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Member's Experiments & Projects => AI Programming => Topic started by: unreality on November 26, 2017, 07:00:57 pm
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value = rarity * usefulness + self-awareness * harmony
An intelligent one legged, one armed psychopath whose job is to hand out food to the poor.
Joy, peace, happy, love, tranquillity = +Harmony
Who loves killing people and feels no remorse for the people he murders?
Pain, sadness, rage, hate, anger = -Harmony
Like someone who lost a child to the psychopath.
Still working on the value system.
Erm… yeah! Might need some work.
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Interesting avenue of thought though.
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Ok! How did my examples NOT fit the descriptions?
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BTW. I really don't appreciate being inferred to as a psychopath. You posted... I replied.
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Ok! Once again... How did my examples NOT fit the descriptions?
I was merely trying to prove a point.
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I certainly learned something from our brief interaction... did you learn anything about the English language and the scope of descriptors?
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I did say… ‘Interesting avenue of thought though.’
At which point we were meant to discuss your post. I wasn't ‘dissing’ your idea/ post, merely pointing out a problem.
The problem with ‘rules/ formulas’ like this are the scope of the descriptors. The English language has so many words because many are trying to convey a cross-over or relate a vague relationship between two many items/ concepts. You can’t really define/ describe a high level concept like this in so few words.
This is just my opinion and is in no way a personal attack against you, your idea, or your intelligence.
Now you reply… in a calm polite manner… peace dude.
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You should have made that post from the start rather than the obvious attack.
Obvious attack… Seriously? Ok! I apologise for offending your aura of intellectual supremacy master, please forgive me; and allow me to continue to bask in the light of your might… feel better?
Anyway…
So similar to neural network, but instead of simple neurons you propose concepts. The strength of the links between concept clusters donates their importance/ relationship/ relevance value to each other.
There must be some credence to this idea because not only does it follow the schema of common neural network architecture but also because so many other peeps have ideas along similar lines.
I feel there is definitely something useful in the schema… how would you define ‘relevance’ between the clusters?
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But ATM the common use of neural networks is to define a ‘relevance’ between disparate concepts.
I get the whole hierarchical links between relational concepts schema, but we still need a common easily defined (or not) schema for the ‘relevance’ of one concept to the other.
As for an ASI being organised, I personally feel that below the surface any AGI would have a multitude of contradicting/ opposing ‘thoughts’ or patterns that jostle for dominance, that combine/ cancel and eventually reach a state of equilibrium to produce an outcome.
Organization is cool… but I just don’t see how a schema could produce a relevant output from sensory information and thoughts gleaned from such an un-organised reality.
I suppose once the environment/ sensory streams have been filtered the steps leading to a ‘thought’ could get more organized.
Yeah… we still need a global definition of ‘relevance’, perhaps a multitude of sub-links that combine to create a ‘relevance’? Is it the same size? Same colour? Same location? does it rhyme?, etc. A filter that checks and combines the ‘relevance’ across many different fields and produces a simple output that can be utilized in comparison formulas?
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Chess engines disprove your above word salad. They develop tables that give relevance by doing analysis.
Yet they fail miserably at Go.
Shake your head again I dare you. You've obviously got a screw loose or you wouldn't be so paranoid.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AlphaGo
smh
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Can we see an example of your ASI?
Here is a link to my research so we can compare ideas.
http://aidreams.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=10804.0
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Here is my theory rough theory of AGI. sorry it is a tough read. Or wait for the better easier one in a few months.
AGI basic structure. Jeff Hawkins influenced:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/artificial-general-intelligence/UVUZ93Zep6Y
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And besides, can this forum even upload images??? Good grief please tell me it can.
You can proceed this way :
1. Choose a hosting image website (i am in IMGUR.COM). This is usually free.
2. Create an account
3. Download an image.
4. Make it private or not
5. Copy/paste the BBcode link related to this image.
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Here is my theory rough theory of AGI. sorry it is a tough read. Or wait for the better easier one in a few months.
AGI basic structure. Jeff Hawkins influenced:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/artificial-general-intelligence/UVUZ93Zep6Y
Nice! There are several fuzzy (undefined) high level descriptions, that would probably be hard to turn into real algorithms (for now), but the overall structure seems good.
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If I may ask a few obvious questions...
How do you display or show the operation of your ASI when it is running?
Do you simply type in a question and wait for an answer? Like a chatbot or Alexa?
Does it generate visual responses to programmed data?
Can it show the results from various input methods you assign it?
I don't think we're looking to see your source code per se, as that is rather personal, but rather how you quantify the output of your ASI?
Just some thoughts for you.
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