[Freddy]

Been a while since I have done any rendering but the past couple of days between course work and things I have been trying out the new kit.  I'm finding it's quite good really, especially for free.  I like messing around with studio type shots.

Here's a quick one I did after playing around with various lighting sets.  I like the way it came out.

I'm going to get some full environments at some point - there's some great things you can get - like trees, plants and all kinds of scenery.

The free version of Daz Studio is alas not 64bit, but the paid for Advanced 3D Studio can do 64 bit.  The free Studio will actually use all your cores, so with my new quad core CPU render times have at least halved for me.  This picture below I have reduced 50% in size and took about 12 seconds to render, with shadows too.

I think they have improved the rendering engine as the images I am getting are a lot better than I remember.  I have Poser 6 too and I reckon this simple one here is better than what it could produce.

[Data]

Looks pretty good, I cant see any jaggys so it seems to have some kind of AA (anti-aliasing) in the render engine.

Even better that it uses all 4 cores, its good to see developers building multi core support into their software.

[Art]

Jaggies are visible on her upper forearm and hand.

DAZ3 still relies on the Poser characters for decent creation.

The Poser characters look really nice when one applies human
texturing to them and does a large render close up.

Check out the galleries on www.3Dcommune.com or www.renderosity.com

[Maviarab]

Not bad freddy

[Freddy]

Thanks folks.  As for jaggies also remember that I reduced this image 50% and that jpeg may have introduced some degradation.

You have good eyes Art, I never noticed the jaggies, they are quite small.  This was just a five minute job and I didn't play around with all the render settings - there may well be AA available or other kinds of edge blurring but I haven't got that far yet.

This model is based on V3, but is a major improvement on the original imho.  But considering that model is getting to be old now it's not that bad a result me thinks.  I do have V4.2, which is free these days from Daz.so I will see how she works out.

Art, I am not sure what you mean about relying on Poser characters - didn't DAZ make V3, V4 et al themselves anyway ?  They are aimed at both applications I thought...

[Maviarab]

Not Daz, but will add them here (poser man here lol)....finally got around to getting 8, so was playing around with it for some game fan artwork for a diff forum (Bioware forum for Mass Effect 2)...what you think?

Edit: cant figure out at moment how to reduce size image so its clickable without making a thumb so will just add the links

Edit again:, be warned, they very big.

http://digitalgirl.co.uk/pics/mypics/MirandaRedDress.png

http://digitalgirl.co.uk/pics/mypics/MirandaWhiteDress.png

[Freddy]

Hehe 'Poser man' sounds kinda funny  Stop looking in the mirror !

Nice pictures there, particularly like the backdrops too.

Finally nice to see the digital girl domain again, brings back memories

As for Poser, I think it is nice, but there's only so much time to spend on things like this so I will probably stick to Daz products.  I may buy their Studio|Advanced next week, it's on sale at the moment.  And I will probably be joining the Platinum Club when I do so I get it cheaper - then I'll be waiting for Carrara 7 Pro to be on sale.

Talking of Carara, they have Pro 8 out in Beta at the moment, available to customers only I think, not sure about that.  Yet another program I have to try !

Keep on rendering...

Edit : By the way Art, http://www.3dcommune.com/ has shut down.... but yes I visit Renderosity quite frequently - I even have some models there offered for free of mushrooms of all things !

[Maviarab]

Bah....the secret is out lmao

yes good folks of dreams, I have re sorted my domain and Digital Girl is back in business at the old url , though all that is there at the moment is a splash screen as Im still working on a brand new flash site for her

[claude2]

Daz, has advantage to be fluid, in gestures, skins, is more improved. I already have, tested, Daz. It is one to pose, good quality.

[Freddy]

Here's a new one I just did, this time using some of the more advanced features...well they are advanced to me as I only just got told about them 

[Data]

Looks impressive,  nice lighting and textures, almost looks real but seems to have a kind of cartoon appearance too, I like it 

[Art]

Freddy...

I wasn't aware of 3Dcommune folding like a cheap ironing board!! There were a LOT of very talented artists and 3D craftsmen as well as some really good friends.

I kind of got away from the 3D stuff (Max, Bryce, Poser) after many years of pursuit and hadn't bee back in quite a long time.

I can't imagine being a businessman and letting things go into arrears as "quickly" or as badly as he claims. This was a snowball rolling down a long slope...slowly gathering more and more as it went along it's merry way.

Real shame...I can't believe they didn't try membership "donations" or something but as is often true there really are such things as "starving artists!"

I believe that Michael and Victoria were first developed for Poser then after a while the base model of each was offered or perhaps given away. It did not have the morph targets...those "add-on" that would allow one to perform all sorts of modifications to / for the characters (muscles, abs, chest, biceps, calves, various builds, old, adult, teen / preteen, athletic, superhero, etc.). The Victoria model was one of the finest produced and boasted an excessive amount of polygons compared to the standard Poser figures. Rendering those characters with the human textures assigned and with a slow professional render, produced an almost photo-realistic image.

Daz Studio was made free and it's early attempts were poor at best! People shied away from it for quite some time until word got out that it had been refined to the point of producing pretty nice renders.

I didn't stay with it for too long as my love was in creating 3D images. I still have Poser and Bryce3D and TrueSpace and Rhino3D (which I really love), but rarely have time to play with them.

Interests migrated back to AI, Robotics / androids and the future of humanity in a sci-fy kind of way.  Discovered the joy of reading once again...some really great futuristic and robotic books out there! READ!!

Waiting on Marius's temporarily halted DG story to one day continue!!

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[Freddy]

@Datahopa, yes I like this one too, I know what you mean about the real/not real thing..

Art,

I am sure I must have visited 3Dcommune at some point but can't recall - it is as you say a shame.  Oh well, at least the internet has some kind of safety net built in - meaning that all those artists will probably migrate to one of the other sites... it's just a click or two away...

Thanks for the background on the Victoria models - most interesting.  I only got back into this in the past week or two, I was keen to see how the new quad core dealt with the renders - so far, so good.   As for all the different interests; I guess that there are only so many hours in the day... and this kind of thing can be time consuming.  For me it is a welcome break from the course I am on... only three months to go on that

Last I heard Marius was rewriting chunks of it... fingers crossed...

[claude2]

Uhm!!! It is sexy! A girl just like that for weekend, i says not no!! ARFF 

[Freddy]

  yes she is cute...here she is again kitted out in some new gear...