[Korrelan]

I'm in a state of perfection, it's ALL done, and I have a huge database.

As a theoretical exercise lets say I agreed to build your system.

Where would you have me start?

[kei10]

I will need a million, plus a fleet of programmers, so I must prove my idea no I cannot make it by myself. It needs a human body.

Dun dun dun...... Time to get to work on creating a human body! -- Just kidding.

Well, korrelan, I hope you're kidding about doing it. O________________o I mean, I don't think... that by any chance that this will happen any time soon, I mean, you know, creating a human body, as the theory doesn't work without one, does it? -- does it have to be a real body? Just wondering.

[Korrelan]

does it have to be a real body?

I have a couple of mates ‘Burke and Hare’ who can help with the raw materials, and I'm quite accomplished at stitching lol… Now where did I put those bolts?

I did say as a ‘theoretical exercise’. 

I'm interested in the design specifics, memory type/ design, connectome design, cortex design, neuron types, sensors etc.

The gap between theory and practical/ physical implementation is my point.

[Art]

Aside from all those individual "synthetic" parts that could and do replace damaged or non-working parts and organs, scientists seem to be collectively working on another side of this thought.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2016/06/02/after-secret-harvard-meeting-scientists-publish-proposal-to-create-synthetic-human-genomes/

Lovely...just what the world needs.

Uhh...guys...better hurry up with your home-brewed android cause the real thing might soon be knocking on your door!

[LOCKSUIT]

***I explained the cortex 100%! May I go through it thoroughly with you's?

My instructions do-not say the chip or sensors etc that is for the "OMG ok I will start a corp." guy to start buying/arranging, I HAVE THE STUFF SOLVED, THEY JUST NEED TO BUILD IT.

[kei10]

And... what about you? Sitting and relaxing in your fantastic chair with your hands clasped behind your head while waiting for someone to make it? If you want it to be built, you should rather be providing the steps required to build it. Don't expect anyone to have time decoding your super long transcript to work out the details. All you've been doing is bragging about your "100% guarantee will work" words.

To begin with, trim down your transcript into keywords, or extreme summaries in a categorized list. Order then into steps that actually makes sense... Make sure every possible details are these, especially how these parts are
connected. Provide the details of the materials. Provide everything that is needed. *Pant* .... *Pant* ... *Pant* ... After all, you said it yourself, 100% should work, so you would naturally have your information arsenal with you -- the only problem is that if you are actually 100% know that it's 100% works, and show everything to us with clearest possible way, that makes sense to even a kid.

This is the template of the details that you could provide.

• How many components we are seeing here?
• Why does it work?
• How does it work like that?
• What are the Steps to produce your 100% guarantee works theory?
• How are the systems connected?
• Why does the systems connected like that?
• And so on...

For example.

Part WWWXYZ - Ultimate Exploding Cortex

• BUT WAIT... What does the Ultimate Exploding Cortex do? What is it? OOOOHHHHHH... Such intrigue name, much curiosity, much wow... Someone, please... Answer me, what does it do exactly? TELL ME! NOOOOOOOOWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 Pretty, please? *Sniff*
• It does this, it does that, and it does those.
• Oh, and that, too. Oh, wait, this too! Oh no no no, these too, and those!
• This, this, this -- and this.
  
  • First, do this.
  • Oh, do that.
  • Then, do those...

Part ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOP - Bomb-- I mean, Brain Defusion -- wait, what?

• THIS!
• Oh, no, THAT!
  
  • But but but... What about this? Let's do this.
  • Hell to your idea, we do that instead!
• NO! THOSE!
  
  • No no no no no, first we do this.
  • Fine, we will do just this.
  • Stop you criminal scum, first we do that.
    
    • But why...?
    • Because you've violated the law, now...
  • Pay your fine, or an arrow to the knee, do these.
    
    • NO!

Part 9000 - Connecting the parts like mad

• "You died"

Just kidding.

[LOCKSUIT]

What children in infancy you's all are.

They would want to once seen the proof, not "UH, pay me?"

What you failed to realize is all of the connections, order of steps in order, and in "makes sense" is completely there.

PRIMARY CORTEX
Receives visual input, and is only a preparation ground for starting the search, by using the assorted images to easily send the input to the either dark or light assortement of images, and same for images with similar color in areas of the image.

ASSOCIATION CORTEX
Is the next area where the search continues right to the match. Then it also saves here at the outer layer of the brain, near similar-images (assorted).

HIGHER ORDER ASSOCIATION CORTEX
As explained in the Transcript only the strongest senses then tether to the sequential memory bar, its sequence is guess/tweak all motor actions, and then save above them the sensed senses that were attentive(explained), which makes a set in the memory bar, then it restarts this process. This ranks just-tried-actions. And all senses in the top row and all actions in the bottom row are linked. The actions are tethered to their ASSOCIATION CORTEX, which then works the opposite way, and is all much much explained. The KNN assortment in better than Google, while the memory bar is a hierarchical search method being also better than Google ex. arm>problems>cuts>fix>how.

CEREBELUM
I explain this too, and obviously the VTA is the rewards. So there's the whole brain's cycle!

[Korrelan]

@Art

The next few years are going to be very interesting 

@Kei10

Ever get the feeling your wasting your time lol.  I’ve been through this conversation with BF33 on a couple of separate occasions and it always ends in the same way.  I thought I’d have one more go and give him the benefit of the doubt, but I’m more convinced than ever now that he is trolling.

@BF33

What children in infancy you's all are.

The phrase ‘Cannot understand nothing technical’ describes you in a couple of ways.

I tell you what… I will personally drop all my projects and build your system for FREE…

‘IF’ you can do one very simple task that anyone can accomplish…

Post a picture of a single rectangle… that’s it.

BUT… it must be exactly the correct size, colour and rotation... or no deal.

 

[kei10]

@korrelan

... OH... ... ... I didn't know that. O______________________________________o
Oh, my... Actually I had bit of fun writing, nevertheless.
At least, I even made him write down a summary -- and calling us infancy.

I noticed that you, korrelan, hinted that BeautifulFlowers33 does not know how to program. He's way too simple minded in this. As we, programmers, understand that simple words "does not easily" translate into something that programmers can work on it. Just like simple words can't tell an engineer to build a spaceship without the required blueprints and documents, no measurements, nothing, that's blatant crazy. Well, simple words can be okay, but it would take ages to even construct anything from it if it is very complicated.

Especially when we're talking about creating AI here. Unless it's a program to tell you to add two values together like "1 + 1 = 2". Buuut that's not the case for now~

BeautifulFlowers33, if you are keeping on about your 100% works theory, then you should know how to create this little "blueprint" for us, no?

Let's us construct a situation.

Bomb Defusion

Given that a bomb, in front of you, yes, a very complicated looking bomb, no biggie -- it has a lot of wires, though. But the question is... Can you defuse it? But but but... How? I didn't receive any instructions! How am I suppose to defuse it? I don't know what those parts are! Also, you're locked in a tight room, with no one that you could contact with, nay, nada.

Bomber over a radio: "Alright, fair enough. I am going to tell you all of those parts, and what they do... First, the LED display blah blah, the input button blah blah, blah blah, and all that. Now, defuse the bomb with the information you've received over the radio."

The information that given by the bomber over a radio, is exactly like you just gave us in summary. He told nothing more about the rest of the wires, the internal system. The software, nothing more. If you did one step wrong, the bomb will detonate in your face. How's that?

This situation is like we're here now. The bomb parts and its system is connected in such a way that it's completely blind to anyone without knowledge and experience. Like your brain theory, there maybe parts -- but you're missing something more important -- How the parts works internally in Data form, and how the Wires that are connected, works exactly you dictated.

Because you see, defusing a bomb, is like creating an AI. All the steps wrong, and you'll never get your AI work the way you want. One wrong step to cut to the wire of the bomb, or wrong input of the password, or attempt to take apart anything else -- Your neighbor will enjoy a sudden beautiful firework, at least. 

Edit: Heh, looking back at my other thread, I am ashamed to have preached about my algorithm and all that like this. Well, at least I did it to shove some fuel up my butt crack so I could work on it again, and gotten some feedback from others' mind.

Wewewewew~~

[LOCKSUIT]

Here's 2 programming images.

Here's a image of programming I did for my advanced AI:
***Go to 8:25 to see the programming.


And here's a image of my Cleaner Version I'm working on too:
***Upsize it.
http://s1318.photobucket.com/user/coolgodboss/media/cleaner%20programming_zpssewcuftc.png.html

The only internal connections/data missing is the ones in your brain.

[Art]

Legos, and that awful mix of music, if one could call it that, is hardly proof of or representative of any scientific approach with regard to an A.I. or a real android or robot. Images and videos of other robots thrown into your "presentation" only serve to take away from any credible belief in that which you claim you have developed.

I'm not passing judgement on what you believe is sound research, just making some personal observations.

Continued success in whatever you call what you're doing with your lego robot building and that music.

[LOCKSUIT]

It's not Legos idiot. The music is my taste. What's shown is proof, and representative at that, of the most advanced AI nobody currently has. And their AI Robots are put to shame and highlight mine like cake. Are you able to explain each step my AI does?

If you don't got nothing nice to say, they don't talk.

Otherwise it seems your just plain jealous.

Btw I went through the whole neocortex on the bottom of the last page, if it skipped your neocortex.

[kei10]

Um, but the video and the presentation clearly shows that the robot is made of LEGO parts, and a software called "LEGO MINDSTORMS Education EV3 Student Edition" from the screenshot of your desktop, now you're denying that? What are you trying to prove, then? XD

What's shown is proof, and representative at that, of the most advanced AI nobody currently has.

Most advanced...? HAAAAAAAHHH HAAAAAAH HAAHHHHH HAAHHHHHHH *GASP* *WHEEZE* *Dies of laughter*
Oooh boy, oh boy, ahem... .. *Wipes tears*.. ... .. Most advanced, you say? A baby robot crawling about making obnoxious noises -- with a tad of avoiding walls in slow motion and such?

Really?

You haven't seen the real things, pal, the real things, the awesome robots and AIs that I admire from the real creators around the world -- and here, too, I browsed the forums and I find many creators here create awesome projects!

Very outdated, you are, I must say, I'm very, very sorry -- just like the horrendous ear-exploding music you placed into your video. So, you should go and look up some youtube videos of robots and those truly "most" advanced AIs, before my lungs explode from any more words you wish to utter. 

Just kidding.

Edit: Not trying to be a terrible person, but, you might need to improve your robot to something that is enough to convince us -- when it will finally become a proof, rather than that.

[LOCKSUIT]

Ok buddy, yes no lie I mean it it is the most advanced AI on Earth as of yet, so, tell me what ONE AI you seen does that is so much more advanced. SCRIPTED OPTIONS ARE NOT ACCEPTABLE, PRE-INSTALLED TURN ACTIONS ARE NOT ACCEPTABLE, AND WALK ACTIONS IS DEMONSTRATED WITH MINE AS USING IT'S "FOOT" TO PROPEL ITSELF FORWARD WHILE A SEQUENCE OF MOVES IS UNDERSTOOD I DO. I've seen the fields bots crawl, even with 4 legs AS said understood how, but mine turns, mimics, laughs, etc.

Just try to find 1.
Plus are you able to explain how my crawl and turn AI works? I understand it WAY more than you. All you know is re-inforcement for Data-Sheet #s, I'm in the "human-senses" stage . And no it won't instantly be Einstein in a iPhone. Practice+Human Body, I have a database and know why more than anyone.

[kei10]

Alright, I am now convinced that you're a troll. Sigh...
I'm sorry for not believing you, korrelan.