[goaty]

Only the skeptics are still safe in their little delusional safety blanket.

[Art]

There are a hundred thousand million stars in the Milky Way alone, let alone the millions upon millions of other galaxies with possibly a hundred thousand million stars within them.

Given the distance to our nearest star, Proxima Centauri is 4.24 light years away. If we could use gravitational slingshot maneuvers as we did in the 1980s by using Saturn and Jupiter, we could reach speeds of 38,000 mph. If we did this it would still take us 2,500 human generations or 76,000 years!!

So doing the math, even within our own humble galaxy, we humans would never realize anything beyond our own backyard so-to-speak.

Perhaps beings on other far-distant planets have already headed off to the great beyond, but in other directions than our tiny planet. Deep thinking for sure.

[goaty]

Yes,  its a very long way... a horribly depressing long way.

[Art]

And yet, there is the possibility that beings on some distant planet, several quadrillion light years from us are pondering whether there could be life on another planet somewhere. Hmm... And it makes me wonder...

[Korrelan]

If the multiple universe theories are correct, we just need to be able to jump to a universe/ reality where we have already travelled the distance, have a look around and jump back lol.

 

[HS]

Yes,  its a very long way... a horribly depressing long way.

For now. But if we figure out functional immortality through AI, and if we build kickass spaceships, it could be an awesome journey! Alpha Centauri here we come!

[Korrelan]

And... If were only conscious for 1 second every 1000 years... we can be there in 76 seconds... cool.

 

[HS]

But that wouldn't give us the opportunity to chat on "FTL Dreams". It would be worth it to hear Locksuits theories!

[goaty]

And... If were only conscious for 1 second every 1000 years... we can be there in 76 seconds... cool.

 

that reminds me of something about light speed changing the speed of time.

[OllieGee]

Well, this could be solved with technologies we have yet to discover, perhaps with the likes of Graphene and other breakthrough fuels to propel ourselves to such incredible speeds.
But you don't always have to travel to learn, think of the late great Stephen Hawkin, he couldn't move a muscle but managed to travel the vast distances of space with his research way beyond the many with fully functioning bodies...
 

[LOCKSUIT]

you can have years of thinking in a second too, using optical computing in a thin matter network!

[Korrelan]

 

[AndyGoode]

Korellan,

I haven't had a chance to see The Nimitz Encounters, but I keep hearing about it, so I'll get to it soon. For other people who don't have much time, the following is a 2-hour video to add to your "to watch" list.  I did listen to the entire video below (while doing other work), and it is very convincing along the lines of what I believe The Nimitz Encounters proposes: that the Fermi paradox is a non-paradox that failed decades ago because alien life is in fact already here, but that fact is simply kept quiet, basically for political reasons. Keep in mind that it's a lot easier for someone to tell a lie than to build advanced machinery to detect alien life, so the "lie hypothesis" wins by Occam's Razor. 

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Joe Rogan Experience #1315 - Bob Lazar & Jeremy Corbell
PowerfulJRE
Published on Jun 20, 2019

[Zero]

Given the distance to our nearest star, Proxima Centauri is 4.24 light years away. If we could use gravitational slingshot maneuvers as we did in the 1980s by using Saturn and Jupiter, we could reach speeds of 38,000 mph. If we did this it would still take us 2,500 human generations or 76,000 years!!

Thank you for doing the math I didn't know we could reach the nearest star within 76000 years. Long time, but it would still make sense to send something in this direction I think. That something would be an AGI of course!

I hope we're going to the moon again. I keep watching TV docs about Apollo 11 again and again. 8 Days: To the Moon and Back (2019) is really awesome.

[manases]

So because we are not seeing self-replicating machines this means there is no life?

This theory ignores the acceleration of progress and a lot of other concepts.
Once you have AI,  gene manipulation, computer to the brain, who says what will we discover? That could be like the second human evolution - more like a revolution.

What if we discover FTL?
What if we build self-replicating machines that are undetectable?
What if there are advanced alien civilizations waiting for us to reach a certain level of advancement? Like the AI to brain revolution? And then they will contact us and share their knowledge.
What if we advance after we launch the self-replicating machines and decide to recall them? So let's say that we do build them, we launched them and then in a few thousand years we make huge advancements and we find everything the drones could tell us. We will recall them to cleanup the mess.

This theory of missing the self-replicating machines is very conservative - it predicts future thinking with the mindset of the present.
It is like in the past, they thought about aliens building bases big as a galaxy. But that is wrong because the more advanced, the more minified a technology will be.

I am surprised as to how many ppl appreciate this vid.