1950's style perceptron circuit

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1950's style perceptron circuit
« on: February 09, 2023, 01:31:29 pm »


So you can make a little box that can see pictures,    its very similar to Frank Rosenblatts invention from ages ago.

Heres a picture of him->


ok so ive got a circuit, I have the stuff in my house so I might put it together, see if it works!

so its a lowpixel ldr screen. (and u have to make the occluders for each of its eye pixels) connected up to potentiometres, which you synch up to the output.

you have to synch it whilst its looking at the pictures, and then do it until youve gone over the pots 2-3 times, and then it should respond to the pictures by itself, after its set.

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Re: 1950's style perceptron circuit
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2023, 01:47:27 pm »
wait...  I think ive forgotten something,  I need negative polarity!

Ill be back with a corrected circuit.  brb.

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Re: 1950's style perceptron circuit
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2023, 01:57:45 pm »
heres the circuit fix, just need to add a little negative bias at the motor,  so the dial can go left and right, otherwise u cant recorrect backwards.

you need to make it a separate battery,   note the batteries will go in series and its a bit of a waste of power,  but it should still work,  just put a resistor there so it doesnt waste the battery tooquickly.
Also the potentiometres need to be set so the dial isn't turning.

And maybe instead of powering off one battery, maybe u make all the lines separate powered maybe with capacitors with resisors segregating it, so you dont get load hogging error on the pots.



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Re: 1950's style perceptron circuit
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2023, 02:22:59 pm »
ok so theres a prob with the fix, I need the dial to go back and forth with the potetiometre opening and closing
I couldnt think of how to do it just with powering it, but if u add 2 diodes like how I show, and run it on ac instead,
then it should work.


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Re: 1950's style perceptron circuit
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2023, 04:49:19 pm »
Do you need an H-bridge?

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Re: 1950's style perceptron circuit
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2023, 01:08:33 am »
Ive been hard at work!  Real physical neural network! =)


Writerofminds -  no h-bridge, its a little wasteful currentwise as it is,  the potentiometres (synapse weights) act as the negative and positive gate to go leftways and rightways through the motor.


Heres a falstad sim for it->   (sorry camera isnt fully connected, because it just got too messy i couldnt connect it all,  i wanted to put enough for a letter or number, but didnt quite get there.)

The camera actually is just composed of hard on off switches in this sim,  but you can replace them with LDR's.

Instead of a motor on a spring,  its a capacitor with a discharge loop on it,  and u get the peak volt reading of the cap,   for one sensor and synapse setting.

https://www.falstad.com/circuit/circuitjs.html?ctz=CQAgjCAMB0l3BWEBmAHAJmgdgGzoRmACzICcpkORIR1SCkICApgLRhgBQYW16RjZMhwh8IoSIhh4UaKVQJp8ZfAgAlZgGcAlpoAuAQwB2AY2acA7uFoph4UulsjIl+44luUkai6tgHXnwI4t5QrmKBosEo6Iy+oljudsgISc6cACYoqU40cLmOGcwAZgYArgA2epl5gnYCjOioqKIgRaWV1VYNos21CY7xPeiJovwDYVbo4yOO09Qe8fMFArlD+R5EVGucJjTbHoppULLKEKzI0DiouDi46KQIvAr4p5BcAE77C-XbTS2MJQuL5HXKg-4nIGuLZ8PrgvrxZBzaJPEQReKoqIiTGLVygw64HYAByYYDmo2CjVGEDieLJExhOyslIm+Ls8QOdjJLVxViRWJA7DR0XiQoFYt5grA4nZTJAnPExxcADcTh5+YtwLVGEg4rIEOFxsIWss0D5oRtrmMFlaXFkemb+sbWu1ylVXAdUNQiDyvWEeHxVo6Io6pDIYIgQBodPpjGZXP53H7E9lBgmAilkeIcktopmBc6lqNHfnHXbUyg-Q6-YUSm6utbK4HBH71i3vZ7zVZO+Amk3Jo2iNLB-y2zRh8sh+l7fkSI4elOXXXOh7vfyfTRR9xeKJVnOBfuw-kYPJFCpz+otLpDKZzH4bIeAvv4inH-Pj+n341oj1cyJhj+w5FvOGo5M+NT5vuC78rWHTulM4z7vwjDgd0s7rtsqHymujjcpuaYIR2fCIagtJoShfyIds5YLqR-SMrB9arjQdEbj6tIBruKF0RE7FakCbxING15xne1jenRr50S+T6SU+G4yfOG68Qp4Q-spP7UeEox8ZB0kQWBrGzjxbTLvBg48Xu+nkSxFESWR2G2b2LR8S+NihhmrYJjYqQtCmvkDtseDUHhwUDj0YWMmFSzjGFyHyuM5b5pF+RxaZcENrMCULDk0VqdiAQRDgkAAp+TCFSiASKdlngIFV3nUGFKZ5Zx8VxdETXgOGcgKEC55wJeMY3vG3aNSRNU0aliGpSVS4ZRajDFSasWzTFjWzcseWjUwhJ4ZiY6Yoy+2GnQhLxcdWT5od+SYoxK5TBShJXYSf5MDYEQstVCDvSiNhfbtATfV24k7ZIgMvduzagwKmJHnEsCQEJV6xrezGHS0F39NdOrFXNTE2SyyyfSdTC40TEPbQFe19gdfZHTTJMBedDOXTkAU9Ez6X46yfZXQzUw-qQwrYvS1VEELB4S19favlLkNcUwfYfTLXXHtASNDaJaN0xjLNY3TN30nd5kc0b4ygmtpJzOb-ONqRjTjKgQELSA9t2x+M6ME7-75G7xsNts3ssa7zutasQcREHcP6lGyPDWJKZRwEWBeX4yc1tEKfAxEWcCm7wEh9mjhB0lORBz0Edc-ddsTuHzs2eXgf145Ud9iXJNest1CoFpDfKY7qme67mG+8pVfmYHmEtD35ph17fzRDP-HdRrImo-e3fbInveeEvidbmnxcwYvB958fIidwOWVL-mS+l8XI-z3w4+ZY7fzhzvFeYZPwM-85w-Z0dhLZYpBRYu1QMAoB05+igK-K7YBL9mKwODsglwc8QDIIiMg6OMBV4oxGiDbBARUFlSIcXayu8eKLwoZHKhF85YPUcMg-MJDWZMPpD0TBiDCIYKNqsEhNlkGMgEY5bBfYRHEG7sOROzdJHympAEO4BFHK4D8n2VR4V8gaMZBoy2Gj4q6IMo4bRWirT+20sYq0+ZDECxEFgOwOccxlXscLEALiBwpg0Z49kDU3FWk8baeWBizGZ38areGeD47MW0S0QxQ8TGMCwDkcxNkknW2oGkq+4xMnLBsSo2I-9EgOR6EU74biCl6IKQYipRjykoS0VU7hExSnWJqbY+UfQc6hGqtcE0HUETOIKc1AZG86meFKWgnc1Tvx2KGeEmOwl8FiW2KUjcEyaglIKSU0IKT+hYB2dk7pJN9nEQyW0xySj-6XLHJcqKoxLaXLavc2ptzUqjF2VlS5yVnntKoDM+UIoyp-IFMCnpCjHCgqCasR5HVqTzNwbHTW68Lk6RaNcjZby4E4GiLsiKOLYqAp4ditEsUfmNjJDBcYZJVI2Qpek3sW4h7UpcvkOleNq5b34C5NRql0HMoFPynB6tEVrwISmQVAQySyMlegCc0QpXpHaQqgV6BT5ZX5fmfl99exsVZVy9l5llj8vilql2-LGSmu2oKmW+rLbcgdiFB4ir+j2vJU0WkTKnUuvdQagOjqJYbjJHLPlXqIhBskPC4ViyomjPDZ4ON1U43ivQDvZNC9JApuzvKzNKqaHUi9Zqr12q409DjR8qlobVgJrNV6i1RbmJJptQw8lSIu7gGQH9M1raW161LR270rLu27K3v24OYBR2TKhuOn6khR1CsiVrWNc7JUTrKtOkKK6wGH3bUbeVyAt0Cv3Vmdttt1Wjs1auth7aHyDvek0o1o6TWrtpaOi1z7HLrv-p+tyjrA0yppSDcdkqV31StT6NRflwOaMBFBi1UG7VQZNfB2pxA+ilsQ-e6kUHNXIaVUQHF8qiBkvFfh1xxBCXxqgyRijcjUN+UlchvliHCN9HnSKpZDbYOQYGUy2DrKiNzCaeh95VKBNZJCmJo1uGP20EBDLWT0HxJ2SU+JlTSHVjFoU+h1YHysNBhyJIhyYaBB9MkEQRKa6TMCqs4mhTJHVq+MM5RjTUKYM6cI1WyNC7kVby05BlzvG9z8ZmEJ4LpzrAWZ4cQGYomXNWrILhGWCXFNAfnCO0DLbCpVuS8W5LfbCqYdwsli9GWw3CH+eOim8byuHtxom5L4qauToVqlw9kqvPsZjR+vLfkcsYsBHlwdZ1QsDbOlS5AVWH1jZCn1qLJU20cCObS+b5KVuTUBNIAdgIVvDpCptsd+3msmv22G-bbHo2LvjWdyVkBiM3fefK27yiw1PYFWtix4B9uasOyh-bpaTv3qpSdqtP3aV-a3qDj9Z2ZaQ6NeOkle2nFg4cUDnxTKwBgVZfD31DaMfzj8nj-0UyQfJPlYT87cdLu0fJ5Kwniaae4TJA5cVTOBWs9ehwKpZOfGMM+zkb7Tir0cExxt5JgPEdzBJ8o-7YEIdI6hwZmH8u4c1grR+MHqu9teU9bOLHNYmmcuMr2D8Ib8hhtiICDrF3kW0Yt-Gu3ia7cs8CdujgITJDSlKkqz3bPU4TCZ4IRXHsKwB+9Wb8XxvGhVodzW2chuHLx6-TH2N13GdLcIbjFMQsE8hURhmvyeeUuF4tYXu1heTWl5Q8X1l5fCtdTzAZyvSrIAzEe3F+NLegiSE7x4m78qbuRcA4X8Vle+Xl8e-Kq3lOfO55-AXwFTLq-bZ0yNrqOmqXeCMxv9fs-nVbzgBB1WXuXUH7KUoY-RrT8V4c0L0-par91-PyH0-r1SBnWiOQZRWf38iDf86kfs03+-+NgT+ABpUY+G0j2gBU+SKBC++s0gaL+-WR+MCBWro1cnChU4wn+qmOBl+Dm202e-8RBY4RBwidWJMRB8UJBtSZB+QVBdeRBLCFB7SDgpmGCna26bBAo3B1URBWeDM6CVBH+meMBoqyy1AZBLQNBQ8dBjApAd66BJs9B702BnBjYCh4WNB3QmEGECwfujIfEhhp89MLkU8xS2wh0lhtsUUVEp0zqdyaWY0wMOiWyQUZKOiVorhFhUi-4KyLuZSS8jI7cOhkhHCf8Qw2wZBURB6JeCBURLBZ+xe8Bx+Fq4Ou+4UcuThn26edaceEumRv6Zhjq6uZ+tanKAGb6D4nKzab6T4I66hcGe46W0uvmaGvm7eG4JYSo0ILk64voLh3K3E+E4Uus3KTkQwGMhIG4AUkxNUMxVWG4tyaKg+ayWyaKHhsSXhsS5yG45cWxqR08U8hcoxvC+OACpxUhZxpxT+G42hY6xeBeBBB2oQiBFGgahOHxuRaiRuwu0uPK4xoecxJaAJNxr6aitRvWsk16gxKmgas2Y6XGKmkR+hREOwmggotALkw4rAUEQEWopQFQmg5gGJFwVYOJzoi4eohJxJnApJSIKEFJrx+JEANJJJgovEOJ8UVJJwbJdJHJmk1ArA3J1EvJBgRJ7JFwbhQpyArxoprJ4ptJ9JVY2wFwXhopjAfJpJWJZSuJehkIIAWpmJMxuMepjgn0YpEp-JZJdAppzoFpmpipkpDJpMjAFwoQDphpTp1pH0pp50dWlpSpApIsjgwpqwFsgZzpBSoI7pdAoskZ1pjoMZ9p8ZjpVp2pMx9IZpVsJwaZQZuJSx0Q2ZxKuZXp6ZgojoJZapaKIoCZ9JBSVZspjUtZeZkpRURZbULZZZ+ZRUs0YZi0q0dZFZDZfZTZ8og5rZiZfoS0FZVoM51J3pGZaKfZ+485CZVgBZ2JIgm5UoVWO57AhIEsB5zqR5PA+eco2Zi42ZQoDk150obmUoiRciN5IMkoNp4425jo7Ats753508bpeE8QdEf5-8ZYrg1ZH5s5LQ7AB6EFMFuEppnOHiiF9IciYFG5LpV5LprAFCUpbpdEqpFChFcmfRyiwpaGXJfQrAO85F0FW8hI1FwMZ5mJ-mIxooY5V5EIVJ4FnJ25EQuJx+wpRZbE0FlRolh+rkPFe4XJqwUpA4-Zw5ngcl1UclciklG5OpjIuJmEzc2l3oOJFqzqel4Aioj5A4-IYo1MglUEqpi43FGlw4V5i4p8uJw4MEs0aqHluEPkP5joWlC4AGuJs4G4QVi0wMoVjk-IO8UVjqUxRllJqpmwpRFw9Q+QKVF8t5HgkkGVyFrsD5x0GF0pFZ9QgVmwIVY5SF7FoQlVn2yiG2iWKx4VXFqpXFgVrV0F6q6hwpemZlcioo0iIBNgW0wZupWUOpooY1IVRqe501n5uEe5-IzFoUZKClWlk4Ll61oZyw8UE1Mwslyk7eAlLWQ1K1OpMZ+IfurAF1Qp4IK1t1oZdC8lj1eE6yDlIZmJEsb54s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So if I times this thing by x,y,z -  you get a real physical neural network,  its just doable!    and it has a just usable store size.    No activation function in this network,
 its just purely linear. (but works fine for any data type, even vector graphics!) At each potentiometre its better if it were a transistor,  this one (without the transistor) can only make the signal quieter,  if you had transistors then you can go louder and quieter,  so would be slightly better.

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Re: 1950's style perceptron circuit
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2023, 03:09:50 pm »
After uve trained it on the computer
This will go straight into the input of the h-bridges,   one for each hinge on the robot!

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Re: 1950's style perceptron circuit
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2023, 06:14:38 pm »
Heres a software test for it I did.


 


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