[GamerThom]

Sounds more like it's just being critical.  :knuppel2 But I refuse to be daunted by someone
who comes off sounding like they know absolutely nothing about graphics in general, let alone
what it is to try doing graphics and Poser renders with nothing to work the controls but a finger
on the mouse button and voice control. I've been doing graphic arts & illustrations for over 20 yrs. but only recently have I started trying to do it as computer graphics. I took it up as a sort
of therapy after I became a quadrapalegic to let me express myself and keep my mind active.



*Note:  As a bit of general info regarding Poser 5; I have found that some of the content
           designed and released for Poser 6 will work in P5 but takes longer to render and the
           render settings are a little trickier. But they only render properly using the FireFly          engine.  :smiley

[Freddy]

I used Daz not Poser, but I am told it is near enough the same thing...but yep I found some problems like this too, some models for Poser would work but others wouldn't and it sometimes does weird things with attachments like hair.

Say you have some hair and you fit it to your model, some hair models will move the hair so it is still in the right place, others will leave it hanging off to the side or half way down the head.  I didn't get as far as working out why though.

Thanks for the info, I was hoping to get back to some modelling last week or two, but other things have kept me busy.


And...it's just not your week is it Jman  :wink

[Art]

Poser never was very good at doing render of anything other than it's own characters.
Most users, years ago, used to render Poser creations in Bryce. Bryce could allow for
proper importation of 3D models (.obj, .3DS, etc.) without ending up with "rounded"
corners on everything and without showing the reversed normals (a 3D model term to
describe that all faces of an object are oriented in the same direction from outside in
or from inside out.)

There was one particular friend from a 3D forum years past who did do remarkable images
and animations using Poser alone so while I'll simply state that Poser may not be the best
rendering engine, I've seen what a determined individual can do with it.

[GamerThom]

Sheesh Art,  you sure get around. (on the forums that is)  :grin

Hi Freddy,  I take it that mine are not the only toes which Jman has stepped on this past week
or that this is not the only topic where in responding to it, he has placed his foot in his mouth.   :rofl

I know Art has been frequenting VHumans forum, so he already knows about our freindly little
rendering competition. So I'll put this here for you & Marius. I know that you have membership
at VHumans, I'm not sure about Marius. We have started a virtual  :wink multitude of threads
in the restricted area over there concerning renders done in Poser and other Graphics apps. In
fact it's turned into an informal competition of sorts. If you are interested, it's open to all VH
members. If not to post a render or two, then stop in and have a look & leave a comment. All
serious input is welcome.  :smiley

[Freddy]

Hehe, nope, oh well, can't say I haven't done it.

Thanks for letting us know, I'll take a wander
 

[Art]

GT,

I've been a member there since Dec 05. Quite a good bunch of people there. The discussions certainly run the gambit and cover just about everything...ocassionally touching on AI! LOL!!

I used to be more into 3D years ago than I am now. I was one of the earliest members of 3DCommune, Renderosity and several other such forums. Much of my work was with Rhino and Max though I have dabbled a bit with Lightwave, TrueSpace, Bryce, Poser and others. It got to the point that as I would drive to work and see a building or structure, I'd began to analyze it thinking how I'd model it and what type of texture would map to it, etc. I've made a lot of props in the past and still have quite a few of them left. If you're looking for anything in particular let me know and I'll see about getting it to you (no charge)!

Hope I'm not getting on your NURBS (3D inside joke). :rofl

[GamerThom]

 :rofl NURBS!  Good one Art, yes I know what nurbs are.
We had a little fun with LaackeJim on that one a while back.
It's the mesh modeling/morphing points which are still used in
software like CosmicBlobs.

As for structural elements. I haven't gotten into modeling yet,
can't afford the software. I have formal training as a structural
designer and drafter, even made a living at it for a couple of years.

As to your offer of some buildings and structural elements for Poser,
I'll take whatever I can get. Just have to figure out how to get them
from you.

__________________________________________________________

ANNOUNCEMENT;   The Poser/DAZ desktop artwork area of my web-site
is now open. I have posted desktop backgrounds, cartoons and other
miscellaneous goodies there for download. It's just a small selection to
start with, but I will be expanding it as I did with the HAL/AI Galleries.
All backgrounds are sized 1024x768    Just go to the url below and look
to the bottom right hand corner of the page for the entrance.

http://www.geocities.com/gamerthom/Character_Creations_Index.html

[Maviarab]

ok...time to show you all how its done hehe...nothing to do with AI though in the near future I wil posting our "digital girl" here maybe...if your all good and deserve it hehe.

2ndleeeeyyyyyy....as for poser 5 (and 6) ALWAYS use the poser 4 renderer (yes its still in 6) its far superior to firfly if you cant get your grubby hands on bryce or even better carrera

Enjoy  :afro

pssst Art, I'd be very interested in any buildings/columns etc you may have hehe....let me know...no rush...thx  :coolsmiley

[Maviarab]

Ok, I love this thread but we are really getting away from what this board was supposed to be about.

This board is to discuss the Graphics program Poser and its possible uses as an AI interface/avatar with its character creation.

Also due to restrictions on webspace and the fact that some members may be offended by certain pictures,we have decided that any poser creations should be linked to from outside this forum (ie no images) unless the image is of a character suitable for AI avatar creation somehoe using the poser program.

we are trying not to be judgmental, but as we have no idea of telling of what age or beliefs the vast majority of users are of have then we went for this compromise

We hope that you will understand our position on this. Any future submitted pics after todays date that do not fall into character Avatar catagory will be deleted by the admin.

Any problems then feel free to pm either myself or Freddy.

Any current pictures upto this date wil be deleted on the 23rd July 2006

[Freddy]

Yeah I think a general audience is the thing to keep in mind, nice pictures though  :evil

[ALADYBLOND]

ok i want to make sure i understand, you do not want any more pictures uploaded on dg unless they are avatars that we use in our posts? and any pictures we have on here now are going to be taken off?

[Freddy]

That is not the case.

We became aware that some images may not be suitable here - but we have no way of knowing that - so we put up a poll to find out.

[GamerThom]

Sorry to have been the cause of such a brauhaha.  :wink

~alady,   I beleive the problem stems from my imagery having diverged from
the original intent of my posted topic and the part of the graphics area in
which I posted it, that and some of the content of my posted images. I have
already rectified part of this by removing the images which I posted on pages
2 and 3, and in future will not upload the images here but place only links for
them as I had been doing with my more recent character heads and skins.  :smiley

[ALADYBLOND]

gamer
 sigmund freud would have loved to   analyse you. you are man ahead of your time. you also like to draw chickies in the near buff :grin :zdg_chicken...
but i am no :angel angel some of angelina's outfits have been pretty skimpy.~~alady

[GamerThom]

 :evil What can I say, we all have our little quirks and eccentricities.  :azn  :2funny

As to dear old Sigmund,  I think he did in my last lifetime.   :wink  :rofl