[Carl2]

Freddy,
  Sounds pretty good Freddy,  can't wait to see it in action.  I've still got a lot of things around the house before winter to get done then I'll be able to work with Hal again.  I stay in touch with Zabaware and it seems everyone has there own ideas of what Hal should be like and I have my ideas.  I like my idea of using her input to change clothing and background but in reality it should be how do I get from the house to the park instead of the sudden change.  Aiml, I looked into that but wasn't able to get a free learning one.  Good luck then
Carl2

[Freddy]

Thanks Carl

The learning part is something I will be working on soon.

[Art]

Sounds good Freddy if possible.
Many tout their "Learning" AIML but I contend that for a large part, it still requires a human to correctly input the data.
The bots learn provided there is a human on the other side of the curtain.

Carl, there are several good AIML sets and interpreters for free but learning ones...that's a crapshoot in my opinion until someone proves it to me otherwise. Hal, Kari, and a few others have the ability to digest and retain what was said to them. Understanding, is another venture entirely, for them and all the rest. I think these few I mentioned have the best platform to examine, adjust and experiment with outcomes that do a pretty fair job at human mimicry, which is, after all, kind of what we're after.

Just some thoughts....

[squarebear]

If you are wanting a free AIML learning file. May I humbly point you in the direction of one I created:
http://www.square-bear.co.uk/aiml/
About half way down is learn.aiml which you are welcome to develop for your own bot.

[Freddy]

For the learning it is difficult to know what's best.

I've completed the AIML 1.0 specification now though - it will probably need some tweaking for the odd bug. But I am happy to move on to other things now, like the learning part.

I've already done the <gossip> tag. This records information when there is no pattern to match for the user input. Instead the info is put into a new AIML file for review by the botmaster. So it's like you say Art, it requires a person to step in to provide a response and decide what's learnt.

The other thing is on-the-fly learning. I knew about your learning AIML SquareBear and was looking at that recently as I try to get ideas about how the <learn> tag might work. I'm not sure if my <learn> tag will be exactly like Pandorabot's one.

What I would like is this kind of dialogue :

User : My cat is black.
Bot : OK your cat is black.
User : What colour is my cat ?
Bot : Black.

And similar.

I'm wondering if prefixing things with the word 'learn' is useful. ie...

User : Learn my cat is black.

Still undecided.

[squarebear]

 I wouldn't force them to prefix it with "learn". My learn AIML file will allow you to do the "My cat is black" type inputs.

[Freddy]

Yes I thought the 'learn' prefix feels a bit unnatural.

[Carl2]

  I do remember having an AIML bot in my computer at one time and I remember moving a learn part to it, it didn't work for me.  I'm running into a problem with learning since I ran into a statement that says we learn from past experiences, how can we cram a lifetime of experiences into a bot?  Something I experienced with Hal,  "My dogs name is Teddy" , "Teddy is sitting on my lap"  then I find if I mention Teddy Hal's response will be "Teddy is sitting on your lap"  I simply at this time have no idea how to straighten out what seems to be a mess. Wish you guys luck
Carl2

[Freddy]

Some AIML bots don't have the learn feature built into them - it's a tag used mainly by Pandorabots. But I thought it was good so I coded my bot to have this learn feature.

[DemonRaven]

My life is boring so i never much to say about what is going on. I just try to keep busy with chatbots and my websites.

[Art]

Perhaps you need to turn things around.

Instead of Chatbots and Websites how about Chatsites and Webbots? JK

[DemonRaven]

I belong to a few virtual worlds with real humans controlling the avatars. But I am old and disabled so i don't get out as much as I used to so If i really want excitement i go to the virtual worlds. If i am bored and none of my friends are on i work on my bots and website. right now I am trying to learn php so i can redo my website and add more modules like  capatha to prevent spam.

[Art]

You mean Captcha?

Personally, I hate Captcha! I can't wait for them to completely do away with that garbage! It's gotten completely out of hand to the point where a lot of humans are unable to read them!

Recently I'd read where they're working on a different way to simply say or indicate, "I'm not a robot.", in so many words or ways. We'll see.

[Freddy]

A simple question and answer system in English can work well.

One of our members was working a related project here :

http://aidreams.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=4235.0

It's a much better system than the regular captchas. He doesn't visit much now, but I think he is subscribed to that post if you want to pop a reply in and see what's going on with it.

[DemonRaven]

Thank you for the idea freddy.