Atomic thoughts

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Atomic thoughts
« on: December 28, 2015, 03:35:24 pm »
If you consider different world languages, you'll conclude that all of them share the same syntax and semantic elements: subject, verb, object, ... It is possible that languages are not developed from the same historical origin, but independently in different parts of the world, as we were apart from other continents and cultures. It is also possible that different human races developed from different animal species, which also makes it odd the fact that all languages share the same structure.

That would mean that all different cultures came up with the same structure needed for communication.

Thinking further, this communication pattern could be stored in our DNA, as a part of our instinct. It might mean that animals also use the same subject-verb-object thinking process, although they are not synchronized among other animals like humans are among themselves (we use the same words for the same objects and actions).

And if communication structure is not a result of the plain human intelligence, but a result of DNA development, where does it put the Mother Nature? A linguist? A very intelligent linguist that knows exactly how to make natural intelligence? A form of intelligent being who knows exactly how to process natural languages?

Does intelligence come out all by itself out of existence of the Universe? Is natural language processing interwoven in stars?

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Re: Atomic thoughts
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2015, 11:30:14 pm »
If you consider different world languages, you'll conclude that all of them share the same syntax and semantic elements: subject, verb, object, ... It is possible that languages are not developed from the same historical origin, but independently in different parts of the world, as we were apart from other continents and cultures. It is also possible that different human races developed from different animal species, which also makes it odd the fact that all languages share the same structure.

That would mean that all different cultures came up with the same structure needed for communication.

Thinking further, this communication pattern could be stored in our DNA, as a part of our instinct. It might mean that animals also use the same subject-verb-object thinking process, although they are not synchronized among other animals like humans are among themselves (we use the same words for the same objects and actions).

And if communication structure is not a result of the plain human intelligence, but a result of DNA development, where does it put the Mother Nature? A linguist? A very intelligent linguist that knows exactly how to make natural intelligence? A form of intelligent being who knows exactly how to process natural languages?

Does intelligence come out all by itself out of existence of the Universe? Is natural language processing interwoven in stars?

Nice theory but DNA proves that not only are we from the same stock but that we almost went extinct at one point in our history.
See http://www.scientificamerican.com/podcast/episode/when-humans-almost-died-out-earthy-10-08-12/ for refrience to that point.
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Re: Atomic thoughts
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2015, 11:33:57 pm »
Ahh but does it...
A tribe found in south America, has a totally different DNA .... Does that make them a new species of human or just unmixed like most of us are

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Re: Atomic thoughts
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2015, 01:18:29 am »
Monkeys can learn the sign language, so animals should be included too maybe.

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Re: Atomic thoughts
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2015, 02:05:04 am »
Regarding languages. That is some interesting thinking moony - even got me thinking hard about it (i have trouble focusing lately). I guess it would seem that way because we explore events and entities around us we can basically see three patterns (think like a caveman):


 1. Thing;
 2. Thing doing something;
*3. <adjective> thing.


*-I am unsure if this is a basic pattern.


So in the nature one caveman can observe, stuff either happens or exists. This is why it would be a logical consequence that two main types of words emerge in the future - one that describes the stuff and the other that describes the actions, events. And all tribes see the same pattern in nature therefore all tribes create a language based on the same principle.


1. Noun
2. Verb
3. *Adjective


The rest of the words such as prepositions, connectors etc. are just something that fills the gap to help make sense and order of the main words, so all tribes would probably come up with this solution. The adjective is also a way to differentiate similar objects (blue ball, red ball...) however it is not exactly some principle observable in nature.


I would really like to explore this in a more realistic way however I doubt I will ever decide to devote to this topic. On the other hand I might, given I have the chance to study extraterrestrial languages and their history.

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Re: Atomic thoughts
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2015, 08:21:28 am »
Ahh but does it...
A tribe found in south America, has a totally different DNA .... Does that make them a new species of human or just unmixed like most of us are

are you aware of just how closely humans are related to each other? The differences are so small that even dog breeds are farther apart genetically then we are. The few difference found are due to interbreeding with archaic humans such as the Denisovan and neanderthal's.
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