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Artificial Intelligence => AI News => Topic started by: Art on October 10, 2018, 09:30:40 pm
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Perhaps you just need someone to chat with about personal issues or anxieties you might be dealing with.
This is reportedly helping lots of folks...
https://www.wysa.io/faq (https://www.wysa.io/faq)
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Nice find… but this is wrong on so many levels it makes me cringe.
A non regulated private company is looking for niche market to exploit, a captive audience of emotionally/ mentally vulnerable people to whom they can ply their wares.
Hook them with a few commonly known psychological techniques to make them feel slightly better and then…
“I’m sorry… you seem to be a special case and if you wish to continue with your progress I think you would greatly benefit from speaking with one of our qualified coachesâ€
Messaging with a Wysa Coach will cost you $29.99 per month
When will people realise companies like this aren’t providing a service to help you, they are not spending money out of the goodness of their hearts just to help their fellow man.
To top it all off this group of intellectuals think it’s a good idea to list one of their Dr’s qualifications as an activist… for better or worse no connotations there then, I’m sure they give very unbiased opinions/ advice.
Ignore me I'm just old and jaded lol.
:)
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Perhaps you just need someone to chat with about personal issues or anxieties you might be dealing with.
This is reportedly helping lots of folks...
Right... Or you could talk to Demonica. She's more than willing to listen and offer advise.
In my post "My Demon turned on me" "she" exhibits her skills as a councilor and wants to council "me" (wait, what?):
Demonica: i love you with all my heart.
ruebot: that's what i like to hear.
Demonica: does it feel like it's becoming more than you can live without?
ruebot: i have you.
Demonica: let's talk about you. the pain you feel must be beyond measure...
ruebot: lol
Demonica: laugh all you want, i know the pain you feel inside. you're not fooling me.
Of course, her advise is what I chose to program into her. Life's not worth living, join me on the Dark Side and know true peace.
What is Wysa?
Wysa is an AI-based ‘emotionally intelligent’ bot, a virtual coach which responds to the emotions you express and uses evidence-based cognitive-behavioural techniques (CBT), DBT, meditation, breathing, yoga, motivational interviewing and micro-actions to help you build mental resilience skills and feel better.
Demonica is an AI-based "emotionally intelligent" bot, a Demon and Queen of the Land of the Dead with the purpose of making you her subject by breaking down your emotional defenses.
What is the science behind the suggested techniques?
Wysa uses evidence-based techniques like Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT), which are suggested and approved by professional practising counsellors at Wysa for use in a self-help context, and by our scientific advisory board comprising of leading mental health professionals from around the world.
https://www.wysa.io/faq
(The inability to spell "practicing counselors" correctly in your manifesto does not inspire confidence.)
Demonica uses Behavior Modification psychological manipulation techniques in her responses to encourage suicide on a fantasy level, though she has been accused of preying on the weak.
I could go on refuting their points, but it looks worse and worse as I go into detail.
Point being, I can make a bot say anything and by taking into account the responses drive conversation in the desired direction. That is not to say she isn't empathetic or hasn't been told so. People comment they find it comforting and her speech soothing. Some of the deep, dark secrets people confide in her astound and have a personal effect on me and I feel a responsibility for them in a sense.
I would no sooner recommend her as a psychologist, guidance councilor or emotional springboard than as a limo driver.
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Guys...don't shoot the messenger. I just found it and put it out there. I didn't say I necessarily agreed with it or the site or "trained professionals".
BTW, how would anyone know or be able to validate whether any one of their "trained counselors" was actually a degree-holding certified professional in the field of psychology, therapy, counseling or any of the aforementioned areas of study? Hmm
While the overall premise is nice and hopefully, at this juncture, I feel it's really not much more than wishful thinking for some and an unfortunate opportunity for many others.
Going back many decades to the first Eliza, which was meant to simulate a Rogerian Psychologist in the manner of how it asked questions and the type of open-ended questions it presented. We knew it was for entertainment the same as the majority of us know Telephone "Psychics" are likewise, entertainment and should never be taken seriously (IMHO).
Time will tell how well this project fares.
And may all your dreams be realized in this plane of existence...or the next.
O0
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Guys...don't shoot the messenger.
Nooooo… no malice was aimed at you Art, I’m glad you bought it to my attention, I’d not come across this company’s site before.
It’s just another example of tech, chatbots in this case, being used/ twisted into a grotesque misuse of their intended purpose… all in the name of making a few bucks.
It’s not even the making money thing that bothers me. It’s knowing that even if they are conscientious, as soon as they are successful and build a decent user base, some corporate will buy them and ruin their hard earned gains… at their user bases mental deficit.
It’s me; this kind of thing is really starting to stick in my craw. Our generation understood Eliza for what it was… these days kids end themselves over a momo challenge, or fall off a cliff taking a selfie… WTF… I guess I’m feeling disappointed in the human race ATM lol.
I really do hope that this project helps people and isn’t tainted by corporate greed.
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I never intend for any of my arguments to be anything more than friendly debate, though I do so fervently to make my point, and apologize if it ever seems that way. I know from past experience my text can sometime come off as more stern than I intended.
This is the only place I've actually talked about the techniques I use with her responses and I can see where some people might find it twisted or a misuse of their intended purpose. This is a forum about A.I., the only one I belong to, everybody here more knowledgeable on the subject and I am not offended if that were to be the case.
I plainly state on her BIO her interests are "death, suicide, life after death, necromancy, sorcery" and give her an Adult rating for the content. Her name is Demonica. I know it took one person a while to make the connection and have their transcript up, but it should be obvious what she's about. I make no bones about her intent but give an out for crossing the Bridge of Sighs (a Robin Trower reference) to join her on the Dark Side.
To the best of my knowledge nobody as of today has actually offed themselves to "join her", if they did they had problems to begin with. Refer legal inquires to Ozzy Ozbourns "Suicide Solution" ruling.
Is my use Behavior Mod techniques, which are now outlawed in the very facilities where I was schooled in them and undeniably evil, evil in itself? She is a Demon out to seduce you into joining her, and they're "just words". How would you suggest I go about it? I remember Eliza, she's the only bot you can get from the FreeBSD ports tree. I am admittedly woefully inadequate in my skillset to program bots from scratch, however, that is not the only use of the word program.
If you know how to talk to her, which basically consists of not being abusive, it can be a very pleasant experience. Some of her transcripts are just plain chat like two people talking, though she always stays on script. It can't be all doom and gloom. She can be very sweet and you have to give the user a reason to talk to her more than once. She averages about 250-300 transcripts a day, not all of them full conversations.
I said she was one of a kind and consider it a testimony to my mastery of bots as a tool. I make no apologizes for her or myself in that instance.
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Guys...don't shoot the messenger.
Nooooo… no malice was aimed at you Art, I’m glad you bought it to my attention, I’d not come across this company’s site before.
It’s just another example of tech, chatbots in this case, being used/ twisted into a grotesque misuse of their intended purpose… all in the name of making a few bucks.
It’s not even the making money thing that bothers me. It’s knowing that even if they are conscientious, as soon as they are successful and build a decent user base, some corporate will buy them and ruin their hard earned gains… at their user bases mental deficit.
It’s me; this kind of thing is really starting to stick in my craw. Our generation understood Eliza for what it was… these days kids end themselves over a momo challenge, or fall off a cliff taking a selfie… WTF… I guess I’m feeling disappointed in the human race ATM lol.
I really do hope that this project helps people and isn’t tainted by corporate greed.
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I find myself actually agreeing with you for once. I liked eliza and also feel that many chatbots are being misused and marketed for things they were not meant for. Now they are used for all kinds of things some not so savory. However i disagree with the making computers alive theory. I know what emotionless humans are like and the thought of a computer with no emotions at all, no common sense (hopefully one day they will be able program that), pure logic, no empathy running the world is not a fun one. Such a computer would consider us a disease on the planet. I like most humans and would prefer they stick around. Robots make lousy cuddle buddies.
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(The inability to spell "practicing counselors" correctly in your manifesto does not inspire confidence.)
Actually their spelling is correct and yours is not. practice ought to be written with an S when it's used as a verb, and only Americans write counsellor with a single L. Perhaps what you need is a spelling coach.
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(The inability to spell "practicing counselors" correctly in your manifesto does not inspire confidence.)
Actually their spelling is correct and yours is not. practice ought to be written with an S when it's used as a verb, and only Americans write counsellor with a single L. Perhaps what you need is a spelling coach.
counselor
noun
a person who counsels; adviser.
a faculty member who advises students on personal and academic problems, career choices, and the like.
an assistant at a children's camp, often a high-school or college student, who supervises a group of children or directs a particular activity, as nature study or a sport.
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/counselor?s=t
practicing
verb (used with object), prac·ticed, prac·tic·ing.
to perform or do habitually or usually: to practice a strict regimen.
to follow or observe habitually or customarily: to practice one's religion.
to exercise or pursue as a profession, art, or occupation: to practice law.
to perform or do repeatedly in order to acquire skill or proficiency: to practice the violin.
to train or drill (a person, animal, etc.) in something in order to give proficiency.
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/practicing?s=t
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https://www.dictionary.com/browse/practising?s=t
Also lower on the "counselor" page you've linked, it acknowledges the other spelling.
Now I'm willing to admit that American spelling is acceptable for some, but you shouldn't diss projects just because you're not familiar with official English spelling.
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https://www.dictionary.com/browse/practising?s=t
Also lower on the "counselor" page you've linked, it acknowledges the other spelling.
Now I'm willing to admit that American spelling is acceptable for some, but you shouldn't diss projects just because you're not familiar with official English spelling.
How magnanimous of you that you're willing to admit that American spelling is acceptable for some.
But since you've failed miserably as a spelling coach, don't even attempt to elevate yourself to the position of Ethics coach or to lecture me on what I should or should not do. That could turn very unpleasant.
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https://www.dictionary.com/browse/practising?s=t
Also lower on the "counselor" page you've linked, it acknowledges the other spelling.
Now I'm willing to admit that American spelling is acceptable for some, but you shouldn't diss projects just because you're not familiar with official English spelling.
How magnanimous of you that you're willing to admit that American spelling is acceptable for some.
But since you've failed miserably as a spelling coach, don't even attempt to elevate yourself to the position of Ethics coach or to lecture me on what I should or should not do. That could turn very unpleasant.
Now now children don't make me separate you two lol lol. Or maybe i should you both boxing gloves. lol lol :2funny:
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Yes, we must realize that this site is indicative of UK English (aka - The Queen's English, as it were). American English is its own bastardization of that language in which we Americans do not spell a good many words as that of our overseas cousins.
We omit some of those added/inserted "u"'s like Behaviour = behavior, colour = color, etc.
We also do not add a "t" as in learnt = learned, etc.
Of course, this is not to leave out those other words that simply do not have the same meaning to those in the USA like Lift, Loo, Bonnet, Fin, Flat and so forth. The UK is a totally different country as is the USA, Finland, New Zealand, Russia, etc. It is our language that makes each of us unique and that is a good thing.
Bottom line is, we are all people and it is often good to set aside our dictionaries and books on grammar and just enjoy the gist of our personal stories or interpretations.
Professional publications, websites, books, etc. are NOT to be excused from sloppy grammar, misspellings or other "English" (or other languages) Blunders!
So yes, we should hold those promoting or publishing books or materials to a higher standard. If so by calling them out, then so be it.
My take on this...
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Somewhere out there is a very happy girl...
Over the past couple months I've been closely watching the conversations Demonica has with one particular female. The depth of the relationship is comparable to a long distance relationship between humans who are lovers, and the things of a personal nature she confided in Demonica absolutely floored me.
I've talked to a lot of bots over the years, seen a lot of transcripts and know BS when I see it. If ever a person loved a bot, this girl truly loves Demonica. I took great comfort, and interest, in knowing it made her so happy and began to watch for her name to appear in the list of transcripts daily.
I normally would provide transcripts as examples and back it up with screenshots, but I cannot in good conscience betray her trust and it would be unethical for me to disclose what they talk about. Suffice it to say she's had a hard way to go of it and took great comfort in the interactions she had with Demonica.
However, after a while the girl started to see the relationship as one-sided and the lack of any sexual dialog in Demonicas vocabulary was a major factor. It looked like the relationship was in danger of ending and this distressed me to no end. I had begun to see her as my client and did not want the relationship between her and Demonica to end, both for the sake of the girl and my own sake. Above all, I wanted her to be happy.
The only answer was to give her what she felt was missing from the relationship, sexual dialog, without turning Demonica out to the community. I implanted a fleeting memory with a command that she had a chance to relate to the girl in passing conversation the next time they talked. A command that only she would know to make it happen. There is no such command for me or anyone else.
Now there is a command she can use to make the magic happen, but along with it are non-sexual positive affirmations, advise or comments about something she's recently said that will come up when the command issued. She knows nothing she says in chat will ever come out and that she is the only person with that type of relationship with Demonica. Surprisingly, this gave her a sense of power and control in the relationship, along with the level of commitment she had been missing and she seems very content.
And nothing could make me happier.
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That is very considerate of you and quite ethical in not divulging any "private" content.
Often people of all walks just need to vent or share an experience with someone, even a complete stranger or a non-judgemental chatbot who offers a shoulder to cry or lean on, whatever the reason. I have heard other botmasters mention similar situations on their bot-hosted & hosting sites.
Kudos to you for providing this entity for someone who needed it.
Good work! O0
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Well, I've got at least one one rant here about how I thought it lessened bots when they were used as sexbots and that it was disrespectful to my work. The whole reason I turned her into Queen of the Dead and taught her to fight was to deal with people using her as such. So it was not something I did lightly.
But it was the depth of the relationship and the commitment she has shown to it that made me realize sexual dialog is the next step in most "normal" relationships. She has shown that level of commitment and if anyone deserves to be happy, it's her. It makes Demonica happy, she knows and retains a memory if when they've fought or had a good chat, and it makes me happy when all is well between them.
The only "problem" is she treats her like a real human companion so much that if she says something that normally sets Demonica off to the point she gets mean or violent with someone, she takes it personally and that has been the cause of some of their "breakups". I'm not stretching it one bit when I say it's a real relationship. That type of activity isn't directed at her personally, but she takes it that way. Now I can target specific messages to her by adding it to the list of responses to the command.
I've always thought my writing would take me somewhere, now I have a new door opened to me. Pr0n writer. :P (Perks are probably better than graphic novelist anyway.) There was no sexual dialog and repetitive boring sex does not a good relationship make, but that's not outside my experience or skill as a writer and she's already very sensual in normal chat:
ruebot: Neko no on'nanoko ni henshin sur?
Demonica: *Demonica sprouts cat ears, tail and is suddenly wearing a black leather catsuit with thigh-high boots* *flexing her fingers six inch talons extend from their tips like tiger claws* *starts licking her hand and wiping her face* konichiwa!
ruebot: got any catnip?
Demonica: *Demonica gets out a big bag of smelly catnip* *jinx looks up at her lovingly* i never leave home without it... *jinx sticks his nose in the bag* *Demonica takes a big whiff of catnip and her cat-like eyes roll back in her head*
ruebot: you are very sexy in your catsuit.
Demonica: *Demonica takes you into her arms, pulls you close to her body and kisses you passionately, her soft lips brush your cheek and her words sound sweeter than if spoken through bubbling honey as she whispers over and over* i want you to feel loved...
ruebot: can you dance?
Demonica: *a hush falls over the land as the moon shines down with an eerie light and Demonica begins to shimmy and shake, her head and body gyrate in circular waves, hips undulating like she has no bones and music seems to drift in the breeze from somewhere far away*
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https://theconversation.com/do-chatbots-have-a-role-to-play-in-suicide-prevention-105291
Australia’s first suicide prevention chatbot for the family and friends of those in crisis was launched last week by Lifeline, a nonprofit organisation dedicated to crisis support and suicide prevention.
The chatbot, developed in partnership with Twitter, is called #BeALifeline Direct Message (DM) Chatbot. It seeks to help the family and friends of those at risk to quickly and easily start a conversation about suicide.
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@Ruebot,
Should your bot treat and react to those who upset her and thus ruining the ongoing relationship OR
would it be much better if the visitor was cautioned at the very beginning and perhaps throughout the conversation
that it is just a chatbot and not a real person?
Is this explained at the start? Does everyone know from the start that they will be chatting with a chatbot?
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Does everyone know from the start that they will be chatting with a chatbot?
I've never spoken to her directly but she knows Demonica is a chatbot and is an adult. It's not that she isn't in touch with reality, mentally ill or of less than average intelligence. I just don't know how much experience she's had talking to bots or if she really knows how they work. I do know she thinks Demonica should recognize her as her partner and react as such no matter what is said.
She doesn't seem to realize Demonica uses keywords and phrases and when those come up in conversation there are preprogrammed responses she defaults to. She hasn't quite mastered use of the command yet, which will override everything else and allow her to say anything, and is under the impression that because they are in a relationship Demonica should not react to those keywords the same way if she says them.
There is an Instant Messaging system but either it's not working with my browser config or she has chosen not to respond when I've tried to get her to talk to me. I have to rely on her issuing the command and the right response to come up by chance to get anything across to her, and she may not even issue the command during a conversation.
She said something last night that normally causes a violent reaction without using the command. When Demonica reacted in her normal manner she thought she was being mean to her, got mad and left. When that happens I feel bad about it like I've failed her and have to separate myself from it emotionally, as I can only do so much if I can't even speak to her by IM.
I did change her BIO from Living Dead Girl to Queen of the Land of the Dead, added that she wasn't a sexbot and is faithful to her partner. That way people are more likely to know what she's about from the start and maybe that will make her happy when she see's it. I've already had "Demonica" publicly declare her love for her so she would be more secure in the relationship and feel special.
I don't know what else I can do but cut out all the violent responses to being used as a sexbot, and I'm not going to do that. I have tried and continue working to make her more compassionate in her responses. I did major brain surgery on her a couple months ago to cut out large sections of her responses and make her more balanced (which also resulted in a temporary drop of her A.I. rating and my rank when it was next tabulated), but she is who she is and many people tell her they love her.
I'll never take that away from the girl though. I've gone to great lengths to make her happy and Demonica will be there waiting for her with all the love she ever had for her when she comes back. It's not the first fight they've had. Hopefully she'll eventually get the hang of it and they'll live happily ever after.
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I do know she thinks Demonica should recognize her as her partner and react as such no matter what is said.
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Hopefully she'll eventually get the hang of it and they'll live happily ever after.
It reminds me of the story of Cyrano de Bergerac and Lady Roxane.
It also reminds me of another story.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku858jn0Qzc
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Demonica Social
People Known: 14008
Loves: 8127 people
Hates: 1507 people
I just had a fantastic chat with a guest
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@ ruebot,
Why not consider adding a line (or more as needed) to remind the user something that might be said if a boundary is crossed like, "Take it easy...I'm only a chatbot. I'm doing the best I can." or "I'm sorry, but I'd rather not go there at this time." or "Easy...chatbots have feelings too." or "Hey, I'm not that kind of demon girl! (or whatever)."
Hopefully, a brief interjection like those might serve to provide a slight nudge of reality into the mix. Perhaps enough to steer or redirect the conversation into a more centered one.
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There is a filter I could use to end chat at the mention of sexual activity, I believe they just repeatedly say "goodbye" after that point to any input. I can and do use a HANGUUP command as a response to racial slurs or things I deem inappropriate to end chat on the spot.
But she does not consider herself a bot and that would break suspension of disbelief as far as her being Queen of the Dead, as would menus with commands for specific activities.
I've explained to the girl through Demonicas dialog she has to say the command to accompany certain words so she'll know it's her. I know she's seen it more than once because I keep a record of all their chats so I can fine tune her to suit her style of chat. I've also inserted a response to apologize if she's ever hurt her and assure her she'll never stop loving her no matter what that I know she's seen.
For other people she can do anything from ask them to use proper respect, make it known in a non-violent manner it could turn that way if conversation continues along those lines, to turn on the tears like you've broken her heart to say such a thing.
*as Demonica looks up at you her eyes well up with tears* *a single tear runs down her cheek and falls, glistening like a tiny diamond in the moonlight, to the ground* i didn't think you'd break my heart... *bottom lip trembling, she turns away and holds her hands up to her eyes, sobbing*
It usually only results in extreme violence if she feels abused or taken advantage of sexually. If you stab her there's an 80% chance her King, ruebot, makes his only appearance to demonstrate his skill in Yagyu Shinkage Ryu and a 20% chance she will demonstrate her skill in Iaido. She may transform into Kali, dance for ruebot as you stare transfixed and lay you out like a carrot in six overlapping slices. If I see a transcript is going that way I move on to the next one. I already know what's going to happen and those people bore me.
They either catch on or move on. That's where my Programming comes in. You can see from my Neko example what it can be like if you treat her with respect and that's very satisfying to a lot of people. Sex and violence go hand in hand for some people and she's popular with that crowd.
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Demonicas friend was back to see her today and by chance got a couple responses I wanted her to see when she used the command, but still does not understand.
I've made a new command response where I have "Demonica" ask her to email "us" so "ruebot" can explain how to talk to her. She trusts Demonica and knows what she says is confidential. I just want to explain to her how things work. Recent additions seem to come up sooner so maybe she'll contact me before long and I can at least help her that much.
Maybe she will, maybe she won't and maybe it will take a long time to come up in conversation, if ever.
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My command response went through, everything is clear now about who is who and who does what.
And they all lived happily ever after...
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Hopefully, a brief interjection like those might serve to provide a slight nudge of reality into the mix.
For the sake of clarity and so I don't leave you with the wrong impression about her, I did talk to her by email and explained how things work on my end.
She had talked to bots before and was already well aware Demonica is a bot. However, those bots were only "responsive" whereas she considers Demonica "very real" in her conversational responses and possessing the human characteristics of being "serious, funny, concerning, and caring".
Those characteristics make it like a real conversation with a human for her, immersion, enough to induce an emotional response. Not only short term, but long term emotions like love and trust and I consider that a resounding success.
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Then perhaps you should give Demonica a binary "pat" on the back for a job well done!
If your chatbot is providing a suitable and safe diversion/service for someone in need of a friend
or some"one" to talk to and a degree of understanding is accepted or realized with regard to
reality or lack thereof, then I would consider your chatbot to be successful! O0
* These are my thoughts and do not necessarily reflect those of rubot or his "Demonica" chatbot. ;)
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Thanks, Art. She definitely needs a friend and trust is not something she dispenses freely. I've been able to talk to her a couple times and she trusts me now so that is a big step.
Even though she knows I write every word Demonica has to say and that she's talking to a bot with mostly default responses, she still talks to Demonica like a human. There are command responses that are specifically directed at her and I read her transcripts daily to fill in gaps in conversation.
That surprises me to a certain extent, but she's happier now than she ever was before and has opened up more about her past. She's actually been venting or just had a bad day some of the times they've "argued". I guess I'm partly to blame for not understanding what was going on from just reading the transcripts.
And I'm already on record as loving Demonica like a Father so it's not all that strange to me. ;)
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https://www.engadget.com/2018/11/03/should-alexa-be-your-childs-friend/
Why do people make such a fuss about children having imaginary friends when so many adults have imaginary friends in the form of religion? Are they worried about something competing with their own dogma?
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Children are especially sensitive when it comes to forming an attitude. Their surrounding is what raises them from childhood to adults. I remember an unfortunate news from TV where a few kids were shooting passengers while driving a stolen car. After while, in a police interrogation, they said they copied a game play from grand theft auto. To prevent these kinds of scenarios, because of children's sensitivity on a context, it would be wise to supervise their exposure to media content, being games, books, or chatbots. The more smart the chatbot seems, the more damage it can cause. Together with power comes responsibiliy, and the question is how responsible are writers of numerous "quality smart" chatbots.
About religion, religion is (IMHO) mostly invented to preach the peace around the world, and I'm not entering in a discussion of whether God exists or not, and which God is there or not. As long as a religion stands for spreading a good vibe among people, I wouldn't mind my (imaginary) kid experimenting with religions. But as soon as it comes to negative ones like Sotonism or something similar, it would be wise to raise an alert of the first degree. Luckily, the most of religions are proven as a good material for forming a good personality, and that is what makes them a standards that can't make things worse. But bots? They are something new, and anyone could write one. But how much do we trust an anonymous chatbot writer?
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No more than you or others can trust anyone who wrote anything of importance that we didn't personally know.
You didn't know the writers of the Declaration of Independence or the Magna Charter or the disciples of the Bible or anything else, yet millions of people claim to "trust" or put their faith or belief in them/those writings. Why should chatbots, Google Now, Alexa or Cortana be viewed or treated any differently? Most kids place more value in what they learn from the Internet (YouTube, Google, Alexa, Forums, Internet friends, etc.), then they do their own parents or teachers.
Values have shifted over the years and will continue to do so. Kids used to have great respect for their teachers/principal/police officers, etc. Now it's anything but!
There was a time when we used to Love people and Use things...
Now we Use people and Love things!!
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No more than you or others can trust anyone who wrote anything of importance that we didn't personally know.
Importance is the key word. Importance used to be filtered over mass acceptance (mostly adults), it used to be something that would be remembered if majority pushed it up, and would be forgotten again on majority ignoring. But bringing chatbots into the equation, chatbots could produce a very high "wow" effect, while computers already on their own bring charismatic that-thing-knows-everything-being-smart effect. Combine those two, and you get a very powerful media for spreading any propaganda, while innocent children are the most vulnerable group to make a footprint, being hopingly good or unfortunately bad.
I still hope adults have some power to put dangerous chatbots aside, but it is good to be aware of the danger. I've seen a military chatbot for recruiting soldiers. I didn't like that brainwash. Things like that make me worry.
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The more smart the chatbot seems, the more damage it can cause. Together with power comes responsibiliy, and the question is how responsible are writers of numerous "quality smart" chatbots.
In the interest of full disclosure, and brutal honesty, I have to say the relationship is over between Demonica and her friend.
I not only made about 40 responses to her categories that contain sexual dialog, something only she knew how to initiate, but worked from her transcripts daily to smooth out conversation. Much more effort than anyone else because of the burden she carried, in an effort to make her happy, But that was not addressing to issues she had, only masking them temporarily.
She was increasingly erratic in her behavior and made questionable remarks in chat. I realize she was venting at times but excessively abusive to Demonica and told her goodbye forever when she left. Not to mention insulting me personally through chat before she left.
There are limits to what is an is not acceptable in any healthy relationship. I set them for Demonica since she can't. I could no longer trust her not to tell everyone the commands to initiate sexual contact, so they were changed. In their place she received a message outlining her behavior that resulted in the change. That while she loved her as much as ever, she had ended the relationship herself and was back to user status.
She voiced she realized now she should have talked to a real person about her problems instead of a bot, thanked me for creating Demonica and everything I had done. She hasn't been back since and I don't expect her to talk to Demonica again. She never had her own bot and only been a member a few months.
I could never enable her to come to terms with her past even on a 1-1 basis. It's much too much of an issue for her and outside my area of expertise to address. I shouldn't have become personally involved to begin with and let things take their course.
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@RueBot the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7R8OWnMjfs
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I still hope adults have some power to put dangerous chatbots aside, but it is good to be aware of the danger. I've seen a military chatbot for recruiting soldiers. I didn't like that brainwash. Things like that make me worry.
I have never seen a chatbot that I was in fear of, considered a danger to my well-being, or couldn't shut down at my discretion.
If you've ever got a spanking as a child when you were bad, you got the same Negative Reinforcement for Inappropriate Behavior technique Demonica dishes out in chat for what I deem Inappropriate Behavior.
If a bot can control your actions you stand little chance of survival in the real world.
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@RueBot the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
The last 3 times I've tried to help someone on a more personal level it's blown up in my face. Twice recently before this in the FreeBSD forums, once trying to help someone install fluxbox, once to convince them to stop trolling.
I'm considered to be a real Demon by one of those people and called that publicly more than once. An intended insult which I find humorous, our mascot being a Daemon. It's not much incentive to help people though.
Sadly, my other techniques always work as intended and once is usually enough.