The PC is dead, long live the PC

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The PC is dead, long live the PC
« on: September 09, 2012, 09:32:11 pm »
Amazing post, I have read for some time. I hope that this is just a summary. But computers are in danger of disappearing in some time. This is really sad! :'(
Link http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-13679926

At Apple's Worldwide Developer Conference (WWDC), the company declared that we are living in a "post-PC world.

Evidence of that can be seen everywhere the company stated from smartphones to tablet devices. And of course it was noted in front of the 5,200 strong developer audience that Apple was a big driver of this change.

"Especially with the iPad we are ushering in this post-PC world," said Apple exec Scott Forstall who provided some impressive numbers to back this all up.

Sales of 25 million iPads in just 14 months. 200 million iOS devices in total. 15 billion songs downloaded since 2003. 130 million books. 14 billion apps downloaded from a store that now runs to 425,000 apps.

Crucial to this digital new world order, as touted by Apple boss Steve Jobs, is freeing all that data from the confines of the hardware where it lives and the PC where users have to go to transfer or back up things like photos, music, videos and all sorts of other files.

'Poor PC'
At WWDC Mr Jobs suggested that the company's new cloud offering, aptly named iCloud, would help users leave behind the shackles of the old tethered ways.

At WWDC Mr Jobs suggested that the company's new cloud offering, aptly named iCloud, would help users leave behind the shackles of the old tethered ways.

"About 10 years ago we had one of our most important insights. That was that the PC was going to become the hub of your digital life."

That model Mr Jobs said has broken down as mobile devices became more powerful.

"All these new devices have communications built into them and they can talk to the cloud whenever they want. Now if I get something on my iPhone, it sends to the cloud immediately. We are going to demote the PC to just be a device. We are going to move the digital hub, the centre of your digital life, into the cloud."

That means software updates will be delivered over the internet. There will be no need to plug an iOS device like your iPhone, iPod touch or iPad into the PC or Mac to activate it. Photos, music, documents, e-mail, contacts and so on will be automatically synced and backed up to the cloud.

"It just works," said Mr Jobs as iCloud stores your content and wirelessly pushes it to all your devices.

By moving to the cloud, it's sayonara PC and Mac.

"Steve Jobs set it up correctly. He said for the last 10 years that Apple has tried to put the Mac at the centre of everything and this is about making the Mac or a Windows PC another device and the centre is now the cloud," said Harry McCracken editor of technology blog Technologizer.com.

"But it's tremendously difficult to do the cloud well. Mr Jobs acknowledged that with Mobile Me which was a lot less ambitious and had problems. So this vision does not lack for ambition but it will be a major challenge to do well," added Mr McCracken.

Industry commentator Steven Levy of Wired Magazine said all the talk started to make him feel bad for the "poor PC".

"Talking about the cloud and the new update of the operating system for the iPhone and iPad, it's looking more and more like he (Mr Jobs) wants these devices, particularly the iPad to do the work we once did on our PCs," he added.

Is this all just the great march of progress? Mark Hachman who is the news editor of PCMag.com said:

"The end of the PC is a step that has been coming for quite some time. These days if you look at content creation it is coming just as much from smartphones and tablets as anything else. I think this is the inevitable way of the future. You see phones like the Motorola Atrix which is a content creation device in itself that can replace the laptop and I think you see it is just another step forward in this direction."

Of course Silicon Valley neighbour Google, which has long been a player in the cloud computing world giving away free apps like Gmail and Google docs, would wholeheatedly agree.

It has been pushing this vision for quite some time and ramped up its efforts last year with the introduction of its Chrome operating system aimed at people who live on the web.

At its own developer conference last month, the tech giant revealed that Samsung and Acer will be bringing out the first Chromebooks later this month to make that vision a reality and give Apple a run for its money.

While Apple wants to ensure that users access the cloud through mobile devices like the iPhone, iPad and iPod Touch it isn't giving up entirely on the Mac.

At WWDC, the company also introduced updates to its Mac OS X software with more than 250 new features, perhaps indicating that one of its most successful products still has some life left in it.
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Re: The PC is dead, long live the PC
« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2012, 09:43:47 pm »

Steve Jobs: 'We are going to move the digital hub, the centre of your digital life, into the cloud'
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Re: The PC is dead, long live the PC
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2012, 04:29:55 pm »
Jobs was a dick. 

Steve Wozniak was the BRAINS BEHIND APPLE COMPUTER INC

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Re: The PC is dead, long live the PC
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2012, 07:11:48 pm »
victorshulist, Yes I think I agree, your synthesis. The computers are, they are still useful, why simply remove it. Capacity, a Icloud, to an application, suitable for Ipad. But I prefer one computer screen, compared to an Ipad, smaller and less capable. O0
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Re: The PC is dead, long live the PC
« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2012, 09:21:33 pm »
Departure from personal computers to mobile devices and physical (non-cloud) storage is departure from true freedom and control over one's personal computing experience.

Until something comes along that is more powerful, more convenient, and more efficient than the PC in every way -- but with the same kind of flexibility and customizability -- the PC will be my platform of choice, and I'm confident others feel the same way.

Cloud storage, however, I don't think I'll ever be a particularly big fan of.  It's extremely convenient, but once it's in the cloud, it's in someone else's hands, and I believe people need to keep this in mind.

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Re: The PC is dead, long live the PC
« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2012, 09:45:42 pm »
Yes good points claude2 & TheMikh28 ... ..
TheMikh28 , your points on cloud are well taken ... I only use cloud as a temporary storage.

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Re: The PC is dead, long live the PC
« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2012, 10:28:26 pm »
Agreed. The "Cloud" is not some mystical floating digital holding tank for everyone to frolic about. It is a SERVER...a massive group of hard drives that hold your private information (well at least you "think" it's private), located in some unknown building, in some unknown, town, city, state or country!!

Never assume that your EMAILS, FAXES, CLOUD COMPUTED INFO, FACEBOOK, etc., etc. information is private!! Nothing is farther from the truth!! It has been this way for years and yet people keep making the same relaxed blunders that others have made in the past. It's time to wake up... You should have taken the blue pill because the MATRIX has you!!

Enjoy your ride! CLOUD!...Indeed!!
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Re: The PC is dead, long live the PC
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2012, 01:10:02 am »
I agree, your opinions. I do not see the point, storage, virtual, or (cloud), more importantly, to monopolize, only this method to an Ipad or Tablet. Personally, mobile format, will remain in its dimention. But other engineers, have also the capacity, creates, innovative solution for computers.
But of course, tastes, fashion, and the colors are like a chameleon, they change quickly. ;)
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Re: The PC is dead, long live the PC
« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2012, 12:53:49 pm »
I can think of an advantage to using the cloud.

Fire and flood damage, if my house was to flood, even worse burn, then my data would be safe in the cloud.

Apart from that I can’t think of any advantages, HDD is cheap, much faster than up loading to the cloud and as secure as I need.

Personally I think the cloud is just another way of the 3 big evils, Apple, Microsoft and Google to eventually get more control over us and also eventually end up paying them for the privilege.

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Re: The PC is dead, long live the PC
« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2012, 08:37:49 pm »
I just encrypt my stuff on place on USB stick or CD and keep a copy locked in my desk at work. . . or perhaps a safety deposit box. . . .at a friend's house. .etc

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Re: The PC is dead, long live the PC
« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2012, 09:30:55 pm »
Now you're talking Victor! Exactly... With flash / thumb drives being very inexpensive, why not take advantage and put your precious data on one or as many as needed to safeguard your files.
You only need copy the data (photos, movies, important documents, contact lists). Don't worry about the programs because they can usually be had quite easily in order to reinstall in event of disaster. You can't replace those photos, family tree info, collections, docs, etc. So do yourself a favor. Make some copies and store them in a secure place (car, friend's house, bank safebox, parent's house, etc.).

This way, YOU retain control of YOUR information!! Not some clown on a cloud!;)
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Re: The PC is dead, long live the PC
« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2012, 10:18:45 pm »
I can think of an advantage to using the cloud.

Fire and flood damage, if my house was to flood, even worse burn, then my data would be safe in the cloud.

Apart from that I can’t think of any advantages, HDD is cheap, much faster than up loading to the cloud and as secure as I need.

Personally I think the cloud is just another way of the 3 big evils, Apple, Microsoft and Google to eventually get more control over us and also eventually end up paying them for the privilege.
Datahopa is entirely true. Warranty, a computer, and from the manufacturer, gives us the advantage on extension, memory, etc.. The access provider, also provides the capacity, extension, and storage, so the cloud is not very important, and I prefer the blue sky, with bright sun on my screen. ;D
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Re: The PC is dead, long live the PC
« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2012, 01:53:47 pm »

 Don't worry about the programs . . . . .


Except the programs you are writing yourself. . . including my AI project which is approaching its 5th year.. . . yeah . .. can't really replace all that hard work.. . easily anyway !!!!!

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Re: The PC is dead, long live the PC
« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2012, 03:37:51 pm »
I have my own little NAS drive to do all this - I don't trust the cloud - and what if you have connection problems, where do you go then ?

Waste of time for me - I have a lovely like micro climate in my kitchen where my own mini clouds can precipitate all they like  ;D

And yes, as Victor mentions, all my programming is backed up there.

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Re: The PC is dead, long live the PC
« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2012, 12:35:15 am »

Except the programs you are writing yourself. . . including my AI project which is approaching its 5th year.. . . yeah . .. can't really replace all that hard work.. . easily anyway !!!!!
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BTW, Is there a site where we can help "Test" your chatbot / AI entity?
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