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top ai top secret?
« on: August 27, 2015, 05:48:42 am »
My theories coming together, and im starting to realize the time for immature brag sharing is over...  ive just privatized all my videos.   Im not sure if I want to help people develop ai anymore - its for me to do.

Do any of you guys have some top theories that you never disclose - in case they fall into the wrong hands?

I really feel like I really am a NASA guy now, or someone like a nasa guy,   and its kinda ordinary - making advanced technology out of your bedroom.

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Re: top ai top secret?
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2015, 07:11:24 am »
Oh now, this is a fun discussion.  It wouldn't surprise me if most of  our community had private A.I. projects!
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« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2015, 08:16:58 am »
Real brag is believing that what we do is advanced enough to help "wrong hands". Wrong hands probably don't need us to do wrong things. Now, walking the path together is probably more fun than reaching the destination alone, isn't it?

And, AGI is already here, we name it Internet.

How about simulating a cat? That would be fun  :uglystupid2:

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« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2015, 10:36:53 am »
No! Cats HATE to be simulated!...just ask one and notice the look you'll get! :2funny:

Instead, let's simulate an honest politician! Couldn't hurt cause we know such a thing doesn't exist! O0
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« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2015, 12:45:07 pm »
Honest politician? Now that is a real challenge!  :2funny:  Seriously, I think quantum physics says that such a thing cannot exist.

But think about the cat. You can simulate it with various degrees of realism. First you can make a chatbot:
You: hey kitty.
Cat: meow.
And if you're a nasa guy 8), say you can accurately simulate its whole brain. Then, in what world would this cat live?

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« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2015, 07:45:02 am »
Perhaps im being a little silly but I'm thinking my theory is too powerful to share...   how confident are you guys with your theories?

F.E.      Im pretty sure I could automate a whole factory, possibly the supply also,  so its pretty hardcore stuff -  but it remains a theory - I havent fully implemented it yet, (im busy at work on my computer now!) but im feeling a little too lucky for my liking.

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« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2015, 08:19:06 am »
How is your theory? Is it mathematically powerful? Does it involve crunching a lot of data very quickly thanks to a "magical" algorithm, or storing a lot of data in a very small place?

To answer your question, IMHO, being confident in your own theories is ok: you're supposed to be confident, it means that it's time now to switch from theory to implementation. Feeling that it's too powerful to share is ok too: it means that you care, because you're a good man. In my opinion, you should implement your work on a computer that is not connected to internet, and then decide whether you'll share it or not. I'm sure you're aware that implementing things is important for theory development. I wish you the best.

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« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2015, 09:17:24 am »
I was thinking leaking a little bit of it,  but I just have to say - being a forum user, isnt the greatest thing to do - holding your technique safe.

Maybe I should go visit some casual forums, instead of technical ones, because its become fruitless me using them, I think it always was,  I just liked bragging about my ideas,  like an immature idiot.

I think maybe you guys wont see much of me anymore.

It was nice sharing my work with you so far,  thanks alot guys, it was fun.  :)


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« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2015, 09:58:37 am »
how confident are you guys with your theories?

I'm quite confident I'm working along the right lines.  I've basically back engineered how I think the human brain works. Over the years I've distilled my theories down into one design of spatio temporal neural net. 

My system can recognize faces and objects, parse/ understand speech in any language, control servos (motor cortex), naturally runs internal simulations before it acts to predict the consequences (sub conscious), etc...it even needs sleep... and it dreams.  I think it possesses most of the traits we endow to being intelligent. It experiences the world through its own senses, microphones, cameras, torque sensors etc and I'm in the process of building a tactile/ feedback body etc.

I'm having problems getting it to concentrate on what I'm teaching it at the moment though. Its attention networks arn't fully developed yet so it does/ listens to what it finds the most salient/ interesting input. It will stare at a clock face for hours... ooo... it moves lol.

I left it listening to HG Wells 'The War of The Worlds' to help fine tune its audio cortex regarding human speech, after the session I checked the main audio cortex map and noticed most of the new synapse where in the 5 - 12k areas... not human speech.

I'd left the door undone, and we live in the country side. Apparently I now posses an AGI that's a expert on bird songs.

I must admit... at the moment I feel like I've designed a psychopath lol.

Edit: Just for fun I isolated the 'bird song' mapping sensitivity in the audio cortex, the grey bar at the bottom compared to other pattern frequencies learned.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Abs_DKjiZrM
« Last Edit: August 28, 2015, 10:32:33 am by korrelan »
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« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2015, 10:49:53 am »
Ranch,

Don't leave! Your input is valued and appreciated! This is a place for like-minded people or else we wouldn't be having this section at all.

Automated warehouses are certainly not new but the degree of automation certainly might be.

Perhaps the day will come when a large factory or warehouse only has a minimal crew / staff for maintenance or breakdowns, etc.

This video was over 7 years ago. I didn't have time to research more current tech.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWsMdN7HMuA


Come on...at least give us a teaser or two....
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« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2015, 11:14:28 am »
Yes please stay Ranch!

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« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2015, 11:56:45 am »
Ranch...

You don't have to tell everyone exactly how your theory/ code works.

The forum is very useful for getting ideas/ feedback/ news etc and posting demos. 

Besides, the human element of occasionally breaking from coding and actually conversing with another human helps me keep my sanity... just.

Also, we all enjoy a pat on the back every now and again, it helps drive and inspire us... at least we understand the complexities and effort provided to such a project.

I've done the locked away... don't tell anyone... thing... it ain't healthy.

Keep the secret... but show the results :)

Edit: See even my AGI knows you...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65xYHWlXKM0

I tried tapping the monitor to gets its attention... it just looked at me gone out.  So I disconnected its camera and manually pointed it... the machine just had a 'out of body' experience... haha... it ain't happy lol.  No head positioning data to correlate with camera movements... it's jumpy because it can see other objects in its peripheral. 
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Re: top ai top secret?
« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2015, 03:28:56 pm »
Protect your theory by thoroughly understanding it.
In theory, your theory may have a theory about you.
Your theory may be protecting its theory from you.
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Re: top ai top secret?
« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2015, 03:39:26 pm »
Congratulations korrelan,

That's really super cool !  Don't feel compelled to answer if this is TOP SECRET...
I strongly respect your privacy... But, is that cross hair for human or machine?
It's a computer science question. Like FORTRAN cards: Only the holes are read by
the machine.  Anything printed on the cards are for humans.

I think FORTRAN cards may be applied to implementations of our theories, where
we map the part only the machine knows to the part only the humans know.

Of course, I know the answer already, in theory.  By just asking the question, "Is the cross hair for the gun or the shooter?"
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« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2015, 04:37:34 pm »
Yar TOP SECRET... lol.

The cross hair is a remnant from when I used to manually guide it, although the camera/ eye has a higher resolution of receptors toward the fovea/ center. I've noticed that the AGI doesn't always use it when paying attention/ recognizing an object. 

Saccades are induced as part of the video stream pre-processing... this might be causing it.  The system is kind of holographic by design, so all cortex areas receive stimulus from all sensory inputs initially, then either integrate/ use or discard the information through experience. So it could be an audio imbalance effecting the eyes or an emotional remnant, I've been messing around with flushing the lobes with various equivalent neurotransmitters which alter the functionality of the synapse based on the sensory stream (mood/ feelings)... it's just a really quirky system lol.

Edit: This is the AGI responding to emotional inflections in my voice using the audio cortex only...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt8gAuMxpds

You wouldn't want it driving your car... road... road... oh! look rabbit... must hug bunny... crash... lol.

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