss.deviantart.com/art/Windows856787-648927819?ga_submit_new=10%253A1480641437)
Title: Re: No virus found
Post by: Art on December 02, 2016, 01:50:01 pm
Another great option is an External hard drive!

You can buy a 1 TB USB 3.0 drive for $54 USD or a 4 TB for $120 USD!!  / 1 TB SSD = $225 USD. / 500 GB Pocket Drive = $55 - 60 USD

That's what I use for "Server Storage" or my personal "Cloud". I trust no other person nor place for my 'goodies'.
Been bitten too many times before I suppose. Not paranoid, just cautious!

Lastly might be those Flash Drives or Thumb Drives as they offer good external / removable storage at a very inexpensive price.

Check out: http://www.pricewatch.com/ (http://www.pricewatch.com/)
Been checking their prices for many years!
Title: Re: No virus found
Post by: LOCKSUIT on December 03, 2016, 10:16:21 am
Oh and use Exactfile to create a checksum for all your files and make sure all bytes are da same.
Title: Re: No virus found
Post by: Korrelan on December 03, 2016, 02:43:41 pm
A few of my 70+ backup drives accumulated over the years.

AGI research takes up a lot of drive space lol.

(http://i.imgur.com/AaQmgrV.jpg)

:)
Title: Re: No virus found
Post by: LOCKSUIT on December 03, 2016, 02:59:59 pm
Got a few spare drives to send me? I only have 5 in my room.

Btw GPU can be used greatly with CPU for big through-put since parrel.
Title: Re: No virus found
Post by: Art on December 03, 2016, 05:04:37 pm
You took some of those from my closet didn't you?  ;)

Most of mine are probably for Windows 2.0 or was Windows even around then? Hmm...
Title: Re: No virus found
Post by: LOCKSUIT on December 06, 2016, 08:07:21 pm
Hehe I bet Korrelan's 70+ drives and Art's are 4GB USB sticks from the 80s pfffft.

Just the 5 in my room are 2TB HDDs. - My old pc, my first backup, my next, a spare now, and my new pc I built myself ! Of course I have free money and all the time in the world and can do whatever the hell I want.

Then there's there 1/more downstairs?, my laptop, my mom's, a free computer, an old mother, a few USB sticks, and probably more. All the game consoles probably have 2.6 billion transistor processors in them.
Title: Re: No virus found
Post by: Korrelan on December 06, 2016, 08:31:31 pm
Yeah well... My dads bigger than your dad... And my dad will kick your dads a**.

And... This is my ball... And I'm taking it home... I'm not playing anymore.

 :)
Title: Re: No virus found
Post by: Freddy on December 06, 2016, 08:34:47 pm
 :D

Yup - I didn't think this was a competition.

I don't know if I can be bothered to take photos of my old and spare parts cupboard  ;D
Title: Re: No virus found
Post by: LOCKSUIT on December 06, 2016, 08:36:30 pm
You're not gonna want to meet my grandpa...
Title: Re: No virus found
Post by: Freddy on December 06, 2016, 08:38:24 pm
Well you can't meet either of mine...
Title: Re: No virus found
Post by: LOCKSUIT on December 06, 2016, 08:49:43 pm
Ok guys settle down, I was only meaning to play/joke with korrelan + others.

get back to work
Title: Re: No virus found
Post by: Freddy on December 06, 2016, 09:17:11 pm
Too much late night work lately, I'm off for a coffee  :read:
Title: Re: No virus found
Post by: LOCKSUIT on December 06, 2016, 10:01:01 pm
Oh also use ExactFile to make sure your data is the same 1s & 0s on all your drives. Backing up doesn't mean the data will be the same. ExactFile creates checksums that do detect even 1 pixel shade change.
Title: Re: No virus found
Post by: kei10 on December 06, 2016, 10:03:27 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/fJCCeCE.png)
Title: Re: No virus found
Post by: LOCKSUIT on December 06, 2016, 10:12:55 pm
I don't understand kei, do you mean the topic or the concept? We have indeed been talking about safe backup security strategies. While the concept or reply explaining the strategy/program is clear.
Title: Re: No virus found
Post by: infurl on December 06, 2016, 11:00:08 pm
If you are serious about data integrity you should be using ZFS and some flavour of Unix, however ZFS can also be used in conjunction with Windows. Although ZFS needs some fairly powerful hardware to run it effectively (8GB of RAM is the minimum), most new systems would meet the requirements nowadays.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZFS

It makes it very easy to set up a hot swappable array of disks. Every block of data is fingerprinted, it has extremely efficient on-the-fly compression, and you can specify a minimum (or maximum if using automatic de-duplication) number of copies of any given data item. It will automatically distribute the copies across the available devices and it will automatically detect and repair data faults.
Title: Re: No virus found
Post by: LOCKSUIT on December 06, 2016, 11:39:30 pm
What if CPU screws up - all hard drives will get the same mess. Better to write one note, then do it again to the other copy! Also I don't want more noise/heat etc in my pc so it's ok. Of course there is probably a more better way I can possibly easily achieve for 100% intergrity ex. 2 CPUs w 2 HDDs with liquid nitrogen w sound proofing but what I'm doing is good enough it's ok.
Title: Re: No virus found
Post by: infurl on December 06, 2016, 11:51:18 pm
The systems I'm using typically have 30 or 40 CPU cores, 800GB of RAM and many terabytes of SSD storage, so your mileage may vary.
Title: Re: No virus found
Post by: Freddy on December 07, 2016, 12:51:10 am
I'm just happy with my external drive  :D

I've tried a few things over the years. CDRW - some I have that are over a decade old still work. Then there's the cloud services if you feel okay that the stuff you store there is going to be safe - things like bookmarks and research notes maybe - that are only useful to yourself - certainly not private things.
Title: Re: No virus found
Post by: Art on December 07, 2016, 02:00:17 am
@ Freddy...couldn't have said it much better!

I rely on my external HD to keep personal files, records, various forms, medical, business, etc. I'm not about to trust putting all that information on someone else's hard drive somewhere (who knows exactly where), and hope that the Sysop is a trusting, honest soft of person)...Yeah...right.   Been there, done that before!

Nope, and it matters not the info that you have entrusted. After all, it's YOUR information and if it's lost, corrupted, infected or phished...well, then it's a bit too late.

Given the really low cost of external drives one would really have to think twice about not having one for backup, storage, security, peace of mind.

Check prices at: www.pricewatch.com (http://www.pricewatch.com) for Hard Drives and practically any other computer related items. I've been using that site for years as a guide before I choose to purchase a product.