Artificial Scientist Project

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Re: Artificial Scientist Project
« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2011, 09:51:40 am »
You need a little bit more specificity. Its too general. Too broad.
Have you tested the theory? What are the results?
published presentation is intended to tease beginners in ai.
the theory is borrowed from classic theorem proving method that exists already for a while. one thing i find particularly hot is genetic programming: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_programming

My theory is similar to yours but my end goal is quite different. You are working on recognizing people's intentions. While I'm working on an AGI system that would also be able to not only recognize people's intents, but also recognize what they know and predict what actions they are going to make based on what they know.
have you found a way to recognize people's intensions?

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Re: Artificial Scientist Project
« Reply #16 on: September 09, 2011, 10:30:02 am »
Cool! Wasn't that the premise in the movie, The Minority Report?

I'm sure the program works on a much smaller scale and is more language
oriented than thought / action oriented but not far removed from the typing
assist programs that are usually found on smart phone when texting. As one
enters / types text, words appear from which to select based on the partial
word you are typing.

Perhaps it could also be geared toward sentence context....
Art, are you sure you're in a right topic?

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Re: Artificial Scientist Project
« Reply #17 on: September 09, 2011, 06:24:20 pm »
have you found a way to recognize people's intensions?

Not yet. I'm still in the early stages of coding my theory.

I'm at stage 1 and in that is step 1. which is programming the basic layout of the knowledge base representation (which is different from the memory base because its dynamic and ever changing, while the memory base is static.)



That is a basic sample I manually did. Basically the end goal is a cluster of words connected to each other by word links, forming a knowledge base based on language just like we humans have. The second step is the difficult one, that is programming an algorithm based on thought (thinking) which takes dialogues in example from the movie "Inception", finds patterns in them and then map it to its KB.

That will be the core of the AI, "A dynamic ever changing thought processing system"

There will be no grammar, or sentence parser. Nothing will be manually entered into the KB either

The end goal of stage 1 is is to allows the ai not just to map kb, but to think with its KB in real time aswell. In essence forming words, phrases, sentences all by it self, in its own mind.

The next coming technology age is AGI. It will be a trillion dollar industry, who ever figures it out will be the next Microsoft, Apple, etc. I believe it will be solved in 5 years by someone. But I believe I can do it in 24 months. ^-^

Every possible help, suggestions is welcomed.
I would like to design a site and make a topic, but I want to wait till after stage 1.
« Last Edit: September 09, 2011, 06:32:59 pm by Genesis »

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Re: Artificial Scientist Project
« Reply #18 on: September 09, 2011, 06:48:43 pm »
The next coming technology age is AGI. It will be a trillion dollar industry, who ever figures it out will be the next Microsoft, Apple, etc. I believe it will be solved in 5 years by someone. But I believe I can do it in 24 months. ^-^

Welcome to the site. Hope to see your project on a new topic and read more. Once you are at stage 2, let's see if those 24 months doesn't turn into ...a LOT more. ;)  My theory sure looked a lot more simple than the actual prototyping which exposes the endless amounts of exceptions in the human language. But I do agree with you that whoever cracks the nut will be a very wealthy man/woman.

We'll see how far away we really are. Like someone said about the fusion power industry. It's the industry that has been 20 years away from the big breakthrough for more than 30 years.

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Re: Artificial Scientist Project
« Reply #19 on: September 09, 2011, 09:54:39 pm »
hello genesys
i agree, no hard-coded examples. just general rules. O0

Actualy, there is a way to separate dynamic part of data from static one. We can treat dynamic data as blackbox that can be watched by static part of knowledge. Then, according to input from blackbox, static part of knowledge can adjust output to the same or to some other blackbox that is constantly watching for static output. So output to some blackbox is constantly changing according to input from the same or some other blackbox.
now, blackbox can be anything that represents dynamic data, but it must have interfaces for reading / writing its data.  if those interfaces are known to static part and if we have a basic knowledge about some blackbox, we can use the static part to control blackbox' states in cannonical burst of input blackbox. So there go side efects, right into blackboxes.

boy, this was a hard one. it took me at least ten years for getting this idea. :'(

greetings from zombie room!

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Re: Artificial Scientist Project
« Reply #20 on: September 10, 2011, 02:07:04 am »
Cool! Wasn't that the premise in the movie, The Minority Report?

I'm sure the program works on a much smaller scale and is more language
oriented than thought / action oriented but not far removed from the typing
assist programs that are usually found on smart phone when texting. As one
enters / types text, words appear from which to select based on the partial
word you are typing.

Perhaps it could also be geared toward sentence context....
Art, are you sure you're in a right topic?

i get it... it's a joke, right? very funny, ha, ha...

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Re: Artificial Scientist Project
« Reply #21 on: September 10, 2011, 05:44:36 pm »
Cool! Wasn't that the premise in the movie, The Minority Report?

I'm sure the program works on a much smaller scale and is more language
oriented than thought / action oriented but not far removed from the typing
assist programs that are usually found on smart phone when texting. As one
enters / types text, words appear from which to select based on the partial
word you are typing.

Perhaps it could also be geared toward sentence context....
Art, are you sure you're in a right topic?

i get it... it's a joke, right? very funny, ha, ha...
:2funny:

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Re: Artificial Scientist Project
« Reply #22 on: September 10, 2011, 11:47:53 pm »
Art, you're killing me. it took me two days to get the joke, and now i can't stop laughing! mercy!!! :2funny:

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Re: Artificial Scientist Project
« Reply #23 on: September 11, 2011, 02:21:28 am »
That's it...I'm reporting you to myself! :knuppel2: ;)

<try not to take yourself too seriously around here>
We won't either! ::)
In the world of AI, it's the thought that counts!

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Re: Artificial Scientist Project
« Reply #24 on: September 12, 2011, 08:58:32 pm »
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The next coming technology age is AGI. It will be a trillion dollar industry, who ever figures it out will be the next Microsoft, Apple, etc.
a trilion? i would like to make money obsolete. people could just push the button and get food, bikes, cars, goodies and everything!
what? no way, people, find your own girls, i'll bann that button :)

by the way, these days i have made some progress with knowledge base representation. still working...

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Re: Artificial Scientist Project
« Reply #25 on: September 12, 2011, 11:02:37 pm »
That's it...I'm reporting you to myself! :knuppel2: ;)

<try not to take yourself too seriously around here>
We won't either! ::)
i'm reporting myself for stupidity  ^-^

yes, it's something like those cellphone's prediction of what word we want. like we know first letter (current state of some system), but we know last letter also (wanted state of the system). And we know what words exist, meaning how can we can get last letter starting from first letter (what sequences of actions we can apply). but ai could have addition of combining words (i'll report cellphones too).
pretty simple, right?

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Re: Artificial Scientist Project
« Reply #26 on: September 13, 2011, 03:20:32 pm »
sets & elements linked :)
https://sites.google.com/site/binaryrelationalmodeling/brm.swf

next stop: dynamics

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Re: Artificial Scientist Project
« Reply #27 on: September 14, 2011, 04:13:07 am »
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The next coming technology age is AGI. It will be a trillion dollar industry, who ever figures it out will be the next Microsoft, Apple, etc.
a trilion? i would like to make money obsolete. people could just push the button and get food, bikes, cars, goodies and everything!
what? no way, people, find your own girls, i'll bann that button :)

Seeing that everything in the next technologic age will be run by smart AI.
Cars, Flying cars, military vehicles, home systems, phone systems, camera systems, businesses, companies, etc...

Its quite plausibly the first person who achieves the goal will end up creating a company that could be worth trillions.
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Re: Artificial Scientist Project
« Reply #28 on: September 17, 2011, 03:07:23 pm »
i think i solved dynamics too, without throwing away functional dependencies:
https://sites.google.com/site/binaryrelationalmodeling/brm-elems

as with attach:
input set could be console or microphone.
output set could be console or speaker.

think it's not hard to make kb by observing input and inducting
consequences as happenings. it's not hard to reach wanted
state of the universe once we built the kb.

remains: to detect states we want to reach.
does anyone have any idea?

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Re: Artificial Scientist Project
« Reply #29 on: September 18, 2011, 08:05:21 pm »
How is the knowledge going to be collected and mapped? (ex; learning.)

 


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