[goaty]

The simplest brain (even for virus!) would just be the computer interfacing with its sensor- out to its motors, and youll see its an ordinary process/program,  its just its been "linked up" to continually react to it,  with a small amount of memory, to help things here and there.

[LOCKSUIT]

How bout change subject - what is the simplest neural network to build real AGI? Let's discover universal answers.

[goaty]

Sure.
My best guess for that is a symbolic relations neural network,  where it discovers its state machines.  and its definitely a lot less computational than exhaustive search,  but its obviously harder to come up with than a normal evolution based learning network...  but it comes to the same thing,  they are both searching in the same space,  just with different methods, and have different points of local optima.

If your ever stumped doing your inventing - you are at a peak you cant get over (local optima), if you were in the same class as a.i. (but actual intelligence) 
So the symbolic system will have moments where it has no relation, and it gets stumped as well.

[HS]

The entire connectome of the the nematode Caenorhabditis elegans, was recently mapped.

Currently, no one really knows what to do with the data, but somewhere within the connectome is the basic structure of AGI. If we map the connectome of other creatures an do an invariable analysis, we should be able to isolate it.

[goaty]

that's wowsers.    Hopefully, im skeptical in the way that I think that's its not understood, and we are all just in different bubbles, in society.

So - wheres all the amazing produce?    Paranormal separation technologies, that put us in different activity segments from each other,  and theres even ppl still living in flat earth medi-eval times TODAY!!   

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Just to add something,  the worm is the creature that comes after the egg, in evolution I think - and it makes an awesome simple&scary robot if you put a whole lot of segments together!  (Dr Octopus from spider man?)


.. and one more thing.

I don't think live dissections of animals is nice,  so the data collected is tainted with evil, so watch out about wet lab discoveries,  alot could be morally poorly collected.

Why bother,  just use maths mate,  theres no need for the pointless cruelty (with our calculus to use any time we want, from simple numerical methods all the way to true understanding.) - all the way to the entire defunction of man. yay! now no-one has a job!

[LOCKSUIT]

Title of thread is -> "simplest brain i could think of."

Answer is -> "Goaty"

[goaty]

Why am I being dumb?   

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[LOCKSUIT]

The way you talk is STUPID and you do half ass, pointless projects.    :)

At least, for the most part. Stupididy after all is key to learning.

[LOCKSUIT]

As said in OP > "The simplest brain (even for virus!) would just be the computer interfacing with its sensor- out to its motors, and youll see its an ordinary process/program,  its just its been "linked up" to continually react to it,  with a small amount of memory, to help things here and there."

[goaty]

Whats useless about making a virus?   miniscule insects could be a worse menace than nuclear warfare!

Hey no joke, id be finished by the start of year and half ago, I ended getting up getting a mad illness in the head, and it stunted my project.

What ive got now, is just about finished the design for the whole brain, just a bit more software there, and ive got my bot body in a 4 layer mould, where I put in the electricals in some cavities.  But the actual power of the bot is pneumatic, goes through a hydraulic dac to my little walky tendons,    and u realize how many of these babies I could put out - if its all just silicon or resin mould work of just 4 or so layers?

Im so close mate...  im so close im scaring myself... honestly. 

The cia are going to come and get me and lock me up, I got to watch what I say on the internet!  arrr Im going paranoid!!!

[LOCKSUIT]

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[goaty]

nooo!  its evil tarot art im dooooomed!

[WriterOfMinds]

Ooof!  Locksuit, that was rude.

Goaty, I'm not sure what you're trying to say in the first post. A computer with some memory, that is connected to sensors and actuators -- that's a vague enough description that it would apply to most robot brains out there. Do you mean that this is the minimum set of components, i.e. you can't have an effective brain if you are missing one of those four things?

I don't know what definition of "computer" you're using here, though since you mention the word "program" maybe you mean at least a microcontroller.  It's possible to go simpler than that.  I have a robot whose brain is a 5-state synchronous state machine made out of three flip-flops and some gates.  You don't get a whole lot out of five states ... it can back up and turn when it hits an obstacle, and that's the extent of the behavior.  But it still counts as a brain.

I've heard of probably even simpler robots that only use analog circuits ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BEAM_robotics

[yotamarker]

The entire connectome of the the nematode Caenorhabditis elegans, was recently mapped.

Currently, no one really knows what to do with the data, but somewhere within the connectome is the basic structure of AGI. If we map the connectome of other creatures an do an invariable analysis, we should be able to isolate it.

looks like a bunch of circles to me ngl

[WriterOfMinds]

somewhere within the connectome is the basic structure of AGI. If we map the connectome of other creatures an do an invariable analysis, we should be able to isolate it.

I wouldn't be certain of that if I were you. We don't even know for sure that there *is* a "basic structure of AGI." Maybe each of the various skills or functions that go into human-level intelligence needs its own algorithm for best results. A worm would have some of those, but not all.

If you did an invariate analysis across species, I suspect that what you'd isolate is the part of each species' brain that implements worm-level faculties. Some of our [human] faculties might be so different on a conceptual level that it wouldn't matter how much you scaled up a worm brain, you'd never, ever get to them.

An algorithm for thinking, or a structure that implements that algorithm, is a form of information. Think of the worm connectome as having fewer "bits" to store information. You won't spontaneously generate the additional information in the human connectome just by making the worm connectome bigger. (You might say "but all that additional room in the human connectome is just extra memory that's filled in by learning, or the same thing replicated for additional processing power!" And you *could* be right, but again, I wouldn't bank on it.)