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Title: Why doesn't nature's cells consume all of Earth?
Post by: LOCKSUIT on June 16, 2018, 08:02:53 pm
Why doesn't nature's cells consume all of Earth?

1 cell takes in soil & water, it grows into 2 cells....4 8 16 32 64 128...

Why isn't all the soil in the center of Earth cells by now if there is so many different types of cells after so many years?

I get that a lot of the center of Earth gets pretty hot and void of water.....BUT....why isn't all of the soil just beneath our feet as deep as say 10 stories all "organism" organs and stuff by now?

Again,....1 cell duplicated......4.....8....16....

soil light water?

https://www.popsci.com/biodiversity-below-ground-is-critical-to-biodiversity-above-ground
Title: Re: Why doesn't nature's cells consume all of Earth?
Post by: LOCKSUIT on June 16, 2018, 08:26:24 pm
https://www.encyclopedia.com/earth-and-environment/ecology-and-environmentalism/environmental-studies/soils
Title: Re: Why doesn't nature's cells consume all of Earth?
Post by: LOCKSUIT on June 16, 2018, 08:33:30 pm
That link above explains a lot about the evolution of atmosphere, bedrock, soil, plants, really educational as ever lolz.
Title: Re: Why doesn't nature's cells consume all of Earth?
Post by: LOCKSUIT on June 16, 2018, 08:47:40 pm
SO, there's only a sheath of soil below then bedrock lolz, organism do live in it but not like huge organs n stuff idk why, and soil is water/air/minerals.

Sedament hmm.....I'll look up the Earth layers diagram.
Title: Re: Why doesn't nature's cells consume all of Earth?
Post by: LOCKSUIT on June 16, 2018, 08:55:45 pm
hm.....see the 2 images?

https://www.google.ca/search?q=massive+ocean+of+water+found+620+miles+below+earth%27s+surface&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi2gtzV-tjbAhUn54MKHVXlAMQQ_AUICSgA&biw=1280&bih=928&dpr=1
Title: Re: Why doesn't nature's cells consume all of Earth?
Post by: LOCKSUIT on June 16, 2018, 09:14:54 pm
here's some cool pictures

so much silicon https://www.redbubble.com/de/people/adorman/works/7672667-earth-cross-section?p=metal-print
https://www.dreamstime.com/stock-illustration-layers-earth-d-illustration-isolated-white-background-image76603981
https://www.dreamstime.com/stock-illustration-layers-earth-d-illustration-isolated-white-background-image76604136
http://clarkscience8.weebly.com/earth-layers.html

so much silicon in Earth https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon#Applications
Title: Re: Why doesn't nature's cells consume all of Earth?
Post by: ranch vermin on June 16, 2018, 09:25:10 pm
I dont see how we arent all just destroyed by evolutions viruses,  doesnt make sense to me.
Title: Re: Why doesn't nature's cells consume all of Earth?
Post by: LOCKSUIT on June 17, 2018, 03:19:10 am
Alright so....is it really possible then for 1 nanobot to turn all or most of Earth into a borg? There seems to be lots of silicon, crystalline rock, heat ROFL. You would think that's a gooood thing because it needs those I'd imagine. Of course it can re-arrange the particles too for any atom type.
Title: Re: Why doesn't nature's cells consume all of Earth?
Post by: 8pla.net on June 17, 2018, 11:39:24 am
It becomes fossil fuel.

 ::)
Title: Re: Why doesn't nature's cells consume all of Earth?
Post by: Art on June 17, 2018, 02:21:52 pm
If you just stop for a minute and look around you...

Everything you see and touch came from the Earth. Cars, houses, computers, silverware, glass, plastic...everything in your life came from the Earth.
And if left alone long enough, without humans, it would go back to the Earth once more!

Title: Re: Why doesn't nature's cells consume all of Earth?
Post by: ivan.moony on June 17, 2018, 04:03:31 pm
Life on earth uses Sun heat as a power source to produce organic compounds from compounds found on the Earth (Stephen Hawking).
Title: Re: Why doesn't nature's cells consume all of Earth?
Post by: WriterOfMinds on June 17, 2018, 08:48:24 pm
No type of organism consumes infinite resources because there is always some limiting factor on its ability to grow in numbers. Here are some examples:

*When a species' population grows, it is easier for that species' predators to find and catch a member.
*Disease spreads more easily through a large population in a small space.
*Eventually the population starts to run out of food. The lack of food slows reproduction and/or causes outright starvation.
*Members of the same species compete for limited territory, and may harm or kill each other, or limit one another's reproductive opportunities.
*Some species have relatively benign, socially enforced limits on reproduction (e.g. in a pack of wolves, there is typically only one pair that breeds at a time).

Not all of these considerations apply to microbes, but some do. If any species of microbes started to get close to consuming all the available resources in an area, they would either begin to starve and die back, or be eaten in large numbers by predators attracted to their surplus, or simply stop growing because there is not enough room -- no more suitable habitat in the form of soil-grain surface area.
Title: Re: Why doesn't nature's cells consume all of Earth?
Post by: LOCKSUIT on June 18, 2018, 12:26:52 am
No competing for limited territory! :P

Maybe individuals populated lots before a multi-celled blob saturated all soil as an immortal jellyfish blob pumpkin. They were like, eh!, attackkk!! Nibble nibble, then the pumpkin disappeared and left were the mites.
Title: Re: Why doesn't nature's cells consume all of Earth?
Post by: Korrelan on June 18, 2018, 02:45:45 pm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closed_ecological_system

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ecosphere

 :)
Title: Re: Why doesn't nature's cells consume all of Earth?
Post by: Korrelan on June 18, 2018, 08:16:42 pm
https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/news/318924/giant-invasive-plant-is-spreading-across-the-us

 :)
Title: Re: Why doesn't nature's cells consume all of Earth?
Post by: Art on June 19, 2018, 11:29:28 am
Yeah, as if the Kudzu hasn't already done enough damage...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kudzu_in_the_United_States (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kudzu_in_the_United_States)

Keep it up and we'll be an all Green country before anyone else!! (but in the wrong way of course).
Title: Re: Why doesn't nature's cells consume all of Earth?
Post by: Korrelan on June 19, 2018, 12:13:46 pm
The Martians had a similar problem back in the early 19th century with red weed; they just gave up trying to control it and invaded another planet lol.

I’m surprised that some entrepreneur hasn’t launched Kudzu burgers or some similar method of profiting from the stuff.

 :)
Title: Re: Why doesn't nature's cells consume all of Earth?
Post by: Art on June 20, 2018, 02:55:26 am
Yeah well, it does make me wonder just what all that weird looking lettuce & leafy stuff is in my salads when I eat at some of these more "youthful" almost Yuppie places. Looks very akin to weeds we had to pull from the garden as kids, not to mention Dandelion leaves and other 'Greenery'.

Kudzu in a salad...who'd know for sure once it's decorated with those croutons and onions and doused with dressing? Hmm... ;)

Getting back to topic (sry), the one main reason that the Earth hasn't 'consumed' and melted everything surrounding its core is that no one has turned the heat up high enough (yet).

Like melting lead or other metal in a small crucible. Only so much can be melted until the thermal temperature of the molten metal begins to cool within the pot, even with the addition of more metal. The situation might require a larger crucible for one but mainly more heat to aid in the consumption process.
Title: Re: Why doesn't nature's cells consume all of Earth?
Post by: ranch vermin on June 20, 2018, 07:16:34 am
As you guys probably know about me,  I think its only miracles stopping evolution from destroying the world,  its insanely powerful and things dont make sense to me.

Evolution is the hill climbing method in the purest form, inside the "natural model" like Archimedes "Give me a long enough lever, and ill lift the world"
I would say, in Darwins name "Give me enough robots in separate bodies doing only just hillclimbing, and ill have a very devil-like efficient pattern in its digital hive mind."


To put my point further.

Are our killer predators out there as savage as evolution can make them?
Are u sure sexual reproduction is more efficient than asexual reproduction?
Imagine a creature that clones its intelligence into its offspring so they dont have to start from nothing?
Imagine a creature thats constantly giving birth to itself.
And more,  just think about "the cracks in the system".

This is what evolution could make that people dont even consider.
Title: Re: Why doesn't nature's cells consume all of Earth?
Post by: LOCKSUIT on June 20, 2018, 02:56:31 pm
Made my day ranch. "constantly giving birth to itself" That's so horrifyingly beautiful.
Title: Re: Why doesn't nature's cells consume all of Earth?
Post by: ivan.moony on June 20, 2018, 04:11:30 pm
In asexual reproduction there is no generation improvement. A child is exact genetic copy of its parent.