The Human Machine

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Re: The Human Machine
« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2016, 09:23:45 pm »
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But... you can’t use that as an argument; current theories state that before the ‘Big Bang’ there was… ‘nothingness’. So why not take the extra step back and say a toaster or human is made from nothing?

Nothing existed. Then, particles existed just like that. They do exist now plus in space.

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"CONSCIOUS"
Your analogy between a toaster/ human suggests that all things are conscious, this smacks of Panpsychism… don’t get me started on that topic lol.

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Likewise moving forward you can’t ignore the atoms/ materials/ compounds/ chemicals/ forces/ RNA/ DNA/ etc that the base ‘particles’ constitute. We are not robots… we are biochemical machines… there is a big fuc*ing difference.

You are not conscious or biochemical. Are your eyes to big to see? ITS ALL PARTICLES, there isn't any spirit fluenzy magica happenen.

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a human needs a modicum of intelligence to realise how little intelligence it actually has.

You intelligent and realizing the toaster isn't intelligent is all particles working out like a lever system of pulleys, no you are not more special of a bunch of particles than the particles of the toaster.

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Yes, a billion particles together as a toaster do nothing and is just particles in space, yep. But when the particles are put together in "this" way and flow "this" way it makes a sensing non-particle, else you can just destroy us like recycling pop cans Joey. And it makes sense too, I say don't kill me and run from and go to good senses that reward me - so it makes sense that the ghost is sensing as an separate thing what ever I-do.
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Re: The Human Machine
« Reply #16 on: November 10, 2016, 10:22:30 pm »


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Re: The Human Machine
« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2016, 10:29:13 pm »
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Re: The Human Machine
« Reply #18 on: November 10, 2016, 10:33:57 pm »
Trump was called names. Trump was informal. Trump talked dirty about girls. Trump talked bad about races/disability.

But guess who's president now.

Trump.
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Re: The Human Machine
« Reply #19 on: November 10, 2016, 10:36:59 pm »
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Re: The Human Machine
« Reply #20 on: November 10, 2016, 11:02:24 pm »
Locksuit given how sick you are, now that Trump is president, you should be very afraid.

He has specific policies about rounding up all the lunatics and putting them away.

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Re: The Human Machine
« Reply #21 on: November 10, 2016, 11:28:07 pm »
I think we'll get along just fine i.e. Totalitarianism/Groping.

Just wait til the robots come and we're in 2065. Everyone will know they are just a device and that any AI devices create a sensing ghost that is'nt mere particles.

Call me nuts. But I know empirical truths.

1 thing actually covers a lot i.e. "no particle arrangement is any more hot/makes-sense nor should not be destroyed":
#1 rewards make the AI love human faces/children AND understand i.e. makes sense when see " ".
#2 the AI system creates a non-particle(particles pf pfft) sensing ghost that of course shouldn't be destroyed.
This "particle" discovery explaind half of AI system learning and the purpose of the universe!
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Re: The Human Machine
« Reply #22 on: November 11, 2016, 08:35:38 am »
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Totalitarianism

http://examples.yourdictionary.com/examples-of-totalitarianism.html

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    Having a dictatorship
    Employing only one ruling party
    Rule through fear
    Censorship of media
    Propaganda in media, government speeches and through education
    Criticism of the state is prohibited
    Mandatory military sign up
    Secret police forces
    Controlling reproduction of the population (either in hopes to increase or to decrease)
    Targeting of specific religious or political populations
    Development of a nationalist party

Locksuit, please do not breed.

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Re: The Human Machine
« Reply #23 on: November 11, 2016, 08:47:13 am »
http://advancessss.deviantart.com/art/Don-Don-Dahhhhhhh-645155240
Link to the quote: http://aidreams.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=11393.msg43937;topicseen#new

http://advancessss.deviantart.com/art/Gods-6789685-645155288?ga_submit_new=10%253A1478850843

OH YES OH YES OH YES
THEIR ABILITIES ARE ENDLESSSSSSSSS CLONES PARTS MATERIAL SIZE ETC

Also, Locksuit, from your recent reply to your thread "Take turns saying what AI will do once created!", please take a closer look to your scribbles from your recent DeviantArt, and give yourself some calm, relaxed, and rational reconsideration.

Link to Locksuit's DeviantArt: http://advancessss.deviantart.com/

Title: "Gods 6789685"

Full-Size: http://i.imgur.com/sgogR0p.jpg
Source: http://advancessss.deviantart.com/art/Gods-6789685-645155288

Title: "Don Don Dahhhhhhh"

Full-Size: http://i.imgur.com/826MVxWl.jpg
Source: http://advancessss.deviantart.com/art/Don-Don-Dahhhhhhh-645155240

That's not something of normal 21 years old of age would do.

Just look at the indescribable horror...

We are concerned...
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Re: The Human Machine
« Reply #24 on: November 11, 2016, 02:29:38 pm »
With all respect that's due, let's please return this discussion to the posted topic or at least some derivative. Slanting toward Politics or Religion are not acceptable topics to be inserted in this forum.  They are too subjective and a source of distraction and flaming. So please carry on with the topic at hand.

This is not a bashing or slamming arena.

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Re: The Human Machine
« Reply #25 on: November 11, 2016, 10:32:49 pm »
Mentally I'm not 21. I'm a genius. I'm way smarter than Einstein that's why.

I didn't even attempt to organizingly or nicely draw the AI image I just started off bad and didn't try, but it still just barely (barely) gets my stamp of approval.

Just because I know how to give us true love and fun and advance technology and safety to the max doesn't mean you should bash me.

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Re: The Human Machine
« Reply #26 on: November 11, 2016, 10:39:46 pm »
Back to the topic, you've said that if we can bash a toaster, why can't we bash a human? You said we're made of atoms, and said we're equivalent to a toaster. With that assumption, we can bash you, since you're no different than us.

Since you said a toaster has no intelligence. Since we're all toasters, all of us have no intelligence. That means you aren't a genius, no one in the world are genius. That includes you.
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Re: The Human Machine
« Reply #27 on: November 11, 2016, 10:54:35 pm »
Well kei, let's go at it then.

Just kidding.

I told yous above. Only a certain algorithm creates a precious non-particle existence that senses and wants good senses (by the way the AI works with rewarding and doing actions on cue.
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