[Art]

Oh boy...hopefully your A.I. will be better at learning that you are. Great posting title. What does that even have to do with robotics of A.I.
It seems you're still stirring the fire with a stick hoping you don't get burned.

And yes, due to chromosomes, genes and cellular assignments or mis-assignments, a person can and often is born as one gender but with the cellular makeup of the opposite gender. The phrase "Boy trapped in a girl's body" or vice versa is certainly applicable in today's world.
Yes, parental upbringing can and does often affect or sway a child's inner being but not necessarily their cellular anatomy.

Again, this title is of little use for constructing an A.I. so do try to keep it topical.

[keghn]

 My AGI will not have a physical gender. But if it is overly sensitive or raised with a very strong hand  by its owner before it reaches maturity it will take on a female personality. Which is to attract attention to oneself.
  If this process goes overboard because female personality can not get treated the way it was raised it will just keep
getting louder and louder until it does. And treat other people the way it want to be treated, which can be very annoying. That
pushes other people away or in the wrong direction and similar people together.

[spydaz]

If making an autonomous bot ; you would design it's imperatives , what it needs to do (scheduled tasks) ...
As well as its maintainence routines ;
And maybe protective routines ....


Then it's learning would be optimisation of these processes ... 

That would be the intelligence ;
Obviously some type of neural network processes ; using outputs from logical deductions and projections ... Which produce results which can be translated into new actions ...




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[spydaz]

The robot could not experience pain but loss or damage can be seen as a massive cost and to be reduced at all costs ....

It would also have a decision tree / risk management strategy selection to choose from risk vs reward ... Or ...
Expected min/max or sumthing....

Maybe?

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[keghn]

 Unsupervised autonomous Robot is what i am working on. That will develop psychology very close to human.

[Art]

@ keghn - Are you referring to an actual physical Robot or a self-directed, self-learning Chatbot?

Of course building a chat or communication path between machine and human is paramount in design but I was curious of your statement.

Your remark about Unsupervised autonomous Robot led me to think it is a physical robot. The kind that I would have liked to see in that TV show, Robot Wars or Battle Bots...or similar.

Those mechanical contraptions were Radio Controlled "bots" rolling around thrashing each other (bots) until only one stood victorious. It would have been way cool (from a geeky standpoint) to have autonomous bots, seeking out other bots and unleashing destructive blows on each other, without ANY human intervention. That would have been right on!

[keghn]

 No, not a chatbot @Art.
 AGI with a human body. that is small. 1/4 adult size.
 Free will, not controlled, and self learning.

[spydaz]

I think that probably the body brain and the thinking brain probably should be independent ...

With some type of centralised agent managing them both

Maybe?

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[Art]

Maybe something similar to iCub? That is one really cool hardware platform from which to build and research. OK, it's a tad pricey at present but there are other avenues...http://www.icub.org/

Have you looked at the possibility of printing your own robot or buying the printed parts as in inmoove. That robot is somewhat taller than your quoted guidelines but look at it as extra room for more goodies along the way.http://inmoov.fr/

Neo is kind of cute but too small for my liking...almost a kid toy sized creation. It would take it an hour to walk 10 feet! (or something like that.)

AGI with a human body... Hmm...What type of production are you researching? Plastic, fiberglass, aluminum, wood, etc.? You could start with a child mannequin and construct your design elements in and around it. You should be able to pick one up from any number of sources for a pretty reasonable cost...Clothing stores, thrift stores, mannequin shops might be markedly high in price if new. Just some thoughts.

Of course we all know that a robot / android is just a jumbled collection of wire, servos and parts without the programming so good luck there. Keep us posted if we can help cheer you on or offer additional viewpoints.

[keghn]

 Hello @Spydaz.


 Thanks for the info @Art. I am aware of Icub for a while. InMoov is new. Thanks again.

[spydaz]

I think the autonomous robot ;  with intelligence ...
needs imperatives / motives ...

What should it learn ?
How to run and jump , sit , play games ....

Knowing this also helps with the body design as well.

As humans our motives are individual and yet similar ... food /shelter etc after all those basics ...
ie : maintaining charge ; going into low power mode (sleeping and evaluating experiences)

The. Body exists to give the mind experiences of the physical plane of existence .... maybe ?

It would be interesting to understand what imperatives should be added to an autonomous bot ...



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[LOCKSUIT]

Yes, it has to be real body. Starting its life in a iphone will not work. Images must get linked to sound and actions for all motors-out too.

It just needs rewards, any other task can be made a reward by linking the senses to reward-able and hence rewarded senses.

[kei10]

Yes, it has to be real body. Starting its life in a iphone will not work. Images must get linked to sound and actions for all motors-out too.

Starting a life... in an iphone will work. Time to move on to the next phase.