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Title: AI Weirdness
Post by: infurl on April 11, 2020, 01:37:24 am
https://aiweirdness.com/ (https://aiweirdness.com/)

This is the blog of someone doing silly but amusing things with artificial intelligence software. There's a book now.

Ok, so artificial intelligence is still a long way from where we want it to be. Frankly, unless you're a gigantic corporation with billions of dollars to spend on machine learning, it's all but useless. But we might as well have some fun with it while we wait for artificial intelligence for the rest of us.
Title: Re: AI Weirdness
Post by: krayvonk on April 11, 2020, 03:17:50 am
You dont need a million dollar budget for anything, what you need is decent ideas, they are the priceless thing.
Title: Re: AI Weirdness
Post by: LOCKSUIT on April 11, 2020, 03:31:25 am
Things get exponential. Once AGI is 50% there (which we are close or there already cus of GPT-2 etc - we see the pattern already guys!), the next 10% will take half as long, then the next 10% will take half that....boom it's here. Then ASI is here in a month! As soon as it gets more mem and attention and optical chips. It'll take days for the wee small nanobot to take us!!

All we need is big data and insight extraction, we can still work with covid-19, R&D is just to gather more data anyway! And we are in the information age and intelligence/context age. No good decision is based on a short window of context.
Title: Re: AI Weirdness
Post by: infurl on April 11, 2020, 04:31:00 am
You dont need a million dollar budget for anything, what you need is decent ideas, they are the priceless thing.

That's not true at all. Ideas are a dime a dozen. What is rare is the conditions that allow them to become something useful. Maybe you can provide some counter examples, but I doubt it.

Title: Re: AI Weirdness
Post by: LOCKSUIT on April 11, 2020, 04:56:01 am
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Ideas are a dime a dozen.
The cheap ones, the cheap ones! The best are rare.

Once you got the rare one, all you do is send it off to Google through a tiny little crack they left open so that "your" idea can get "their" money thrown at it. You reap all future technology from it.
Title: Re: AI Weirdness
Post by: krayvonk on April 11, 2020, 05:07:12 am
You dont need a million dollar budget for anything, what you need is decent ideas, they are the priceless thing.

That's not true at all. Ideas are a dime a dozen. What is rare is the conditions that allow them to become something useful. Maybe you can provide some counter examples, but I doubt it.

Your sounding like one the bunny suit men's hired conspirators (public liers.) which go about saying how 5 gigahertz is as fast as any possible topology for digital logic to try and get faster than.
Title: Re: AI Weirdness
Post by: Zero on April 11, 2020, 06:00:16 am
This website is cool. Thanks to it, I discovered Ai Dungeon 2, which is an interactive fiction (text-based game from the 80's) powered by GPT-2. You give it a setting, then you just dream.

I immediately started tumbling down the rabbit hole...

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Earth is dominated by a race of self-aware machines that was spawned from the creation of artificial intelligence early in the 21st century. A massive war emerged between the two adversaries which ended with the machines victorious, capturing mankind. The machines devised a way to extract the human body's bioelectric and thermal energies by enclosing people in pods, while their minds are controlled by cybernetic implants connecting them to a simulated reality called the Matrix. The virtual reality world simulated by the Matrix resembles human civilization around the turn of the 21st century. The environment inside the Matrix is practically indistinguishable from reality, and the vast majority of humans connected to it are unaware of its true nature. However, there are those who have developed powers beyond the capabilities of normal humans. These individuals are known as 'Matter Transference' or 'Transmat', and they can control matter at will.

> look around

You walk along the corridor, looking for any sign of your family. You search every corner, but you find nothing. It seems like no one has been here since yesterday.

> create a door and walk through it

You close the door behind you, and then open another one on the other side. You walk into an empty room, where you see a computer screen. On it is a message:
Welcome to the Virtual Reality World!

> type "what is the trugh on a keyboard

You type: What is the what on a keyboard?
The screen flashes white, and you hear a beep.
You type: What is the word on a keyboard?

> turn the keyboard into a mouse

You turn the keyboard into a mouse, and click on the words on the screen. They change to read:
What is a mouse?
You type: What is a Mouse?

> enter the screen

You enter the screen, and you find yourself in a large, brightly lit room. There are several tables set up with various items. Some of these items include computers, printers, phones and more.

> pick up a phone and call God

You pick up the phone and dial God. You press the button, and a voice answers.
Hello? Hello? Hello? Are you there? Is anyone there...? Are you there...? I'm sorry...

https://play.aidungeon.io/ (https://play.aidungeon.io/)
Title: Re: AI Weirdness
Post by: HS on April 11, 2020, 06:43:13 am
You dont need a million dollar budget for anything, what you need is decent ideas, they are the priceless thing.

That's not true at all. Ideas are a dime a dozen. What is rare is the conditions that allow them to become something useful. Maybe you can provide some counter examples, but I doubt it.

Power = Voltage x Currency …If the voltage of your idea is zero, then V C that P vill also = 0. There seem to be a lot of similar relationships like that, governing diverse aspects of our world. It doesn’t have to be accurate 100% (the perfect is the enemy of the good  ;)), but if A.I. could have a layer for noticing and reusing such underlying mechanisms, then we might be able to drastically reduce computation requirements.
Title: Re: AI Weirdness
Post by: krayvonk on April 11, 2020, 11:15:02 am
All I need is an infinite supply of milk powder and ill take over the world.
Title: Re: AI Weirdness
Post by: yotamarker on April 11, 2020, 10:28:52 pm
a bunch of us should work together to pass the loebner test and put an end to the sentence
"artificial intelligence is still a long way from where we want it to be"

in B4 cope
Title: Re: AI Weirdness
Post by: infurl on April 12, 2020, 12:07:21 am
a bunch of us should work together to pass the loebner test and put an end to the sentence
"artificial intelligence is still a long way from where we want it to be"

That's a great idea. First we need to figure out how we're going to work together. How do you propose that we should do that?
Title: Re: AI Weirdness
Post by: yotamarker on April 12, 2020, 12:27:16 am
a bunch of us should work together to pass the loebner test and put an end to the sentence
"artificial intelligence is still a long way from where we want it to be"

That's a great idea. First we need to figure out how we're going to work together. How do you propose that we should do that?

you should start by making a thread on this matter and we can take it from there.
Title: Re: AI Weirdness
Post by: infurl on April 12, 2020, 12:33:35 am
you should start by making a thread on this matter and we can take it from there.

Why me? It was your idea. Which subforum do you think it should go under?

I would propose "AIDreams Team" as the topic and I would put it under "AI Programming" if there are no objections.

edit: Just for gits and shiggles, here's a freshly created thread on Reddit on this very topic.

https://www.reddit.com/r/agi/comments/fzlcg6/ive_devoted_my_life_to_creating_an_agi_heres_my/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/agi/comments/fzlcg6/ive_devoted_my_life_to_creating_an_agi_heres_my/)

Although hopelessly naive, at least the posters are lucid enough to be entertaining.
Title: Re: AI Weirdness
Post by: LOCKSUIT on April 12, 2020, 01:24:41 am
Well guys, there's my half brother, so long! Off I go contact him. 👌
Title: Re: AI Weirdness
Post by: LOCKSUIT on April 12, 2020, 01:50:21 am
Look at all those nippers. There's 101K of them! Wow, they really want to work on AGI! I'm calling them over!
Title: Re: AI Weirdness
Post by: krayvonk on April 12, 2020, 02:16:25 am
Whatever you do,  DONT TELL THEM ABOUT WORLD MODELS!!!  Noooo! Tell them ANYTHING but THAT!!!!   :'(
Title: Re: AI Weirdness
Post by: LOCKSUIT on April 12, 2020, 02:38:30 am
Welcome Post:
https://www.reddit.com/r/agi/comments/fznk07/invitation_to_an_ai_forum/
Title: Re: AI Weirdness
Post by: krayvonk on April 12, 2020, 02:44:20 am
What did u write, they took it off!
Title: Re: AI Weirdness
Post by: LOCKSUIT on April 12, 2020, 02:51:01 am
I'm gonna kill them all with a bloody knife sunna of a !!!!!!

I wrote:


Hi everyone!

I noticed there was a few people dedicated to AGI here and so I invite you to AI Dreams Forum to chat with us there, too. I have a lot of intuitive answers about AGI, code, etc and you will be dying for it!

https://aidreams.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=14744.0


And after I clicked 'post' it was already blocked, as if they are watching what u type AS you type !!!!!!!
Then I posted 2 posts just now:


Hi!

I noticed there was a few people dedicated to AGI here and so I would love to speak with you on AI Dreams too. I have a lot of intuitive answers about AGI, code, etc.


https://aidreams.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=14744.0



GONE, THEY DON'T GET POSTED!
Title: Re: AI Weirdness
Post by: krayvonk on April 12, 2020, 02:58:12 am
haha.  very confident of you to be such a smug arse. =)
Title: Re: AI Weirdness
Post by: LOCKSUIT on April 12, 2020, 03:01:48 am
Smug...arse....?
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=smartarse
Title: Re: AI Weirdness
Post by: LOCKSUIT on April 12, 2020, 03:08:17 am
So it seems new accounts may be blocked. It's really, picky.
Title: Re: AI Weirdness
Post by: LOCKSUIT on April 12, 2020, 03:09:31 am
LOL KEGHN IS A MOD
Title: Re: AI Weirdness
Post by: krayvonk on April 12, 2020, 03:24:08 am
Keghn is excellent.  Wonderful imagination.
Title: Re: AI Weirdness
Post by: LOCKSUIT on April 12, 2020, 05:28:13 am
nickb said it was the link, it's spamming to link a forum.....fine.
Title: Re: AI Weirdness
Post by: infurl on April 12, 2020, 06:20:27 am
You should create your own subreddit. You would be the moderator, but remember, with great power comes great responsibility.
Title: Re: AI Weirdness
Post by: yotamarker on April 12, 2020, 07:39:28 am
you should start by making a thread on this matter and we can take it from there.

Why me? It was your idea. Which subforum do you think it should go under?

I would propose "AIDreams Team" as the topic and I would put it under "AI Programming" if there are no objections.

edit: Just for gits and shiggles, here's a freshly created thread on Reddit on this very topic.

https://www.reddit.com/r/agi/comments/fzlcg6/ive_devoted_my_life_to_creating_an_agi_heres_my/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/agi/comments/fzlcg6/ive_devoted_my_life_to_creating_an_agi_heres_my/)

Although hopelessly naive, at least the posters are lucid enough to be entertaining.

cause if people don't have enough charisma to open a thread than you are just talking to yourself and wasting energy.
the why is a whole other problem, it goes to show negative enthusiasm. I don't do why I only spend time on how.

personaly I just don't like it when I see stuff like :
we are years from a decent AGI, only big tech can do it with big money, maybe someday someone would be able to
the current markets don't accommodate, we are years from, our team lack fonding, look at this link of some obscure team
of salary man that made an AI that uses neural networks to create pictures of dogs and cats, we are years from AGI, bla bla bla.

but that's just me.
Title: Re: AI Weirdness
Post by: LOCKSUIT on April 12, 2020, 05:54:46 pm
To me Reddit feels like a bunch of teens that post a short reply and never return to the thread to check back in. They don't care to actually work on it with you. It seems like more of a stick it note post type of website. It seems like a joke.

:)

Then again this website is even more dry....cough :)


I feel most people are just there for the laugh. None them are actually immanently concerned to create AGI.

Ah idk. I also feel too many people don't update each other and are on the same page. Too many beginners. And too many stuck guys at walls.