Secret to AGI & ASI

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Re: Secret to AGI & ASI
« Reply #45 on: April 24, 2018, 12:49:09 am »
Unreality, clearly all of us are telling you stuff like you need NNs and don't have how to create AGI, so, let's try to ask questions to get some equilibrium going.

How old are you?

Why do you want to create AGI?

Can your AGI form discoveries?

Does it have a real/virtual body or is it just a algorithm in a computer?

What great feat has it done for you? If it has no body, then has it made discoveries? Or just replies scripted comments?

Please film not how it works but what it can do.

Lastly keep in mind AGI isn't how many things it can do, and it isn't how good it can play Go, rather it is how good it can do multiple things. More importantly AGI means human, the ability to save lives. But discovery is important, without that it's only learning/doing the knowledge and skills we feed it!
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Re: Secret to AGI & ASI
« Reply #46 on: April 24, 2018, 01:15:57 am »
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Re: Secret to AGI & ASI
« Reply #47 on: April 24, 2018, 01:16:41 am »
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Re: Secret to AGI & ASI
« Reply #48 on: April 24, 2018, 10:31:35 am »
@unreality

I’ve been reading along quietly, you seem to be contradicting yourself.

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One major difference is that I've actually achieved AGI.

The term AGI encapsulates a complete system/ concept.  A working artificial general intelligence should be complete, it shouldn’t require any coding language; the user should just be able to speak or type through a NLI… that’s partly the point of the ‘G’ in AGI.

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I'm not saying it will be easy for someone to write their own AGI using my code outline. The coder will have to write their own logic language, but that's not an unknown. Logic language is not a big deal.

So… your system can’t be an AGI, why should a user have to write their own code? You are saying that you have created some routines; that you think can be used (or proved with the video… hopefully) to create an AGI… but the validity of the implementation rests on the coder’s shoulders… that’s like stating that the bloke who invented ASCII code created the first AGI.

It will be interesting to see if your AGI can recognise/ understand complex concepts like… paranoid, immature, narcissism, peevish, patronising, delusions of grandeur, etc.  Perhaps you could explain these concepts to your AGI in the video... it's conclusions might be enlightening/ interesting.

I look forward to seeing some examples of your AGI in action.

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Re: Secret to AGI & ASI
« Reply #49 on: April 24, 2018, 12:57:57 pm »
@ Unreality,

Speaking of Peevish, why would it hurt or rather why did you completely avoid/dismiss Locksuit's questions? I personally didn't think they were out of line. Part of the discussions we have here is about sharing information and getting to know each other a bit better so that we might all learn from this journey. (if the age thing really bothers you then there are polite ways to express that).

Language can be a very powerful tool so let's not try to wield it as a weapon.

Thank you.
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Re: Secret to AGI & ASI
« Reply #50 on: April 24, 2018, 03:43:37 pm »
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Re: Secret to AGI & ASI
« Reply #51 on: April 24, 2018, 03:52:29 pm »
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Re: Secret to AGI & ASI
« Reply #52 on: April 24, 2018, 04:02:46 pm »
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Re: Secret to AGI & ASI
« Reply #53 on: April 24, 2018, 04:12:38 pm »
I don't know that anyone's actually called you a liar.  But we all want proof of the stupendous claim that you already have an AGI -- and that desire for proof is completely reasonable.  Making a claim is easy.  I'm waiting for some kind of demonstration that can be verified by a reputable third party.

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Re: Secret to AGI & ASI
« Reply #54 on: April 24, 2018, 04:19:13 pm »
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Re: Secret to AGI & ASI
« Reply #55 on: April 24, 2018, 04:28:23 pm »
I look forward to you dispelling all the doubt.

It's not the first time we have had people claim to have conscious AI...

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Re: Secret to AGI & ASI
« Reply #56 on: April 24, 2018, 05:15:53 pm »
I learned that often, in theory things look perfect, but when I get down to details, the whole world of unsolved problems pops up. So I'm used to stick to this: seeing is believing when it comes to my invents.

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Re: Secret to AGI & ASI
« Reply #57 on: April 24, 2018, 06:11:41 pm »
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Re: Secret to AGI & ASI
« Reply #58 on: April 24, 2018, 06:56:21 pm »
Good to hear! I'm seriously looking forward to it, and all in good faith! O0
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Re: Secret to AGI & ASI
« Reply #59 on: April 24, 2018, 07:14:31 pm »
It was only up until about a day or two ago I noticed unreality had added to his profile motto "Built world's 1st AGI". So, although we (and I) have been asking questions and have been in doubt, now I'm really interested in simply just seeing what you made, and leaving that as the decider (since you say you seriously have the 1st AGI).

Therefore, I wait to see your AGI.

Can you provide an approximate release date for the demonstration of your AGI?
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