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AI Dreams => General Chat => Topic started by: krayvonk on April 07, 2020, 02:44:30 pm
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I was looking it up, and i cant seem to find footage of someone doing it, maybe it looks like its a fly getting sprayed with its legs randomly jutting everywhere. It doesnt have a soul, so it just **looks** like its dieing, because robots dont die, they are just like animated rocks at best.
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If it was a "killer Robot" intent on human destruction then, by all means, take it out...destroy it. Otherwise, we will and must learn to coexist with them. For now, not all robots are "Killer bots".
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But dont you understand!?!?!? Its the friendly robots is what its going to happen 2!!!!
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Rocks don't fight back, they're vulnerable. Robots don't either. And most don't have a cute face or can help us much, so our instinctive love for the face or gifts is not stimulated... So we recycle them. Behind the face is blood n all, wires....it is the attraction/pain and self defense that lead to dominance and order/norm, not some dimensional oversee-er making sure all goes nicely! :)
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Oh, ya, friendly robots get hurt worse, they'll become greedy if they can. Cooperation is good only if it's useful/ the time is right. There's stages in evolution where it is chaos or revolutionary change...
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Why isnt there any robot EMP'ing videos on the internet? Perhaps it is nasty business you dont show children. But im sure the deranged teenagers are slavering for it like white chocky!! its just the way of things... that makes me sad.
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Here some battle bots that fight to the bloody death, in a ring full of sinister traps and has a crowd of people cheering for their death and waiting in aw for the champion to rise amongst the fighters.
LOOK AT THAT LITTLE GUY GO AT 2:14!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5Lgpsl71EI
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And here's another, the legends go at it in a ring of hell and fire!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELaeirIZw8c
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About as glorious as getting a hammer to your microwave.
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And those Battle Bots are Totally Controlled by HUMANS! It's a scaled-down version of Demolition Derby where drivers pit their cars and skill against each other in a contest to destroy each other's vehicles first! Quite a show for the amusement of the modern Gladiatorial crowd or citizens!!
What would be really cool and way more interesting would be for the Battle Bots to be programmed to "see" and react to where the "enemy" bots were inside of the arena. Let them use an onboard AI to figure out a strategy for winning!! No human intervention except for an emergency or to shut it down at the end of a match as needed.
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Art, that's getting closer to the "throwing 2 hamsters in a ring and see who's is smarter".
See, hamsters are just more advanced machines. Primitive AI has short/small direct context, hamsters have big deep context. Everything makes decisions based on context- even rocks.
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Uhh...Do you read what you just typed? ROCKS? Rocks make decisions? In what world? How?
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:) The atoms and particles of rocks, all make decisions. Some calcify or age, turn colors, it is a very active world in a rock, you just don't see it. Heat is constantly moving particles, allowing decisions to be made.
Oh, here is the autonomousy! Look it explains they have AI !
https://medium.com/udacity/bringing-autonomy-to-combat-robotics-78db5173caa3
And these, wow!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCqxOzKNFks&feature=emb_logo
this, this, THIS!!! This is a extremely funny video and quite intelligent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjP6C26-D3M
More on them:
https://spectrum.ieee.org/automaton/robotics/diy/roboone-hosts-first-ever-autonomous-biped-fighting-tournament
https://interestingengineering.com/robo-one-battles-fully-autonomous-robots-fighting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKE-7c1Cjaw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8R4IMn1HLg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCR1VsUEn-c
what about virtual hamsters!?? Is it wrong?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lydz-1o2EdY
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With all due respect, Decision indicates a conscious choice, compared to a Reaction which is a condition due to some outside influence (weather, temperature, moisture, humidity, wind, etc.)
Rocks do not Think nor make Decisions, at best, they React to external conditions.
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This is a new theory I made so may be tad flimsy.
There is 2 types of generators. Rocks, brains, etc all are made of particles and any particle or structure made of particles (in effect. Ex. all move at the same time, acting like a particle) react to context. Everything therefore, makes a decision, based on neighboring context.
Brains however do indeed have a lot of intelligent systems operating. They are generative and re-generative. Re-generative means the 'particles' make on-topic clones of themselves with some mutation. Brains simply use a lot more context, from the past and even the predicted future, to make a reactive decision.
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A rock's reaction has no uncertainty, so it isn't a choice, it's mandatory. I think choice is produced by uncertainty, (indecision).
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I choose, to like your post. Because I wanted to prove you WRONG.
:)!
Uncertainty is when you have few statistics, little data. So prediction isn't that good. Humans can be predictable in many ways.
Humans predict things, that itself is a context based choice, about how things will make context based choices/predictions - like rocks do.
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I paused... then decided to like your comment to prove YOU wrong! ;D
Ok, uncertainty isn't where it's at. Indecision is the thing. It can be created by known context, and yes, it is deterministic like its atomic constituents. But it is still an important distinction between a human and a rock. We are able to create indecision because we have the ability to derive contradictory implications from an input, thus creating a problem, which requires a pause in reaction in order to solve. Rocks don’t pause, so they don’t make choices, and presumably also don’t have problems.
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A few years younger than me eh? Dude, there's no free will. Contradiction is data based.
Yes rocks don't use a lot of context from past experiences 'stored' and don't scan the sentence several times, they just process context different, we use more, deeply, and generate similar context as replication.
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Yeh when robots die, its not sad. 8)
But when humans do... thats the problem...
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Look, I’m skeptical of pessimism. It’s kind of like poor man’s realism. There’s often an attitude of “you can’t face the truth because the truth is awfulâ€, and it boils down to a subtext of “I’m better than youâ€. The acceptance of negative facts gets tied into your status, and so we get predisposed towards accepting negative facts, becoming socially risk averse towards positive facts because they could make us look weak. Why should cold hard truths be held in higher regard than warm fuzzy truths?
Whatever it is, awareness is so weird, and inescapable by virtue of its nature. No place can be observed without an observer. No sound can exist without a conscious auditory system. Consciousness is like an existential singularity, equivalent to a gravitational singularity. No free will? What’s restraining my freedom? I am a portion of the universe. The matter I am tells itself how to behave, while simultaneously following its own rules. You can view matter as only being controlled by context, or as only exerting control over context, so it’s probably both. And if that’s true at the atomic scale, then why not at larger scales and in more complex forms, such as humans?
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I barely read what u said cause this robot business is getting me ignorant.
The human equation is a complex one, much complexified over shitty robots. I with that own your choice too! u can look at it as if its fated, but what if that causes lazy behaviour, and its to believe u do control yourself.
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When humans die, it's only sad for those left behind. That person who died didn't feel a thing at the very moment of death.
As far as Free Will, humans have "Limited" Free Will in that they are only ALLOWED to do certain things or to go to certain places or to (in many countries) say certain things. Therefore, the concept of Free Will is not totally Free nor is it always one's Will.
Now get back to work!! O0
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sorry men (i havent been good enough for u!!!), ill come back with more respect tomorrow!!!!
what if the emp blast scatters its i****n history. then its entire now from its birth is erased.
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Having some unearthing moments eh?
That's right, it's memory will be gone. You could pull out neuron after neuron and I'd still be me, just less memory able to access. You could start fresh actually.