How do you make a Robot AI attracted to zebras?

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Re: How do you make a Robot AI attracted to zebras?
« Reply #30 on: October 02, 2016, 10:26:33 pm »
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That is the fault of the simpleness of your algorithm. Take a look -- if it is not simple, one would restrain instead of killing the murderer.

I meant you and this man is in the same room and you see him kill your mom, then he morphs into a girl/your mom and you go to kill him or not eat the beautiful cupcake because you know that thinggg is the killer/poisonous apple - simply by the right match - you will either do "kill actions to save yourself" or "zero-action-actions to not touch the cupcake".

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If one were to be more advanced, where one would have such a thing as "emotion" -- then one would rather seek the truth. One would attempt to be forgiving and take their patience and time to find answers. One would attempt to think outside the box...
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Such as one wouldn't attempt to guess that it is a cube at first glance of my example picture. When you have an answer from a match, it does not stop there. It is required to gather every single match before going through the process of determining which is the right one -- the process known as elimination.

I am sure one've done that in school during examinations. Objective questions provides four possible choices; A, B, C, and D. If one were unable to answer the question due to unable to remember correctly, one might not notice, but everyone uses the process of elimination to find the last possible choice, and that final choice may be the answer -- once again one would say "may be", because even though one have found the answer, it still doesn't mean that it is correct.

Just as Art said, it goes through the necessary steps before jumping conclusions.

One would ask the murderer about how the hell the burglar gets in, find his way into the house, and who the murderer is, before jumping conclusions thinking that the murder is the burglar and started killing him at once.

While murdering people, by itself, is already wrong, no matter what happened, that is if you decided to kill the murderer, that you'll become the murderer by itself -- which in turn, you'll be arrested as well, unless the murderer resisted and died as a result of one's self-defense.

Derived from your example, if it is "simple", then it might as well as your AI easily becoming a broken killing machine with an ever so slightly poke.

Here you discuss elimination. My system works by both match/self-ignition and full-filment matches to complete 1 match too (such as seeing a few angles of the "cylinder". But as said above, certain images, such as the murder morph or cylinder able to see its flat top and round body - are the highest demander matches that make you assert it is definetly a clinder/killer - such as when asked to name shapes without touching objects on a table.



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@ LOCKSUIT - "Luckily I will tell you that all of my algorithm can be easily explained to 2cd graders."

Really? How can the complex mathematics of an image targeting, locating and identification processing and reaction possibly be explained to 2nd graders.

Do you mean just the words I typed above?. If they were read to the 2nd graders then they might "understand" the concept but their minds could not possibly understand the math and formulas involved that enable the robot to accomplish those tasks. It cannot be made simple enough for their young minds to grasp or understand, no matter what you might think. The math and programming alone would be enough to intimidate most high schoolers.

I mean it. You see, you have the wrong idea like everyone else has - the key is not at all the math or algorithms and definitely not how to program something because programming is a way you make it not the thing you make. Little own formulas, I've never used those symbols in my life. The key is not explaining something by going through every atomic reaction - that would be billions of meaningless info. The key is simply, English key explanations. As for them, the only ones I'll bring up are the answers to your questions:

Image targeting:
Where the eyes point - the center of the camera's image is the center - the image is the whole thing. You have control over (without moving your eyes) where the image center will be and also how large the field is i.e. the letter on the screen or the letters&monitor&speakers-on-your-table.

Locating:
You mean Easter hunts? The correct actions done wouldn't be called locating - actions are for a lot of things.

Identification:
Ah the match process. In English explanations easily yes. I have my whole AI system shown in a huge simple 3D picture and in a pretty good English transcript.

Reactions ~ actions:
Yes, yes.
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Re: How do you make a Robot AI attracted to zebras?
« Reply #31 on: October 03, 2016, 12:49:31 am »
then he morphs into a girl/your mom and you go to kill him or not eat the beautiful cupcake because you know that thinggg is the killer/poisonous apple - simply by the right match - you will either do "kill actions to save yourself" or "zero-action-actions to not touch the cupcake".
Then one would be extremely broken to not restrain the murderer. Because wow! This murderer can morph into someone else!

Additionally, that being said, that no longer 100% certain that the murderer is the burglar. The murderer could have mimicked the burglar himself!

One would be even more broken than ever to not seeking out who this morphing murderer's true identity. He could be there to help one, too. For example, one's mother could be the real killer, and the morphing murderer could be one's mother!

... Well, well, well! Would you look at that!

I mean it. You see, you have the wrong idea like everyone else has - the key is not at all the math or algorithms and definitely not how to program something because programming is a way you make it not the thing you make.
"programming is a way you make it"?

"not the thing you make"?

What are you getting at? Programming is the purpose of making things function the way we wanted it. It is the way one makes, and also different ways to program can create the same thing.

Take the example of different programming languages. They are all appears to be different, but once done the way it should be, it will function the way the "thing" that should have been.

For example, the Trigonometry functions could be programmed differently in each programming languages. But the thing is that they do the same thing.

Little own formulas, I've never used those symbols in my life.
"I've never used those symbols in my life"?
Does that mean I can conclude that you must have failed at math examination, and get 0% score in school, since you said you've never used those symbols in your life. ;D

The key is not explaining something by going through every atomic reaction - that would be billions of meaningless info. The key is simply, English key explanations.
If explaining something by going through every atomic reaction were meaningless info, then we won't be living in a modern era. Everything would be still be explained by philosophy and wrong information. Science will not exist nor anyone will be interested. You should be grateful that people have delved into these so-called "meaningless" info to bring us a new world.

Additionally, "programming" is the very "atomic level" of information conveyed. One will not easily understand and program something from simple words.

Take the example of a Skylake chip. You can explain the chip in basic words, its wiring, its components, etc. But you won't able to delve into deeper of its blueprint.

There is such a thing as "reverse engineering". One could take several years to understand how the entire chip works in atomic level before one could even recreate from basic words.
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Re: How do you make a Robot AI attracted to zebras?
« Reply #32 on: October 03, 2016, 03:29:42 am »
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Then one would be extremely broken to not restrain the murderer. Because wow! This murderer can morph into someone else!

Additionally, that being said, that no longer 100% certain that the murderer is the burglar. The murderer could have mimicked the burglar himself!

One would be even more broken than ever to not seeking out who this morphing murderer's true identity. He could be there to help one, too. For example, one's mother could be the real killer, and the morphing murderer could be one's mother!

... Well, well, well! Would you look at that!

You know who to kill - the thing that killed and then morphed into your mom.

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"programming is a way you make it"?

"not the thing you make"?

What are you getting at? Programming is the purpose of making things function the way we wanted it. It is the way one makes, and also different ways to program can create the same thing.

Take the example of different programming languages. They are all appears to be different, but once done the way it should be, it will function the way the "thing" that should have been.

For example, the Trigonometry functions could be programmed differently in each programming languages. But the thing is that they do the same thing.

If explaining something by going through every atomic reaction were meaningless info, then we won't be living in a modern era. Everything would be still be explained by philosophy and wrong information. Science will not exist nor anyone will be interested. You should be grateful that people have delved into these so-called "meaningless" info to bring us a new world.

Additionally, "programming" is the very "atomic level" of information conveyed. One will not easily understand and program something from simple words.

Take the example of a Skylake chip. You can explain the chip in basic words, its wiring, its components, etc. But you won't able to delve into deeper of its blueprint.

There is such a thing as "reverse engineering". One could take several years to understand how the entire chip works in atomic level before one could even recreate from basic words.

ALL of a invention must be explained. For example the neurons charging up and attracting other nearby charge etc. But, when you explain for example a Hard Drive, you don't explain every single atom in the power supply's cord.

As for programming, it is nonesense to create sensefull functions. You weren't thinking correctly - a processor chip is literally THE programming in 3D form! Our brain is too! (0 codecs) (images are stored as squares as brightness energy and RGB color chemicals). The "actual structure" of wires and components carrying out functions or simply functions being "nonesense coding" is the KEY. Keep in mind processors although are real structures actually are "dumbies" that compute programming language PLUS use functions to do that which are alssoooo in programming language. Simply the main AI functions can be carried out right on a 3D-only structure i.e. the brain with NO "dumby" CPU and no programming to carry out those functions either.

Btw I'm working on my next "tock" after "tick" of my schematic diagrams - this time its a intel-like processor-like 2D schematic of all of human intelligence and will be undoubtedly easy to understand.
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Re: How do you make a Robot AI attracted to zebras?
« Reply #33 on: October 03, 2016, 03:53:59 am »
You know who to kill - the thing that killed and then morphed into your mom.
... Is that an insult?

As for programming, it is nonesense to create sensefull functions. You weren't thinking correctly - a processor chip is literally THE programming in 3D form! Our brain is too! (0 codecs) (images are stored as squares as brightness energy and RGB color chemicals). The "actual structure" of wires and components carrying out functions or simply functions being "nonesense coding" is the KEY. Keep in mind processors although are real structures actually are "dumbies" that compute programming language PLUS use functions to do that which are alssoooo in programming language. Simply the main AI functions can be carried out right on a 3D-only structure i.e. the brain with NO "dumby" CPU and no programming to carry out those functions either.
In the end the chips still have to be programmed, except it's programmed with the lowest level of code known as "Machine Code". It is a head-aching language that is too difficult to comprehend. That is why higher level of programming languages to deal with programming chips were made, such as C and C++ were made.

Unless you're planning to replicate the structure of the brain by jumbling in godzillion of transistors (this way, you don't have to program) to mimic the layout, well, good luck doing that. There will be multiple immeasurable amount of problems that you'll probably ram your head against a wall in the peak of giving up.
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Re: How do you make a Robot AI attracted to zebras?
« Reply #34 on: October 03, 2016, 06:46:55 pm »
@BF33

So… the only reason we don’t have 2nd graders working at MIT or NASA is because we don’t ‘dumb’ down the science/ learning/ explanations enough?

Although not adverse to using profanities, I like to think I'm intelligent enough to not have to resort to such measures. This is not a personal attack, is merely a personal observation/ judgement on 99% of what you have wrote in this thread... Total utter bo**ocks.

I can literally feel my intellect… slipping away.

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Re: How do you make a Robot AI attracted to zebras?
« Reply #35 on: October 03, 2016, 07:27:33 pm »
 Dumbing down the data is OK just as long as we do not forget  the path back to reality.

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Re: How do you make a Robot AI attracted to zebras?
« Reply #36 on: October 03, 2016, 11:24:41 pm »
@kei For the 3rd time I meant that if you see a man kill your mom and then magically morph into a person that looks like your mom/girlfriend - then you know who to kill or "not eat the correct apple".

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I can literally feel my intellect… slipping away.

1) We're not fighting. 2) What you said is something only in your head...... But maybe building robots and all and like a normal person and talking to someone alias as me is super un-normal so, ya. Like Obama talking to me. But who really has the secrets?? :D



Really concerned...You know that 14,000x14,000 Master Diagram I rendered? Did anyone download it? Or did you just look at the we small thumbnail lolol?
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Re: How do you make a Robot AI attracted to zebras?
« Reply #37 on: October 04, 2016, 01:50:37 am »
Excuse me for making a vain attempt to steer the conversation from a twisted Sci-Fi morphing killer mom wanna be to how do you make a Robot AI attracted to zebras?

For as well as it's been covered I'll say, Give the Zebra a nice solid colored outfit (because it already has too many stripes that are likely to clash with anything else), some decent platform shoes, makeup to shorten that "long face" look and some killer mascara and nice perfume! That should do it and if that Robot AI has ANY measure of intelligence, it will NOT hesitate to pass up an opportunity like this!

See...not everything centers around math or formulas and stuff. This is old school material!  (What? for a minute I thought I heard the Zabra say, "Do you think these stripes make me look too tall?")   O0
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Re: How do you make a Robot AI attracted to zebras?
« Reply #38 on: October 04, 2016, 02:19:25 am »
I do not see any purpose in what you wrote.

Yes, #0math.

Still want to know from any of yous about the Master Diagram question above.

Just finished my 3rd final rough draft on paper, tomorrow I start the digital.
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Re: How do you make a Robot AI attracted to zebras?
« Reply #39 on: October 04, 2016, 12:57:25 pm »
@ LOCKSUIT

The purpose of what I wrote was to interject a bit of humor into this deviated topic.

Does this : '...see a man kill your mom and then magically morph into a person that looks like your mom/girlfriend - then you know who to kill or "not eat the correct apple" ' serve as an answer to the originally posted question of 'How do you make a Robot AI attracted to zebras?'  Interesting and entertaining but I think not.

Now you're further diverting the gist of this topic back to that humongous diagram. I think that no one really wished to download that "diagram" due to its size!

OK...carry on....

 
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Re: How do you make a Robot AI attracted to zebras?
« Reply #40 on: October 05, 2016, 01:01:57 am »
You wouldn't mind if I, take her out, for an evening, would you?

Well kei asked a question a few 20 replies back you see...

I's only a 109MB...kei you seen i right? :(
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Re: How do you make a Robot AI attracted to zebras?
« Reply #41 on: October 05, 2016, 01:16:55 am »
Well I'm too busy working on my own project to look at your super-massive diagram, which you don't realize how ridiculously demanding programming is -- although I did take a peek ages ago.

Besides, you've already redrawn the smaller version, which I've seen, and didn't really bother understanding both version because both are in mess.. XD
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Re: How do you make a Robot AI attracted to zebras?
« Reply #42 on: October 05, 2016, 01:26:44 am »
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« Reply #43 on: October 05, 2016, 08:01:42 am »
Oh no, what I re-drew is that huge Master Diagram, but as a schematic and this time you can see everything in a small file size image.

The whole board is going to be black. There wont even be a white background frame.

It's coming really good.

Pulling an all nighter.

Kei, what is your project? I'd like to know more about it.
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