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Robotics => General Robotics Talk => Topic started by: frankinstien on July 16, 2020, 08:12:49 pm
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Improving upon a process or extending what already exists is one of the means economies of scale can come about. Below is a video of how TPE dolls are made:
TPE Dolls (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-47vLVVfjM)
Notice the simplicity of the skeleton. Now look at this very simple idea of a snake arm:
Snake Arm (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUEp-AfvvzE)
Apply the snake arm approach but still use the TPE doll skeleton for support and you can see where the ability to inexpensively articulate the doll with motors that pull and tug on the lines of the snake arm can move the skeleton appendage. Effectively the concept is similar to a puppet only motors can control the lines within the torso of the doll. With line guides to route the lines, it could be a very elegant solution and, again, capitalize on existing processes to keep costs down. Of course, silicone can be used but the cost of silicone is outrageous.
Here is a more sophisticated version of a snake arm:
Sophisticated Snake Arm (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaG0p2PWuRI)
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Here's a better image of a doll's skeleton:
(https://www.6yedollglobal.com/uploads/9/8/5/0/98500794/new-skeleton_orig.jpg)
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Function over form... hehe.
:)
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Exactly what I was thinking.
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In this context, “function and form†play on the “hotness vs beauty†signaling, which is used to attract the short-term, vs the long-term male reproductive strategies. The display of hotness is an easy one to cash in on, because it triggers the part of you which says, “Pass on your jeans and run!†like cell phones, where people keep wanting to get the newest versions, and discard the old ones. But I’ll bet most people are hoping, or will end up hoping, that a sex bot would be able to fulfill their long-term investment reproductive strategy. So, despite common wisdom, and because there appears to be a greater demand, it might be more worthwhile and profitable if companies took some risks and focused on the long-term companion angle. That would be heartening to see, and might even help to secure the way towards favorable human/AI relations in the future.
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That would be heartening to see, and might even help to secure the way towards favorable human/AI relations in the future.
Bots are for life! Just like dogs find their forever home. :)
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The display of hotness is an easy one to cash in on, because it triggers the part of you which says, “Pass on your jeans and run!†like cell phones, where people keep wanting to get the newest versions, and discard the old ones.
It's much more than that, it is the ability of the bot to change and understand the individual and be nonjudgmental, as well as having capabilities that just make traditional relationships obsolete! It's like the horse and buggy vs the car, horse and buggies are fun for nostalgic reasons, but for everyday transportation of anything the car out-competes without a doubt, to the point that logistically there is no choice. So too will be bot companions, the benefits are just overwhelming...
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You're painting a very sad picture of yourself. Please try not to sound too delusional. This forum has had more than its fair share of crazies over the years and it's not a prize that you want to win.
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@frankinstien
I'm not convinced things will play out as you predict, but it's gonna be interesting to find out. O0
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You're painting a very sad picture of yourself. Please try not to sound too delusional. This forum has had more than its fair share of crazies over the years and it's not a prize that you want to win.
To win the contempt of the devil is an honor...
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I thought this to be appropriate for this thread:
Fembots (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6HI37GLPu8)
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@frankinstien
I'm not convinced things will play out as you predict, but it's gonna be interesting to find out. O0
I love this episode of Star Trek the original series, where Mud has all these beautiful female bots and in the end Kirk programs hundreds of bots to look like Mud's wife as punishment for his crimes. At about 48 seconds into the video Mud says: "Kirk you can't do this to me,...she's human!" with a disgusted look.
Star Trek (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag1EbxYKh_4)
And there's this movie you might remember:
Demolition Man (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_q-DhQwZog)
Love that response: "Ew Disgusting." One day the actual thought of sexually interacting with our biological selves will be unthinkable!
In the end re-directing human sexual activity to robots will lessen the social pressure of sexual conquests, unwanted pregnancies and provide that alternative that is the most humane means of lowering the population to more sustainable levels.
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Ya, I totally agree, humans seem to be moving away and hiding skin etc, apes rarely do that and dogs don't. On the flip side, one day all danger can be dissipated and you'd live even if punctured multiple times, though the planet may no longer have humans at that point I'm afraid, rather nanobots.
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I highly recommend this movie, it brings a mature drama of A.I., social norms and taboos very eloquently....
Life Like (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiwFtzuSnkE)
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The display of hotness is an easy one to cash in on, because it triggers the part of you which says, “Pass on your jeans and run!†like cell phones, where people keep wanting to get the newest versions, and discard the old ones.
And here's where hotness evolved from. (https://fineartamerica.com/featured/female-australopithecus-africanus-mauricio-anton.html?product=poster)
I kinda get the point of pass your jeans and run, but I think she's quite capable of keeping up... ^-^
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Here's a clip from the podcast that introduced me to the idea:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvQrFBOyDs0
This evolution thing means business. I'm often caught somewhere between amazed and appalled, when I hear about all the tools and methods that this universe has evolved. What is it's deal? What is it all about?
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The issues brought up in that video are little suspicious. For one, humanity is an ape, and as such has always lived in social groups, large groups or troops that could reach over a hundred. So the idea that women evolved for commitment and therefore avoid a sexual opportunity because human babies require so many resources to raise doesn't make sense. Why? Because early hominids existed in troops, where, those societies would collaborate to raise offspring. The video talks about human sexuality as if hominids were operating as isolated pairs, Adam and Eve, where women are fearful of engaging in sex because they could get pregnant and be left alone to raise the child. So that model is wrong and the fact that a woman is so sexually adept biologically since she can orgasm moments after just having one, where men can't. Once a man orgasms he's out of the game for at least 15 to 20 minutes. Since women can continue experiencing pleasure in engaging in sexual activity after a male is done suggests that women engaged more frequently with multiple partners than men! That is counter-intuitive to our society, where such a women would be considered a whore. But from a evolutionary perspective it makes sense that with a shared responsibility of an entire troop to raise offspring ensuring a female gets pregnant insures or motivates a troop to grow in size.
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It should be also added that sex as a social mechanism to prompt favor for resources would be another reason for females to engage with multiple partners. The female that likes to play gets males to share their meat from the hunt. Our society demonizes this practice and calls it prostitution, but this behavior and the reasons for it, to get males to share resources, is found in other apes, primates, and even other animals such as penguins!
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When it comes to reasoning like this, I turn to creationism because even nonsense makes more sense than this trollop.
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Dammit! Now I'm back to square one. Its becoming a tall square with a lot of hypotheses stacked on it, apparently canceling eachother out, hopefully that's turning it into a good vantage point. Good points, @frankinstien, though I wouldn't go as far as @silent one.
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When it comes to reasoning like this, I turn to creationism because even nonsense makes more sense than this trollop.
Ah...someone from the politically correct camp... ::)
One of the first tests I give any theory is; does it suffer from social anthropomorphization, meaning it ignores features, understandings, and documented observations that build its assertions and relies on urban myths, or enforces political and religious agendas.
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I swear frankinstien is my clone now, now he agrees breeding with multiple nearby mates = bigger army.
I still think we need more humans on Earth but if we are slowing down don't say it was wrong, it was the thing. You can still cuddle though, no pregnancy involved.
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Here's an interesting article from Forbes:
Robot (https://www.forbes.com/sites/andreamorris/2020/07/28/talk-to-your-sex-robot-about-covid-19/#1b33deb34cf7)