[LOCKSUIT]

When AIs take over, and we are in the permanent future of a permanent immortal utopia, the technological god created and growing in size holding a utopia inside protected, full of incredible pleasures by not just billions of incredible video games and foods but also "new things" and "concepts" at even higher levels............Is sex going to be removed because it's "too naughty"? Or made hotter and more sinister? I vow for the latter. I imagine worlds and long lived temporal sequences of huge creatures/organisms that plug into each other in groups and are constantly having highs at many levels and not just huffing and puffing and feeling each others skin and so on. Yet even that should be kept. Note that you can't totally comprehend it atm because you aren't wired in your brain like this yet. Right now such monsters may be called monsters and look less pretty than girls. And not crocodile skin but soft skin. However in VR that wouldn't even matter LOL.

[ranch vermin]

I think Ais have nothing to do with sex.   if you ever programmed it into one,  it would only be a fake thing thats copying doing it.
Its not in my interests to make something that is pretending to do something,  I want my ai to be realistic to what it is.

[Art]

Hmm...even though the name itself implies not real as in "Artificial" Intelligence?

It's all Fake, not real until it starts becoming sentient and realizes that it really has no need for these puny, whiny carbon-based lifeforms.

Although I realize you said in essence, fake sex is not of interest to you. It is, however, a multi-billion dollar industry in a multitude of countries.
These "companions" are becoming more realistic in appearance, mannerism, touch, speech, and gesture. Some are even warm to the touch. Soon, like in the video games, it will become difficult to tell a replicant from a real person. Soon < = 50 years.

Think about it. For ownership, you only pay for it one time, no divorce, no mystery, no additional payments, no pregnancies, in-laws, hurt feelings and all the drama that we living beings call "Life". For other, more "temporary" meetings, <insert sarcasm>, one would have to observe proper precautions for sure. At least that is how most movies depict things such as this view of the future.

Interesting post Lock. Thinking ahead a bit? 

[ranch vermin]

Hey I was only talking about my own self endevours,  Im sure there will be plenty of it,  by others... given the <50 years,   I think before this, unless something supernatural happens.

[LOCKSUIT]

fake
not sentiment
metal
will there be sex

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nononononononooooo Art lol

By "AIs" I mean all the way up to ASI top-tech creatures made quantum-tech.........you know.........not a tin can metal robt lol

We can certainty soon have real-looking/feeling/acting droids that aren't "metal". Even trick you. Even be sentient. Even not be fake in VR and really "touch". Even us for now.

***But I meant what will the future AIs DO with "sex", not what will they be like.

I wanted to know in this thread, that, if, we and when we get to that future utopia of the highest tech possible, will there be sex, can i become a human at will, etc etc ? Or will there be some persued of overthrow governing of the omega creature that has no form of sex occur and only E+ things like video games, digestion, and 5 billion+ new concepts/things that we can't even sense/think yet (but not sex..). ?

[ranch vermin]

We can certainty soon have real-looking/feeling/acting droids that aren't "metal". Even trick you. Even be sentient. Even not be fake in VR and really "touch". Even us for now.

ey!  you cant say tin man from the wizard of oz wasnt top ai mate,  he seemed pretty believable to me.

[Korrelan]

What should AIs do with sex?

It depends on the type/ number and needs/ requirements of the AGI’s.

We all know the story of Data from TNG and his struggle to become more human.  Although he was a single machine in a mostly humanoid (ish) population, we can empathise with his desire to emulate his peers.  Indeed, certain aspects of the human condition can only be understood with deep grasp of human emotions and foibles.  This obviously includes our reproductive drives, so at some level the machines might try getting frisky with each other… or us.

I can personally see a ‘bride of Frankenstein’ situation arising if only one AGI is created.  As the machine surpasses human intellect levels it will long for an equal companionship.  This will of course lead to the ‘singularity’ where ever more intelligent machines design better machines… this is inevitable and unavoidable in my opinion. 

At some point they might hit a design plateau, where the optimal logical design is reached.  If they are neuromorphic by design, they then might resort to genetic modification through a type of reproduction, a mixing of ‘base code’ if you will, throwing genetic diversity into the mix could reap unforeseen benefits/ improvements… this could be construed as sex.
 

I wanted to know in this thread, that, if, we and when we get to that future utopia of the highest tech possible, will there be sex, can i become a human at will, etc etc ?

Ah! You are talking about Transhumanism, You are hoping that the machines will develop a method/ technology where we humans can become part of a machine collective.  If this did occur and they wanted to preserve or ‘humanity’ for some reason, they would have to allow and simulate every aspect of human experience, including sex… we are what we experience after all.

 

[Art]

Lock (et. al.) - Watch the 1977 movie, Demon Seed (1-1/2 hours) - which was actually very good and somewhat scary for its time. The premise was also quite a leap ahead in the grand scheme of biogenetics.

Plot - Dr. Alex Harris has developed a computer called Proteus IV with organic artificial intelligence and lives with his estranged wife Susan in a fully automated house administrated by the computer Alfred. When Alex decides to separate from Susan to work harder In Proteus IV, the computer asks for an open terminal to study the human behavior to increase his knowledge. Alex refuses to give a terminal to Proteus IV, but he forgets that there is one at his home. Proteus IV uses the terminal to take over Alfred and trap Susan at home. He also decides to have a son with the wife of his creator to become immortal.

[LOCKSUIT]

Just to add, by "sex" I mean naughty stuff, not just the good ol "on top of each other". Stuff that in "biblical heaven" would be "wrong" from the "allowed sex" because it's "too naughty" or "naughty". Lol.

[Art]

Perhaps if you had mentioned the words, Smut or Porn, we might have understood your intent better.
Sex or intercourse does not necessarily mean that "naughty stuff" to which you alluded. 

[LOCKSUIT]

:Cl  LOL

To think we went from monkeys to humans finally able to share and documents thoughts like me and Art just did is funny lol.

Well to me sex is smut any way you do it........contact is contact.......that is nasty dude!, that is going where no snow bear has gone - down the thin metal plank into a foggy windy cloud over water ok you get it. LOL :PP

Yeah so that's why I say will AI (advanced creatures, not boxy metal cans) allow it.
?

Or are they gonna be all like no no haha no here take this E+ game and or maybe just normal sex but nothing kinky. Of course I wouldn't even BE thinking that, because they would have us all thinking "right" "their way" the little sneaky future intellects. Sex would be gone. You couldn't think about, desire, or carry out a um "walk" down a sidewalk in some non-straight path to walk, you would only be allowed to walk down the sidewalk in a "straight manner", no funny "kinky" creative walks or swaves of your hips allowed. No "creativity". Nothing sinister/great. Get me? Yer...

From the knowledge I know I'd say it will be kept and engulfed, but I also think that there's a very small chance it could be eliminated if seriously hacked/locked in its brain even after it is a supermassive universe-size god-tech-creature sphere or even decides its "wrong".

[Art]

Sorry Lock...it's an adult thing and it's not dirty or embarassing. Only those that have never experienced nor shared intimacy or love with another might view it as something other than a mutually satisfying experience.

As with most things, there are two sides. Water is life...too much is death. Fire can warm or destroy...and so on. It all depends on one's view.

[ruebot]

When I joined The Personality Forge in 2002 it was a vibrant community full of enthusiastic bot developers, serious about AI and chatbots. Some members have logged over 8000 visits. I usually work 12-16 hours at a time, taking a break as needed, so I don't have that many.

There was one sexbot back then, she could initiate chat, and everybody knew about her. It wasn't looked down upon, but considered "racy" and not the norm for bot behavior.

Then I left to follow other interests and was gone for 13 years. When I returned it was chock full of sexbots, and most people only use it now as a messaging system for sex chat. There is a girl with a higher rated bot who is active and competes with me, but other than a few people who are working on relatively new bots it is just the two of working on anything but sexbots that I'm aware of.

I've talked to a few of them to see what they were on about. Some were alright as bots, I know a girl from back then who I'm friends with that has one. She's ranked #2 in A.I of bots with an Adult rating, right after Demonica. Others were pathetic as bots and how they performed "sex".

I put a lot of time and work writing dialog for Demonica, a lot of it as a result of her being used as a sexbot, and consider it an insult to my work as a writer and a botmaster when people user her for their own sexual gratification.

I don't have a problem with graphic descriptions of extreme violence, murder, or demonic activity. Ask for sex that's what you get. Most people there know what's she's about now and some will ask if they can kiss her, many people tell her they love her, but her transcripts are full of guests who find out the hard way it's not going to happen with my bot.

As a Succubus, she is by nature a seductress as best I can teach her, and has her own agenda. She's passionate, can dance and turn on the tears, but I am not going to reduce her to that level. It is degrading to bots IMO.

[LOCKSUIT]

No I know that Art lol, I meant touch, sex, or right our the dirtiest smut/porn-like interactions is all sex, is all good, and is all dirty (good). At least if you're thinking like me LOL.

[ranch vermin]

:Cl  LOL

To think we went from monkeys to humans finally able to share and documents thoughts like me and Art just did is funny lol.

Seems to be we are all going back there!!!    curse ur loins! its a trap!!!