[LOCKSUIT]

Just remember:
You can know the programming.
You can know the cycle.
You right now mr machine can't predict some things (AI 0% chance).
You can know every particle's placement.
You can even simulate it at lightspeed and skip every other so it is twice as faster for real world prediction.
But if you want to know us here right now, then your'll need to have every particle including us AI machines learnin n doin actions listed down into the computer to simulate.

That pretty much sums it up.

A programmed action is the same just a variant of AI learning and using unknown actions, it is all a reaction.  Wanting to call one controlled and one changing is a particlistic reaction in your brain. Including if it leg gets stuck in the mud when about to move. Including if a bunch of particles (you) has the info of " " or not.

[Freddy]

Well good luck with that Locksuit.

When you can tell me and prove it possible that "You can know every particle's placement" and "simulate it at light speed" then I might start listening.

You'll need to tweak it of course, like how you have changed your mind over using a faster than light speed simulation.

[LOCKSUIT]

I think now is the perfect time to bring up some points.

So as we discussed, you know we are machines.

Do you realize that while we do have a mom and a dad, we don't actually "have" a mom or a dad? They are not, you know, soul related. Hell, we're particles. I don't call my parents "mom" or "dad".

[Korrelan]

So as we discussed, you know we are machines.

Yup we are complex biochemical machines which exhibit consciousness and self awareness amongst many other ‘human’ traits.

Do you realize that while we do have a mom and a dad, we don't actually "have" a mom or a dad?

This is just a contradiction.

They are not, you know, soul related.

There is no such thing as a soul.

Hell, we're particles.

No sh*t Sherlock.

I don't call my parents "mom" or "dad".

Neither do I, I call them Ma and Pa.

[kei10]

They are not, you know, soul related.

There is no such thing as a soul.

Aha! This one I have to disagree. It's not "no such a thing", it is "unknown".
Due to the Antropic Principle, we can't see things that we weren't able to see.
But then these unknown entities "may" not effect us whatsoever.

I don't call my parents "mom" or "dad".

Neither do I, I call then Ma and Pa.

[Korrelan]

Aha! This one I have to disagree. It's not "no such a thing", it is "unknown".
Due to the Antropic Principle, we can't see things that we weren't able to see.

Ah I see your reasoning.  So being as ‘the soul’ was bought up on a thread regarding whether ‘robots are predictable’ we need not exclude three legged pink sparkly invisible unicorns in the ‘logic’ of conversation/ answering the question.  And just the fact that something can’t be disproved makes it a viable inclusion? Okie dokie then…

And how exactly does including any and every unknown/ unprovable ‘thing’ or concept as an argument help get us towards an answer/ solution? Surely if we just stick to what general consensus agrees is correct we stand a better chance?

I don't call my parents "mom" or "dad".

After what lock had stated previously about how he regards everything as ‘particles’, this last comment implies he thinks little of his parents and their relationship to him. He is saying he regards them as mere ‘particles’ and references them accordingly. This seems callous too me.

I love my parents and appreciate the time and effort they have invested in me. I affectionately call them Ma and Pa hopefully implying my affection.

 

[LOCKSUIT]

My parents are no different then the people next door. We all should be caring for each other.

Kei, souls unseen, but screw that we know we are robots. After all all of us on the forum's opinions are all not proven even if kei says he loves coffee before bed - yes everything you say/do. Get it? No we know souls don't exist. Don't reply back and be all like "but wee doooon't knooooooooow" when your own main job is machines and you believe it hard.

So as we discussed, you know we are machines.

Yup we are complex biochemical machines which exhibit consciousness and self awareness amongst many other ‘human’ traits.

Do you realize that while we do have a mom and a dad, we don't actually "have" a mom or a dad?

This is just a contradiction.

They are not, you know, soul related.

There is no such thing as a soul.

Hell, we're particles.

No sh*t Sherlock.

I don't call my parents "mom" or "dad".

Neither do I, I call them Ma and Pa.

You did this purposely didn't you............................................................

I meant call em mom/dad for useful purposes such as DNA extraction, but actually ya, don't call them mom/dad, they are just a particlistic robot that built you.

[kei10]

And how exactly does including any and every unknown/ unprovable ‘thing’ or concept as an argument help get us towards an answer/ solution? Surely if we just stick to what general consensus agrees is correct we stand a better chance?

The funny thing is, we don't even know if it's even unprovable, or provable. It's unknown. Just like all the things we see today, like the quantum mechanics. All of those research are guessing based on observed experiments, but we don't actually see its true form -- well, not yet.

We can't disapprove something just because it's a theory. It remains a theory, or unknown.

That's the beauty of knowledge and curiosity. That's what makes us seek them -- although many morons actually go beyond the humane scope to seek such knowledge and cause destruction... Such as religions. Now, now, it's an example.

After what lock had stated previously about how he regards everything as ‘particles’, this last comment implies he thinks little of his parents and their relationship to him. He is saying he regards them as mere ‘particles’ and references them accordingly. This seems callous too me.

I love my parents and appreciate the time and effort they have invested in me. I affectionately call them Ma and Pa hopefully implying my affection.

The mindset of Locksuit is as terrifying as it is...

[LOCKSUIT]

I live with my mom. She is nice. Humans have to raise children. I am attracted to literally any girl but her. I would never want to see her. (unless I change my rewards). I believe jobs are jobs and deserved money is deserved money and thanks are not required and are inefficient to do. I've seen men that look more cool to hang around than what my dad looks like.

[LOCKSUIT]

Btw I laughed so hard at my last last reply! And the other funny ones recently!

[Freddy]

It's good to keep a sense of humour