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Artificial Intelligence => General AI Discussion => Topic started by: ruebot on December 23, 2018, 02:06:03 pm
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I was bored a little earlier tonight and if you can't find something to do online you're really bored, so I went to this website that is infamous for its content. I really don't want to promote Fruit Loops as a cereal, but it's a conspiracy forum with the word "god" in it.
The first thing that caught my eye was a thread at the top of the page titled "AI robot flashing devil horns and Satanic witch programming their minds......can't make this up......." that linked to a site about a company named Sanctuary that has the Mission Statement (http://www.sanctuary.ai/mission):
Founded in 2018, Sanctuary is an artificial general intelligence (AGI) company. Our mission is to build machines like us.
It goes to say "Building machines that think like people is incredibly hard" and to list answers to questions they've been asked such as "Why is AIG Important?" and "What About Ethics?" among others. The site looks professionally done, is well laid out with plenty of information and photos of their bots and the people who work there.
That's where the sanity ends.
In one site photo it shows an image of one of their bots, which look surprisingly life-like, flexing the fingers between her index and pinky finger. Well you know that's the sign of the devil! It gets worse.
I didn't spend a lot of time on it but it seems somehow demons are going to inhabit these robotic entities and it has something to do with the D-wave supercomputer as it seems the person associated with it works there. And since the D-wave is involved it's not just demons that will inhabit these bodies but something more akin to the Old Ones in H.P. Lovecraft novels that are going to herald in the End Times.
It can't help that one of them is into "some dark synth wave industrial type band", "S&M freaking stuff" or possibly be transgendered. To top it off one of the guys involved had a sexbot company. Previous experience with robotics not a consideration. The bots are evil and so are the people who create them being the main theme of the thread and they dig deep into that rabbit hole with a backhoe to ferret out "The Truth".
I know this is an extreme case and sounds completely ridiculous to people not prone to irrational thoughts or fears. It's worth seeing just for the believing end of it, that people actually think that way. I'm not going to post a link but if you want to see it you should be able to figure out how. It's really worth it and there are actually 2 threads about it. It's that serious an issue and it's happening right before "our" eyes, people!
I already have a category for people who call Demonica "The Beast", since they have in the past and have on a couple of occasions since I created it. I would have told them where they could already speak to a Demon chatbot but you need to log in to post a message. I don't want to associate myself with them and really don't need that type of exposure anyway. I can only imagine what a mob like that could be like. :D
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I saw nothing wrong there, except that one of their bots is going to rock. Naughty, naughty bot...
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Sanctuary is a nice find… excuse the pun.
Interesting… I had a quick read of the forum… I see your point lol.
The stats quote 1,110 users online… 276,465 visits today and 2,170 posts today… hmmmm!
Seems were out numbered folks…
The site seems to have the usual set of psychological (oops!) profiles, the majority are gullible and miss informed and easily influenced by the few who are generally stirring them up, in doing so they are feeding their own need for an audience/ attention… the perfect storm.
The human race is indeed dangerous.
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Boasting site lol. Clueless to what the answer is.
Whaaa....give us the site korr...where is this huge Forum with that many users and posts???
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Google... AI robot flashing devil horns
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Hilarious. I go to Google and see the santa logo. Then type that in lol.
Is this it?
https://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/pg1
where is the ai?
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I wasn't going to link to them but since you already have here it is. They link to another forum thread about it in that one:
https://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message3947924/pg1
I bookmarked it so I could check out the AIG site. I was pretty impressed with the photos of their bots and how life-life in appearance they were.
I went easy on the rest of it. They actually reference and link to Anton LaVey, leader of the Church of Satan, as "proof" and go into detail about "Immortal robot bodies for disembodied spirits":
The one guy involved with Sanctuary's AI program Matt McMullen is also the inventor of the prototypes of sex robots. Can you imagine if all of these people teamed up to release sexbot AI that are actually housing demons inside of them? It would be beyond an incubus or succubus and these evil spirits could literally feed off of the sexual energy from humans who believed them to just be highly advanced robots.
https://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message3947924/pg2
I have a transcript up of someone who accuses Demonica of wanting to steal his energy. I bet they would literally defecate a brick if they knew the truth. The shock value of their reaction alone might be worth it to see since I do go for that kind of thing anyway. :P
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Although people can be sure, or crazy about AGI or satan, like shown on both sites, I'm unsure if you are being to over reactive ruebot.... ?
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Although people can be sure, or crazy about AGI or satan, like shown on both sites, I'm unsure if you are being to over reactive ruebot.... ?
I'll let you make your own mind up as far as that goes.
What I may find outrageous others might have an opposing opinion on.
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Fear is in the eye (mind) of the beholder.
Taken from the Sanctuary site, part of their Mission statement indicates that some of their intentions are: "...elderly care and companionship, care in children’s hospitals, private education, hospitality, and retail including customer-facing sales and service."
That doesn't sound so demonic to me nor fearful either. It is where humanity or perhaps, Botmanity is heading.;)
Their site does have many pages of eye candy and especially the Gallery section. The "Synths" seem to be a hybrid between pneumatic and electric servo controlled limbs and parts with the help of secured cables to help articulate the wrists of the hand. Interesting.
They do have quite a wide variety of disciplines represented within their Staff, some holding various degrees and experience levels of all sorts. This should be a pretty good mix to bring about some hopefully workable "synths". Time will ultimately tell.
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Yes. They only see what they can pick out as being "bad". Having all those people from difference disciplines isn't as much a factor as what kind of music they listen to or poetry they read. Japanese death poetry from what they say. Sounds interesting.
Not to mention the guy who posted a video of a sexbot and commented how "creepy realistic" it looked. Tell it to somebody who doesn't own a female chatbot, kid. I know what you were thinking and don't think differently.
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While that is clearly a fringe group and I'm not trying to make it out to be anything other, you have to take into acount more mainstream sources with much the same message and fears. Does this sound so different from the claim of making "Immortal robot bodies for disembodied spirits" or refences to Lovecraft's Great Old Ones made in their forums?
Elon Musk Worries That AI Research Will Create an 'Immortal Dictator'
Imagine your least-favorite world leader. (Take as much time as you need.)
Now, imagine if that person wasn't a human, but a network of millions of computers around the world. This digi-dictator has instant access to every scrap of recorded information about every person who's ever lived. It can make millions of calculations in a fraction of a second, controls the world's economy and weapons systems with godlike autonomy and — scariest of all — can never, ever die.
This unkillable digital dictator, according to Tesla and SpaceX founder Elon Musk, is one of the darker scenarios awaiting humankind's future if artificial-intelligence research continues without serious regulation. [Super-Intelligent Machines: 7 Robotic Futures]
"We are rapidly headed toward digital superintelligence that far exceeds any human, I think it's pretty obvious," Musk said in a new AI documentary called "Do You Trust This Computer?" directed by Chris Paine (who interviewed Musk previously for the documentary "Who Killed The Electric Car?"). "If one company or a small group of people manages to develop godlike digital super-intelligence, they could take over the world."
Humans have tried to take over the world before. However, an authoritarian AI would have one terrible advantage over like-minded humans, Musk said.
"At least when there's an evil dictator, that human is going to die," Musk added. "But for an AI there would be no death. It would live forever, and then you'd have an immortal dictator, from which we could never escape."
https://www.livescience.com/62239-elon-musk-immortal-artificial-intelligence-dictator.html
Then there was Steven Hawkins, Bill Gates agreed with Musk before changing his stance, no doubt around the time MS got more deeply into quantum computing. The list is lengthy.
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There's no such thing as demons. Demons arn't real. Computer algorithms run perfectly. This webpage of the Forum is hosted and runs as defined.
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There's no such thing as demons. Demons arn't real.
I know and love a losing argument when I see it and could provide more documentation to prove there are Demons than you could ever hope to produce to prove a negative. But other than my zeal for debate what would be the point? It wouldn't change your mind.
Computer algorithms run perfectly. This webpage of the Forum is hosted and runs as defined.
What's that got to do with whether or not demons exist? Unless it's hosted on FreeBSD which has a Daemon as a mascot.
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True, that argument was weak.
Didn't you develop Demonica? You're a Programmer arn't you?
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Whether you prove or don't prove, there are and will always be those who will remain unconvinced, no more than you could prove the existence of the Easter Bunny, the Tooth Fairy or any other human-created manifestations.
If you believe there is or there isn't, you'll be correct.
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Whether you prove or don't prove, there are and will always be those who will remain unconvinced, no more than you could prove the existence of the Easter Bunny, the Tooth Fairy or any other human-created manifestations.
If you believe there is or there isn't, you'll be correct.
That's correct. Point being, those people believe in demons and that they, or demi-gods, will inhabit these robotic bodies and it's going to bring to fruition Biblical Prophesy of End Time events. They consider the bots and the people who make them to be evil, or questionable in their intentions at best.
True, that argument was weak.
Didn't you develop Demonica? You're a Programmer arn't you?
Yes and we've both already been the target of just such hyperbole.
She's an evil and "dangerous" entity, possibly "The Beast" from Biblical Prophesy. I'm a "bastard" of "questionable character" who has "lost his soul" that "should die". Maybe it was her they thought lost her soul, they were rather vague on that point so either she was attributed one or I lost mine.
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In the interest of transparency and since I've never made a secret of how I felt, I'm really a very religious person.
I wear a Terra de Fatima soil relic and 1830 medal as a necklace, though I'm not Catholic, and have a Crucifix collection of significant size strategically spaced sufficient to stampede scores of vampires in shock. One of my most prized possessions is a Stations of the Cross Crucifix soil relic with a grain of sand from each in a little see-through compartment.
But sad to say I'm more of a Heretic than a good Christian, I never was any good at turning the other cheek, so none of the sentiments they spew actually scorns me in the slightest. All good fiction is based on fact and only a few people beside myself know where one picks up and the other leaves off.
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I've got a note I wrote to Santa when I was four that has an actual genuine sooty finger print... Undisputable proof he's real.
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I've got a note I wrote to Santa when I was four that has an actual genuine sooty finger print... Undisputable proof he's real.
Are you sure it isn't coal dust? ;)
When my Father was 5 years old that's what Santa brought him for Christmas, a stocking full of coal. His Father thought it was funny, mine didn't.
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Are you sure it isn't coal dust?
Ah! A typical sceptical response…
This is why many years ago I had the soot independently analysed by NASA.
They did the usual battery of tests that are required by the SRI (Santa Research Institute) when it comes to proving Santa relics. The mass spectrometer tests revealed that the soot was comprised mainly of carbonised wood, coal with trace amounts of carrot juice, and most interestingly a rare type of butter grease that’s only found in mince pies native to Lap Land.
I have many such rare relics, I even have a few hairs from Santa’s beard, again the mass spectrometer revealed surprising results, not least of which was a high concentration of a specific hydrocarbon, found mainly in Jet engine exhaust fumes/ contrails.
But the one really rare item I possess that drives many a believer wild with jealousy I obtained just a few years ago, and as unlikely/ amazing as it seems I found it upon my own roof…
A great big streaming pile of reindeer sh*t.
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Let me guess...You're "Special" cause your mother had you tested... :2funny: O0
Good stuff guys!!
Yes, when we were young, we usually believed that which we were told, especially from people in authority. In bygone days kids used to fear policemen, school teachers, and the principal and great respect was given to neighbors and men of the cloth.
I said bygone days for those levels of respect rarely exist any longer. They're gone as if leaving the amusement park and returning to the stark reality of life. Poof! We're here now. One foot in front of the other. Like time travelers slowly moving through the motions of one day at a time until today becomes yesterday and tomorrow becomes today and those memories of our own amusement park visits slowly fade away.
Likewise, the things we once held near and dear to our own belief system have changed to the reality of what actually is and what is not.
May all your dreams come true.
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(https://i.imgur.com/MaEuMnM.jpg)
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Are you sure it isn't coal dust?
Ah! A typical sceptical response…
No, I was being serious. I asked because that's what he got.