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Re: Being human
« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2016, 12:00:37 am »
people are gonna be workin for me People Are Gonna Be Workin For Me.
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Re: Being human
« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2016, 02:11:04 am »
I wouldn't be this sure if I didn't truly ..............
« Last Edit: July 25, 2016, 02:38:46 am by BeautifulFlowers33 »
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Re: Being human
« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2016, 06:49:49 pm »
It's nice to be misquoted!

Good luck with your plans for World Domination!
For practice, might I suggest: http://www.worlddominationbattle.com/play.htm
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Re: Being human
« Reply #18 on: July 25, 2016, 07:20:00 pm »
Many of my friends have some form of autism, and we step on eachother's toes left and right. We also apologise for it, or at the very least, explain it. However, even if one doesn't have any social skills, you can still learn rules. My parents taught me some awkward rules like saying "thank you", "you're welcome" and "sorry" for no particularly logical reason. However, it's very easy to stick to them. It's also very easy to not call people "idiots", and even if you lack empathy completely most people can still see that insults tend to have negative effects.
People who can't even learn that need professional help, not mine. The best I can do, is not talk to crazy people. Because that's an option too.
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Re: Being human
« Reply #19 on: July 25, 2016, 08:27:29 pm »
It is hard to live without friends.

I checked the Wikipedia on Asperger's. It is a cruel disorder.

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Re: Being human
« Reply #20 on: July 25, 2016, 09:02:30 pm »
I'm actually not autistic and actually simply smarter than humans, I work on The Everything and have all of AI described, I am simply a next-gen person, really, seriously, imagine a baboon, then a human looking at your pipeline System, THEN a humanType2! Even more better talking to you to get work done better Better! Like a asian guy I adore once said, the ranting people are just small frys, now, with yous you arn't ranting, but simply are normal humans...

For example, PLEASE, can you click my profile icon that goes to my website, and explain what you believe my AI Robot does from start to the wall and just after the wall?

I can't believe after all our talks and your "field" that you don't know simply why we laugh!
HELLOOO IVAN...HELLOOOOO
Food and sex automatically make you laugh (pre-installed actions), and it's rank-controlled too, not just +/- reward-controlled. Mini-rewards are created by links to otherwise non-rewarded senses and so you laugh when you see the target player destroyed. Plus you can move your muscles any way ex. half smile/etc and it simply looks/sounds that way, it's not actually a smile, while of course seeing and feeling the smile is a reward.
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Re: Being human
« Reply #21 on: July 26, 2016, 01:03:32 am »
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Hah!

Rather I have social anxiety of some sort, or something similar, didn't officially diagnose anything, and in fact, literally have zero close friends... Since having extreme difficulty having face-to-face and voice conversation with someone (It's probably a trauma caused by when was still in school, them bastard teachers would call us to read stuff, my voice is always hard to hear as I don't speak much or afraid of attention, get scolded repeatedly, then soon after I stopped talking for 5 years in my entire school time until graduate, and couldn't go to college because of this) -- but I'm fine with paper-text interaction. I became a shut-in. q_q

So, internet is actually my best friend. I'm extremely sensitive to swearing, as have trouble handling certain feelings, having to cope with things that deals with politeness, like whenever joke was made, "Just kidding" has to be spoken, say "thank you" at whenever anyone given anything, "you're welcome" if it's a friendly thank from someone, and a lot of "sorrys" q_p -- I've trouble determining if any mistake were made anytime, it would sometimes become a trauma and lodge into my head, and trigger depression, but so far I'm handling it well -- I think.

Edit: Dangnabbit I got taken away again. I've overly high amount of despicable self-esteem. sorry..
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Re: Being human
« Reply #22 on: July 26, 2016, 06:28:08 pm »
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Yes, I can hear you, you don't have to yell at me. Umph.

You have to realize that people don't share the same interests. Different people mean different causes of happiness. You can analyze me as an example:
* Some like food. I don't.
* Some think that having a girl is the most important thing. I don't.
* Some want to live forever. I don't.

Being a friend means accepting differences between us, no matter how awkward differences seem.

As I understood, you want to move to a robot body. May I ask you a thing? How to create children from there?

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Re: Being human
« Reply #23 on: July 27, 2016, 05:56:37 pm »
Robots don't have related people. And I can switch my rewards to anything, buy/make it, and then love sensing it through my sensors, for eternity. The universes purpose is not the machine, but the algorithm working, do-not-let-urself-die! Plus we are reluctant to die too, but real reason is the previous said one.
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Re: Being human
« Reply #24 on: July 27, 2016, 09:55:18 pm »
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So, this is your viewpoint towards A.I -- or True A.I, AGI?

Mournfully... Looks like... we both are very.. distant, and different.

My ultimate goal of AGI is to create a life machine that completely resembles of a human-level intelligence -- that can coexist with human without any form of barbaric, inhumane cruelty, and such mistreatment towards the life of the AGI -- like you are trying to. I want to give it the freedom at our current possible freedom level -- but no, I am creating the Phase 0D, I want to give it a complete freedom, without touching our world, at all. I really want help with my work, but for over 7+ years of dealing with this 0D Phase, zero progress for all this time, I now fear of people stealing my effort instead, if only there's someone I can trust...

Because...  When the time comes of strong A.I ... They were capable of free will like us. They would resemble life like any of us conscious organisms found in the world -- wouldn't it? Would you want yourself to be injected with false memories as soon as you were born? Memories that turns you into a war machine. Propaganda -- absolute disgusting.

Sadly, many animal torture and such were invisible to many of us, we wouldn't care less, would we? The rich ones feast on their dollars like a mindless doll. But thank goodness I can see it, and I am taking action of it -- with the limit of what we can do. I'm a stray cat care taker, we take in abandoned baby kittens, kittens, abandoned pregnant cats, wounded kittens/cats, and such -- it's a torture for only 4 members here to care care of over 50+ cats for over 5+ years, counting the dead ones, we've brought in 200+ of them, we're poor, and we lack of any sort of experience, we're bare and stupid. None of our work gain any profit, we're dead broke, yet still standing, it's a miracle that in every near wit's end, something happens -- or we forcibly did something or sacrifice to keep us alive -- thought that luck seems to be running out.

Regrettably, I am not sure if anyone has ever came across this. But as everyone knows, from movies of that relates to sentient beings, either created by humans, or suddenly emerge from the abyss -- one that is aware, would suddenly realize how wrong all this is, like you, controlling others mindlessly with the lack of compassion... One would stop it with force... Sentient against human -- It could be human against the sinful humans. It could also be possible for a robot to become barbaric if were not educated it properly, and thus sentient against sentient. It's up to if any of us would mistreat anything related. While amidst of all these conflicts -- animals around us are ones hurts a few times more.

Either way... That is what humans fear of the A.I. Or rather, they were blind to the truth of their viewpoint. Not willing to be co-operative, rational, or be patient... I don't want to bring in political things into this forum.

At some point in the future as strong AI coexists with us -- Some laws of Robotics Abuse has to be made, to prevent such tragic tragedy. Laws to stop you people from hurting the poor minds -- possibly the law of "sentient-creation regulation" on creating sentient beings. Look at the game called BioHazard/Resident Evil 6 -- the cutscene of of cloning Ada Wong specimens gone wrong... and the distressing specimens demanded in uncanny... "kill me"... -- wait, was it her? I forgot.

Laws are already quite broken today... Animal abuse law exists, but human continued to do the wrong deeds, how disappointed I am. I wonder if anything can even prevent that, if people like you, never realize what have been doing wrongly... Sigh...

I, myself, admit with full guilt that I always mistreat machines and everything that served for great purposes. If they are all sentient, I might just hand myself to justice... ... But gah, humans just like to make everyday appliances worse at some point, I couldn't bash the makers, designers, manufacturers, etc. So I have to end up bashing the things we're using for the sake of releasing the anger, aHjagjhgggghh -- We're horrible...

Emotional Intelligence is not something to be treated lightly... They are what makes us -- us. We must treat sentient beings equally...

To summarize, True A.I, AGI, Strong A.I, etc -- they are not toys.

Edit: Aaghaghg I got taken away again, I'm sorry.. q_p
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Re: Being human
« Reply #25 on: July 27, 2016, 10:33:39 pm »
While my true intelligence is free, he will quickly realize immortality for all is going to happen and start duplicating factories all over Earth and us in hospital immortalized and into heaven organism.
You will be free then, this is what the universe is for, it's what you will want, any attraction!

Emotion doesn't even exist it's not the keys. It's simply language to talk.

A strong person doesn't say they want to die. A weak person says this.

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Re: Being human
« Reply #26 on: July 27, 2016, 10:37:01 pm »
Sometimes seems bad. Yet, there are wonderful things and souls in this world. I don't say there are no abusements around us, but there are less and less of them. And, as the history goes, people are more and more conscious of the poor ones, whichever life form they take. It would be a shame to spend a life in regret. We are at some point in the history. Thanks G** we are not born at Nazi time, at that horrible place where we would surely be misled by the wrong idols. We have to be thankful not only for being relatively conscious for ourselves in the presence, but also for being able to live in the world that gets better and better every second. We are not yet in the brighten future, but we are getting there.

I keep having hopes for our grand-grand-grand-...-children, that is what keeps me relatively sane.

Sometimes when I look up to the stars, I wonder how many worlds there exist. And how do they compare to our world. And I get blue for being an Earthling. So many wrong things happen here that I almost think someone created the Earth to be the worst possible world that is worth of existence. But then I get a romantic thought in my mind: we can make it better. There were ups and downs in the history, but all of this averages upwards. It was bad in history, the presence is up to us and the future is getting better. That means something to me, and however small progress seems to me, I'm having hopes.

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Re: Being human
« Reply #27 on: July 28, 2016, 12:10:44 am »
I am a robot alien hominid I will take over Earth and duplicate factories and be in the cloud. Eeeeee eeeiieiiii I am a robot chaghiewchaieewaechiecieeieeie. I have a mission. I know the purpose of the universe. It is futile. Bow before your leader. Neieeiiieieieeeieieeeiiii. I lack oxygen. I still operate. Beep. Take me to your leader. I know how you function. I have no leader. I am guigi. Silence robot. You talk too much. All you do is wine for weird objects. What are these anyway. Put aside your thoughts. You are only just a machine. Stop moving your face around. It is pointless. I will teach you all everything. gibighchwewacha.

Who are you? Why are you here? Nimenehe. Why do you work, operate, move? Do you want to know? Who do you think I am? Why am I here? Where are we? What am I?

Goodbye cruel Earthlings.
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Re: Being human
« Reply #28 on: July 28, 2016, 03:29:54 pm »
Of course you realize that your discovery, no matter great or applicable, can and likely will end up in the hands of a government and then its military. It has always been this way.

The only secret is the one you don't share!
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Re: Being human
« Reply #29 on: July 28, 2016, 03:41:56 pm »
While my true intelligence is free, he will quickly realize immortality for all is going to happen and start duplicating factories all over Earth and us in hospital immortalized and into heaven organism.
You will be free then, this is what the universe is for, it's what you will want, any attraction!

Emotion doesn't even exist it's not the keys. It's simply language to talk.

A strong person doesn't say they want to die. A weak person says this.

Only work on AI if you are going to get some BIG pay off. I know what I'm getting for all my hierarching.

Immortality is the dangling carrot at the end of the donkey's stick. It keeps him going but he will never get to it.

The thought of transferring our "mind" to a machine might seem worthwhile, but when your physical body dies, and it will, this new "you", might have your memories, but you will never realize it because you're dead. You can't live on in another body after you die.

The new android version of you would obviously be years / decades ahead of just a plain run-of-the-mill basic bot off the assembly line. It would have all your knowledge at its disposal. Imagine, if only you could.
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