would emp gunning a robot make you feel sad?

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would emp gunning a robot make you feel sad?
« on: April 07, 2020, 02:44:30 PM »
I was looking it up, and i cant seem to find footage of someone doing it,  maybe it looks like its a fly getting sprayed with its legs randomly jutting everywhere.  It doesnt have a soul, so it just **looks** like its dieing, because robots dont die, they are just like animated rocks at best.

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Re: would emp gunning a robot make you feel sad?
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2020, 02:55:15 PM »
If it was a "killer Robot" intent on human destruction then, by all means, take it out...destroy it. Otherwise, we will and must learn to coexist with them. For now, not all robots are "Killer bots".
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Re: would emp gunning a robot make you feel sad?
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2020, 03:07:55 PM »
But dont you understand!?!?!?  Its the friendly robots is what its going to happen 2!!!!

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Re: would emp gunning a robot make you feel sad?
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2020, 03:55:11 PM »
Rocks don't fight back, they're vulnerable. Robots don't either. And most don't have a cute face or can help us much, so our instinctive love for the face or gifts is not stimulated... So we recycle them. Behind the face is blood n all, wires....it is the attraction/pain and self defense that lead to dominance and order/norm, not some dimensional oversee-er making sure all goes nicely! :)
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Re: would emp gunning a robot make you feel sad?
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2020, 03:57:38 PM »
Oh, ya, friendly robots get hurt worse, they'll become greedy if they can. Cooperation is good only if it's useful/ the time is right. There's stages in evolution where it is chaos or revolutionary change...
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Re: would emp gunning a robot make you feel sad?
« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2020, 04:17:55 PM »
Why isnt there any robot EMP'ing videos on the internet?  Perhaps it is nasty business you dont show children.  But im sure the deranged teenagers are slavering for it like white chocky!! its just the way of things... that makes me sad.

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Re: would emp gunning a robot make you feel sad?
« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2020, 04:54:52 PM »
Here some battle bots that fight to the bloody death, in a ring full of sinister traps and has a crowd of people cheering  for their death and waiting in aw for the champion to rise amongst the fighters.

LOOK AT THAT LITTLE GUY GO AT 2:14!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5Lgpsl71EI
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Re: would emp gunning a robot make you feel sad?
« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2020, 05:01:54 PM »
And here's another, the legends go at it in a ring of hell and fire!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELaeirIZw8c
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Re: would emp gunning a robot make you feel sad?
« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2020, 06:13:21 PM »
About as glorious as getting a hammer to your microwave.

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Re: would emp gunning a robot make you feel sad?
« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2020, 03:31:43 AM »
And those Battle Bots are Totally Controlled by HUMANS! It's a scaled-down version of Demolition Derby where drivers pit their cars and skill against each other in a contest to destroy each other's vehicles first! Quite a show for the amusement of the modern Gladiatorial crowd or citizens!!

What would be really cool and way more interesting would be for the Battle Bots to be programmed to "see" and react to where the "enemy" bots were inside of the arena. Let them use an onboard AI to figure out a strategy for winning!! No human intervention except for an emergency or to shut it down at the end of a match as needed.


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Re: would emp gunning a robot make you feel sad?
« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2020, 04:08:28 AM »
Art, that's getting closer to the "throwing 2 hamsters in a ring and see who's is smarter".

See, hamsters are just more advanced machines. Primitive AI has short/small direct context, hamsters have big deep context. Everything makes decisions based on context- even rocks.
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Re: would emp gunning a robot make you feel sad?
« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2020, 01:44:25 PM »
Uhh...Do you read what you just typed? ROCKS?  Rocks make decisions? In what world? How?
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Re: would emp gunning a robot make you feel sad?
« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2020, 03:48:54 PM »
:) The atoms and particles of rocks, all make decisions. Some calcify or age, turn colors, it is a very active world in a rock, you just don't see it. Heat is constantly moving particles, allowing decisions to be made.



Oh, here is the autonomousy! Look it explains they have AI !
https://medium.com/udacity/bringing-autonomy-to-combat-robotics-78db5173caa3

And these, wow!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCqxOzKNFks&feature=emb_logo

this, this, THIS!!! This is a extremely funny video and quite intelligent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjP6C26-D3M

More on them:
https://spectrum.ieee.org/automaton/robotics/diy/roboone-hosts-first-ever-autonomous-biped-fighting-tournament
https://interestingengineering.com/robo-one-battles-fully-autonomous-robots-fighting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKE-7c1Cjaw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8R4IMn1HLg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCR1VsUEn-c

what about virtual hamsters!?? Is it wrong?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lydz-1o2EdY
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Re: would emp gunning a robot make you feel sad?
« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2020, 07:27:38 PM »
With all due respect, Decision indicates a conscious choice, compared to a Reaction which is a condition due to some outside influence (weather, temperature, moisture, humidity, wind, etc.)

Rocks do not Think nor make Decisions, at best, they React to external conditions.
 
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Re: would emp gunning a robot make you feel sad?
« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2020, 10:04:37 PM »
This is a new theory I made so may be tad flimsy.

There is 2 types of generators. Rocks, brains, etc all are made of particles and any particle or structure made of particles (in effect. Ex. all move at the same time, acting like a particle) react to context. Everything therefore, makes a decision, based on neighboring context.

Brains however do indeed have a lot of intelligent systems operating. They are generative and re-generative. Re-generative means the 'particles' make on-topic clones of themselves with some mutation. Brains simply use a lot more context, from the past and even the predicted future, to make a reactive decision.
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