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Re: Is this the photo you're seeing?
« Reply #30 on: December 18, 2016, 02:19:24 am »
I was erasing each word so I knew what I was done scanning.

My small system does all it does like a human brain (but not special system like this appears to be).

And so, what does it do?? Where does input go? Where is the rewards?
What can't it do?
Does it just hold info?

I noticed it works with events, time, language, physics, entities, etc.
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Re: Is this the photo you're seeing?
« Reply #31 on: December 18, 2016, 03:00:42 am »
And so, what does it do?? Where does input go? Where is the rewards?
What can't it do?
Does it just hold info?

Now that you're asking some smarter questions I'll make more of an effort to help you understand it. That diagram is just a map of a thing called a knowledge base. It shows the hierarchy of classes in the SUMO knowledge base. A class is a type of thing. You can have another class that is a more specialised type of the first thing. e.g. the class of animals and the class of cats which is a subclass of animals. All the subclasses of animals have in common the attributes of animals, but add some special features like whiskers or claws or flippers.

Just like maps of the world, you can have different kinds of maps that show different aspects of the same thing. For example what that map doesn't show is the containment hierarchy of the knowledge base. The containment hierarchy describes how things make up other things. For example, a normal cat would have four legs. Legs aren't a kind of cat so they're not a subclass of cat (but cat legs could be a subclass of animal legs) they are parts of a cat.

To see the entire knowledge base you would have to look at the source code. It's hundreds of thousands of lines of code written in a dialect of a language called KIF (Knowledge Interchange Format). The source code includes everything, but it can be easy to get lost in the details, that's why it's helpful to generate maps so we can find our way around more easily. The diagrams don't contain all the information that's needed for the software, they are just an aid to understanding.

Some kinds of maps have a start (inputs) and a finish (rewards) but not this one. This is like a map of the roads of a city which tells you where you can and can't go. This map tells you what can and can't be true. The knowledge base describes knowledge in such a way that you can use it to evaluate new knowledge.

If someone tells the AI something, the AI can translate what it has been told into KIF, and then see if it is in the knowledge base already. If it is in the knowledge base already then it "knows" it is true. If it isn't in the knowledge base, then the AI can check to see if it contradicts anything that is in the knowledge base already. If there is a contradiction then the AI "knows" that the new fact is false. Suppose that the new fact isn't in the knowledge base and it doesn't contradict anything that is already in the knowledge base? Then the new fact could be added to the knowledge base and that's how the AI learns.

There is no guess work or approximation or even magic involved. KIF and SUMO together allow you to perform calculations with knowledge in exactly the same way you would perform arithmetic with numbers.

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Re: Is this the photo you're seeing?
« Reply #32 on: December 18, 2016, 03:22:02 am »
Yes I have recently researched databases a bit.

The core of my AI system actually is a dynamic hierarchical system and so it would do the same thing as input comes in.
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Re: Is this the photo you're seeing?
« Reply #33 on: December 18, 2016, 03:35:05 am »
Yes I have recently researched databases a bit.

There's a substantial difference between databases and knowledge bases. This is a knowledge base. There is an even bigger gulf between "researching a bit" and spending decades working with the technology full-time, which is what I have done and continue to do (both databases and knowledge bases).

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The core of my AI system actually is a dynamic hierarchical system and so it would do the same thing as input comes in.

But the question remains, just how would it do that? It won't happen by itself, and it won't happen by magic. Somebody has to program it and while you're waving your arms around and foolishly claiming to have invented it, somebody else already has.

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Re: Is this the photo you're seeing?
« Reply #34 on: December 18, 2016, 03:49:28 am »
Well the hierarchical system in mine is unique and only what we have exactly, soooo, nobody invented it yet. But I'd be glad if society did have it though.
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Re: Is this the photo you're seeing?
« Reply #35 on: December 18, 2016, 04:13:08 am »
Well the hierarchical system in mine is unique and only what we have exactly, soooo, nobody invented it yet.

Even if you had got out there and found and read and understood every published research paper you still wouldn't know that it's unique because not everything is published. Furthermore, until you have implemented it yourself and proven that it works, you can't even claim to have invented it yourself. This is just hubris on your part and I can tell you right now that it is getting in the way of anything that you might accomplish. Until you have the maturity and intelligence to sit down and research and build on the work of others, everything you do really will be a pointless waste of time. It won't even be fun for long, because pretty soon you'll realise that you're getting nowhere and it would be a real shame if you gave up at that point, like so many others in your position have done already.

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Re: Is this the photo you're seeing?
« Reply #36 on: December 18, 2016, 03:31:46 pm »
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Even if you had got out there and found and read and understood every published research paper you still wouldn't know that it's unique because not everything is published.

Furthermore, until you have implemented it yourself and proven that it works, you can't even claim to have invented it yourself. This is just hubris on your part and I can tell you right now that it is getting in the way of anything that you might accomplish.

Until you have the maturity and intelligence to sit down and research and build on the work of others, everything you do really will be a pointless waste of time. It won't even be fun for long, because pretty soon you'll realise that you're getting nowhere and it would be a real shame if you gave up at that point, like so many others in your position have done already.

intelligence to sit down and research

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until you have implemented it

sums your post up

Do understand though that I am very intelligent, sit down lots, and research big time. And no matter what anyone says, I call myself a advanced researcher/neuroscientist/ulto-mega-knowledge-cloud-majiggy.
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Re: Is this the photo you're seeing?
« Reply #37 on: December 18, 2016, 03:57:41 pm »
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Even if you had got out there and found and read and understood every published research paper you still wouldn't know that it's unique because not everything is published.

Furthermore, until you have implemented it yourself and proven that it works, you can't even claim to have invented it yourself. This is just hubris on your part and I can tell you right now that it is getting in the way of anything that you might accomplish.

Until you have the maturity and intelligence to sit down and research and build on the work of others, everything you do really will be a pointless waste of time. It won't even be fun for long, because pretty soon you'll realise that you're getting nowhere and it would be a real shame if you gave up at that point, like so many others in your position have done already.

intelligence to sit down and research

and

until you have implemented it

sums your post up

Do understand though that I am very intelligent, sit down lots, and research big time. And no matter what anyone says, I call myself a advanced researcher/neuroscientist/ulto-mega-knowledge-cloud-majiggy.

I'm pretty much done with these...



Locksuit, please stop that kind of behavior to make others feel discontent, which in turn sparks up derailed subjects that could give others trouble. You've been warned before.

We get it, you're the greatest.

I would advice everyone to never bother respond to anything that relates to his "Oh I'm the greatest" replies. It's just endless beating dead horses.

Ironically I have to make this post to give everyone a heads up.

Peace!  O0
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Re: Is this the photo you're seeing?
« Reply #38 on: December 18, 2016, 04:44:21 pm »
But I was only saying what I do man, don't get alarmed or hurt. The only thing I haven't done in that post above is the line saying "implement to prove".
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