In aesthetics, the uncanny valley (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_valley) is a hypothesized relationship between the degree of an object's resemblance to a human being and the emotional response to such an object. The concept of the uncanny valley suggests that humanoid objects which appear almost, but not exactly, like real human beings elicit uncanny, or strangely familiar, feelings of eeriness and revulsion in observers.Valley denotes a dip in the human observer's affinity for the replica, a relation that otherwise increases with the replica's human likeness.
@ tessawaldock,
They make me feel good because their presence is a form of flattery toward their clone or creator.
To me, the word, Robot, has a mechanical, clunky feel to it whereas Humanoid, Android, Synth, etc., sound more like an intelligent, functioning, animatronic, bi-pedal being.
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Not unless they actually get to the point of being indistinguishable from humans and their interaction begins to interfere or not become productive with nor for humans.
Overall, it is difficult to comment on that which we have yet to experience. How we, as a people and as a society react, remains to be seen with regard to acceptance, trust, and relationships.
Hi and welcome Tessa
Whilst I appreciate the work/ animatronics, etc that goes into these ‘androids’ I’ve never quite seen the point.
Humans are so finely tuned to recognise subtle nuances/ emotional expressions in other humans faces during conversation that the slightest deviation/ servo flicker can be quite disconcerting lol. The more realistic an ‘androids’ face is, the worse the effect is, an eye movement is slightly off, the skin creases weirdly, the mouth takes the wrong shape to pronunciate a phoneme, etc. Even with harmonic drives they still tend to cross into the ‘uncanny valley’ as soon as they move.
I personally think that machines should just look like what they are; I’ve not yet seen a really good design for the face of an AI. For social AI’s we just need an aesthetically pleasing, inoffensive face that has adequate emotional expression to convey internal thoughts/ emotions. We need some talented artists to apply them selves lol, also a universal method of identification is required, equivalent to human facial features.
I believe this is a recent best attempt, when I watch this my attention is drawn to the imperfections, which instantly ruins the illusion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8Ox6H64yu8
The emotion expression on Leonardo seems much more believable because I have no reference to compare it to.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYSmp3bjP_0
I’m not saying that an AGI should have the face of teddy bear but you get my gist.
I feel the designers of these ‘puppets’ are just cashing in on the hype that’s surrounded AI over the past few years, I don’t blame them, we all need funding but as WriterOfMinds/ Ranch have pointed out, the resources could have been made better use of.
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@ tessawaldock,
They make me feel good because their presence is a form of flattery toward their clone or creator.
To me, the word, Robot, has a mechanical, clunky feel to it whereas Humanoid, Android, Synth, etc., sound more like an intelligent, functioning, animatronic, bi-pedal being.
Yes
No
Not unless they actually get to the point of being indistinguishable from humans and their interaction begins to interfere or not become productive with nor for humans.
Overall, it is difficult to comment on that which we have yet to experience. How we, as a people and as a society react, remains to be seen with regard to acceptance, trust, and relationships.
Thanks Art, I agree it is hard to predict how society will cope with android robots of this type. However, do you possibly think it would take a while for people to accept, but once in society eventually people will come to accept it, like with how some new technology is accepted?
did u actually make that or was it a salvage?
@ tessawaldock,
They make me feel good because their presence is a form of flattery toward their clone or creator.
To me, the word, Robot, has a mechanical, clunky feel to it whereas Humanoid, Android, Synth, etc., sound more like an intelligent, functioning, animatronic, bi-pedal being.
Yes
No
Not unless they actually get to the point of being indistinguishable from humans and their interaction begins to interfere or not become productive with nor for humans.
Overall, it is difficult to comment on that which we have yet to experience. How we, as a people and as a society react, remains to be seen with regard to acceptance, trust, and relationships.
Thanks Art, I agree it is hard to predict how society will cope with android robots of this type. However, do you possibly think it would take a while for people to accept, but once in society eventually people will come to accept it, like with how some new technology is accepted?
People through the ages have been reluctant to change. Electricity, Horseless carriage (automobile), Assembly lines, Powered flight, mechanized farm equipment, vinyl records to reel-to-reel to eight-track to cassette to CD, Beta to VHS to Digital, robot welders and painters in factories...etc.
If the "powers that be" decide which direction the people need to be "led", then that is the direction we, as a society, will follow. We, the people, have very little say in the outcome of things that happens in our lives. It's coming and it might take another 50 years but it will happen.
They will get refined perhaps to a state like those Synths in HUM∀NS, that had special colored eyes so that ordinary humans could distinguish them from real people. There have been many great movies and TV series that try to promote the idea of humanoids and how useful they are going to be. They are continuing to "sell us" the idea that this will be a welcomed change, for these "beings" will have a purpose once reserved to police officers...To serve and to protect.
In case one hasn't seen the series, they should do so. It is most illustrative and informative, in a societal way.
http://www.amc.com/shows/humans/video-extras/season-02/episode-00/humans-season-2-trailer (http://www.amc.com/shows/humans/video-extras/season-02/episode-00/humans-season-2-trailer)
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Do these type of robots scare you?
Bina scares me a little bit, but so does the real life Bina. I think she is one tough cookie. Categorically, anthropomorphic development is not frightening at all. As a worker in the conscious aspects of the field, I am eager for advances in the anthropomophic arena, but I think the core advances will come in the sensorium itself. Soon we will have anthropomorphic robots with sensorium vastly different than our own, this will be engaging to interact with as they will appear human, but unrestrained from the limitations of human perception apparatus.
TL/DR: Teenage boy fantasies will govern the field of robotics development as a whole. The 80's movie "Weird Science" was very accurate.
Ranch,
That was the underlying premise in the HUMANS series as well as the movie, AI where people rebelled against the mechs and part of the iRobot movie and so on and so on.
Eventually, the hot heads get cooled off one way or another because like it or not, the powers that be will get their way.
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Would they not be readily accepted if they remained as robots visibly showing metal bits, actuators, wires and batteries, etc.?
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