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« Reply #45 on: July 29, 2016, 07:09:52 pm »
Excellent feedback, Art.  Good catch, by the way!
Your feedback was very useful.  Thanks for helping.
Thank you everyone for helping.

This alpha test may begin to seem final, but it is not. 
The sole purpose of this alpha test is for learning
about an A.I. engine, and about an A.I. interface.
Like you said before, Art: It is a test bed, which was
a good way to put it.  That's exactly what it is.

This test bed is starting to become more fun though.
Time will tell, but I suspect some new techniques may
have been learned designing this brand A.I. engine.
Reality check though, A.I. engines take years to finish.

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Re: Technology
« Reply #46 on: August 06, 2016, 01:09:14 am »
Yay! Animated the avatar...  Woo Hoo!  Now, the three dimensions may stand out a bit
more.  As discussed, this is a rudimentary avatar of simple filled shapes. Makes the 3D math less to do. However, it turned out to be sort of funny, I think.  So, it serves the purpose for early alpha testing.

Goes without saying an avatar this simplistic does not really need a 3D engine.  Yet,
this is a alpha test run, so a more detailed avatar may be too high maintenance for now.
The amount of math and numbers as an avatar gets more realistic quickly goes way up.
Using an preexisting solution is much easier and nicer looking than rolling your own 3D.
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Re: Technology
« Reply #47 on: August 06, 2016, 02:35:50 pm »
Interesting Quadrilateral but I'd really need to see an additional side or two at the same time in order to convince me that it is indeed, a 3-dimentional shape. Otherwise, it appears that it is multiple images, each with slightly different configurations to present the appearance of just a 3-D face since only one plane is shown at a time.

Not trying to jerk your chain but as a former 3D modeler, such things quickly become apparent.

Yes, to animate a 3D head or even a cube can take a lot of processing power so plan your movement wisely to conserve.

If time permits, check out Aaron Snow's project, Athena, which uses a 3D cube as an animated head. Might serve as some wood for the fire, so-to-speak.

You're getting there my friend!
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Re: Technology
« Reply #48 on: August 11, 2016, 03:32:08 pm »
Art mentioned, "it appears that it is multiple images"

You're right about that.  3D is unnecessary for such a simple avatar.   It could easily be replaced by a series of images.  So, your feedback inspired me to possibly redo it as cubic shapes, but that will increase the amount of 3D mathematics.  The way it is now, the script is light weight.

For now, if you view source, you find it is a PHP script, rather than a series of images, or even an image. 

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<IMG ID="frame" SRC="avatar.php">

In addition, you could right click and view image, and then press F5 to refresh the frames repeatedly.  This shows the frames generated on the fly.  Neither of these suggestions are a hundred percent proof, but they are pretty good indicators it is a 3D program.  Ah!  Just for fun, maybe I'll throw in a timestamp to track the script execution.

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Re: Technology
« Reply #49 on: August 12, 2016, 12:08:15 am »
Instead of a timestamp, which looked too machine like, I chose a short random response centered in each frame.  So, between the random three x,y,z dimensions, phrases and visemes (mouth postures)... If it were a series of images, it would take a very wide scope to do this.  However, Art is still right to point out that it is certainly possible to do this with an extensive series of prerendered images, like an automatic slideshow. Using 3D is overkill for an avatar this simple.  So I respect Art's opinion, and impressions as valuable feedback.  Maybe, I should add a drop shadow to make the 3D look more convincing?



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« Reply #50 on: August 12, 2016, 02:32:01 am »
The avatar is tracking itself now, and moving around smoothly on its own.

For this first alpha test, the avatar movements are confined to a loop.

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« Reply #51 on: August 12, 2016, 03:20:37 pm »
The drop shadow is nice. Movements are slower and smooth. Right, you really don't need a 3D avatar for this exercise.
So how is the A.I. progressing?
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Re: Technology
« Reply #52 on: August 13, 2016, 08:27:03 am »
Art asked, "So how is the A.I. progressing?"

Code
You:	So how is your A.I. progressing?
A.I: Guess.

This experiment is beginner level A.I.

Code
You:	Can you do math?
A.I: Let me think.

You: OK
A.I: No I don't think I can do math.

You: Why not?
A.I: Because you asked me to.

Yet, there is much to learn at the beginner level.
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« Reply #53 on: August 13, 2016, 11:51:20 am »
Looks promising. Keep it up! :D
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