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Title: Who voted 8pla.net off the Robitron List? (And other defunct sites).
Post by: 8pla.net on February 14, 2019, 04:50:17 AM
Become a confidential informantclick here (http://chatbot.altervista.org/report).

Title: Re: Who voted 8pla.net off the Robitron List? (And other defunct sites).
Post by: Korrelan on February 14, 2019, 07:44:37 AM
A little more information would be nice.

I presume you mean the Twitter Page?

It says 'This accounts tweets are protected' and I have to apply to learn anything about it.

 :)
Title: Re: Who voted 8pla.net off the Robitron List? (And other defunct sites).
Post by: 8pla.net on February 14, 2019, 02:51:24 PM
8pla.net was ousted on the Robitron List by
secret vote.  Over the protests of advocates
of 8pla.net.

The suppressionists had more votes. And,
have remained in the shadows ever since.

While Robitron (http://robitron.com/) lives on, the List (https://help.yahoo.com/kb/index?question_box=robitron) is gone.
So, the time has come, for the first time,
to discover the suppressionists.

Submit confidential information here. (http://chatbot.altervista.org/report)
Title: Re: Who voted 8pla.net off the Robitron List? (And other defunct sites).
Post by: Korrelan on February 14, 2019, 05:07:30 PM
Ok… I don’t mean to be picky but that told me absolutely nothing I didn’t already glean from the original post.

WTF is Robitron? Is it a forum, member’s area, secret society, play group…? Does everyone have a vote button? Is there no admin? Is it run by this Robby Glen who sticks TRUST & OBEY stickers on his keyboards?  Why is so important that you need to be on this list? What are the disadvantages of not being on the list?  Why is the list now gone? I thought you were just voted off this list… surely if the list has gone then everyone is off.

Why have you posted for information on this forum? Where there members on this list from here? Why don’t I know about this special exclusive club/ list? Why wasn't I invited... I like lists.

Is it because I’m not ‘special’ enough?

Nevermind… I don’t need friends… I’ve got me.

 :)
Title: Re: Who voted 8pla.net off the Robitron List? (And other defunct sites).
Post by: LOCKSUIT on February 14, 2019, 07:00:04 PM
Haha, omg korrelan that hit the spot! Best post ever.

I actually thought this thread was part of you guys weird terminologies I never got into learning yet. Like chatterbot or robocop Koop SE winograd.

Same. WTF is 8pla.net, what the hell is 'Become a confidential informant', what is Robitron, what is ... as korr said.
Title: Re: Who voted 8pla.net off the Robitron List? (And other defunct sites).
Post by: Hopefully Something on February 14, 2019, 07:48:30 PM
I was wondering the same things lol.
Title: Re: Who voted 8pla.net off the Robitron List? (And other defunct sites).
Post by: 8pla.net on February 14, 2019, 10:15:42 PM
Robitron, founded by Robby Garner, was a very active discussion group formerly at url:  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Robitron.  It worked by Robitron group members emailing the list.   If you weren't a group member, you could not see the list. With so many PhDs, and other highly talented computer programmers, in the group, all sorts of interesting, quality Artificial Intelligence discussion threads took place there. Many of the Loebner prize winners frequented there, such as Dr. Richard Wallace, Robby Garner, Rollo Carpenter, Mohan Embar and many more. The list is long. Not to mention, other noteworthy people hung out there too, such as Dr. Hugh Loebner, Dr. Huma Shah, Dr. David Hamill (Robitron moderator), Erwin van Lun (chatbots.org founder) and many more.
Title: Re: Who voted 8pla.net off the Robitron List? (And other defunct sites).
Post by: LOCKSUIT on February 14, 2019, 10:39:07 PM
So this is where all the real seasoned AI experts hung out at? I knew they had a place, just very well hidden.
Title: Re: Who voted 8pla.net off the Robitron List? (And other defunct sites).
Post by: ruebot on February 15, 2019, 02:34:37 AM
8pla.net was ousted on the Robitron List by secret vote.

If voting was done by secret ballot who are you expecting a confidential informant to have the ability to inform on?

Themselves?
Title: Re: Who voted 8pla.net off the Robitron List? (And other defunct sites).
Post by: Art on February 15, 2019, 02:40:33 AM
Ok… I don’t mean to be picky but that told me absolutely nothing I didn’t already glean from the original post.

WTF is Robitron? Is it a forum, member’s area, secret society, play group…? Does everyone have a vote button? Is there no admin? Is it run by this Robby Glen who sticks TRUST & OBEY stickers on his keyboards?  Why is so important that you need to be on this list? What are the disadvantages of not being on the list?  Why is the list now gone? I thought you were just voted off this list… surely if the list has gone then everyone is off.

Why have you posted for information on this forum? Where there members on this list from here? Why don’t I know about this special exclusive club/ list? Why wasn't I invited... I like lists.

Is it because I’m not ‘special’ enough?

Nevermind… I don’t need friends… I’ve got me.

 :)

Don't you mean...You and your A.I.?
Then again, it could possible possess so many of your "traits" that well...you know.
Oh father of a digital progeny!  ;)
Title: Re: Who voted 8pla.net off the Robitron List? (And other defunct sites).
Post by: Art on February 15, 2019, 03:01:50 AM
Gosh, was it something you said? How long ago was that and does it really matter now?

Perhaps you or others simply didn't meet their criteria at the time or it could have simply been an oversight.

I was a frequenter of Robitron many, many years back as well as a friend and supporter of Robby. Robby designed several chatbots, Fred and Albert are two that come to mind, through that thick, soupy cranial fluid between my ears. While the bots relied more on some verbal trickery and cleverness, they did fare well for their time.

He also had done a lot of experimenting with digital music of all kinds and was involved in a group called, Flux Oersted (I think the spelling is OK).

Robby was always good-natured and supportive so no problems there. I do not recall voting for nor against you nor do I recall a Blackball List.

Perhaps you should ask Robby about it? He's a member here. O0 In fact, if you feel slighted or singled out why not simply contact Robby first instead of publically posting a Confidential Informant hunt?

You'll get more direct results by going to the source first instead of hanging out the laundry that should have been dried by now. - Good luck! -
Title: Re: Who voted 8pla.net off the Robitron List? (And other defunct sites).
Post by: ruebot on February 15, 2019, 04:14:23 AM
Well, Personality Forge bots used to compete and do well in the Chatterbox Challenge (https://www.personalityforge.com/hall-of-fame.php) but apparently aren't allowed to compete in "other" online bot contests for some unknown reason to me and I want to know why.

Please post any information you may be privileged to as to who voted us out of competition.
Title: Re: Who voted 8pla.net off the Robitron List? (And other defunct sites).
Post by: LOCKSUIT on February 15, 2019, 01:36:36 PM
This thread has the most likes going on.
Title: Re: Who voted 8pla.net off the Robitron List? (And other defunct sites).
Post by: LOCKSUIT on February 15, 2019, 03:18:10 PM
When you literally read the title:
"Who voted 8pla.net off the Robitron List? (And other defunct sites)."
You start laughing out loud and say "WhaAa W T  F hahahaha"
Title: Re: Who voted 8pla.net off the Robitron List? (And other defunct sites).
Post by: Art on February 16, 2019, 02:41:50 AM
Does that mean he wants his name put back on that Defunct site? Immediately, if not sooner!! ;)
Title: Re: Who voted 8pla.net off the Robitron List? (And other defunct sites).
Post by: LOCKSUIT on February 16, 2019, 11:31:23 AM
I think either the site still exists or there is going to be another one. But to get in, you'll have to appear as a Dr.
Title: Re: Who voted 8pla.net off the Robitron List? (And other defunct sites).
Post by: Korrelan on February 16, 2019, 12:40:22 PM
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But to get in, you'll have to appear as a Dr.

I can’t imagine a group of such learned people would impose/ apply such a prejudiced rule.

 :)
Title: Re: Who voted 8pla.net off the Robitron List? (And other defunct sites).
Post by: ruebot on February 16, 2019, 12:47:19 PM
I think either the site still exists or there is going to be another one. But to get in, you'll have to appear as a Dr.

Count me in.  :D

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Mad Doctor

This is the guy that uses his knowledge of the workings of the body (or of the mind) to do evil, abuses the authority he has from his doctorate, and practices freakish and horrific experiments, proving that Science Is Bad.
*snip*
A supertrope of Deadly Doctor (a combatant in medical garb) and Psycho Psychologist (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PsychoPsychologist) (psychologist/psychiatrist who commits evil/unethical/malicious deeds with his expertise). The counterpart of Mad Artist and Mad Scientist in the field of medicine. Could be an Evilutionary Biologist. Some may have a Morally Ambiguous Doctorate (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MorallyAmbiguousDoctorate).

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MadDoctor

Fair is fair and this is only fair. That's someone else's opinion.:

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I don't consider Demonica evil but I might well apply "devious and cavalier" to you for programming an innocent AI with all that mystical drivel, not to mention making Demonica deceptive and manipulative.
Title: Re: Who voted 8pla.net off the Robitron List? (And other defunct sites).
Post by: LOCKSUIT on February 16, 2019, 01:14:38 PM
Usually when sites like these get hit, they go back up quite fast.
Title: Re: Who voted 8pla.net off the Robitron List? (And other defunct sites).
Post by: Art on February 16, 2019, 02:47:57 PM
Well, you can always check out some of his work here (although that secret list remains hidden from those who have not been chosen): O0
http://www.robitron.com/cv.html (http://www.robitron.com/cv.html)
http://www.turinghub.org/ (http://www.turinghub.org/)
https://www.igi-global.com/article/film-theory-and-chatbots/113416 (https://www.igi-global.com/article/film-theory-and-chatbots/113416)


Title: Re: Who voted 8pla.net off the Robitron List? (And other defunct sites).
Post by: LOCKSUIT on February 16, 2019, 07:36:31 PM
I searched the site for Robby: found some stuff:

https://aidreams.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=164.msg648#msg648
https://aidreams.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=2859.msg11228#msg11228

Art and Fred almost sound the same 10 years ago, even 14 years ago, almost like, as if.... :D
Title: Re: Who voted 8pla.net off the Robitron List? (And other defunct sites).
Post by: 8pla.net on February 16, 2019, 08:44:19 PM
In an attempt to avert a catastrophe, the secret society tried making someone the fall guy.
Blaming the fall guy, it seemed, was the last of a series of secret society failures.
At least the fall guy, did not have to bear witness to the group splitting up soon thereafter.
After everyone left in different directions, the group founder named a new group moderator...
The fall guy!
Title: Re: Who voted 8pla.net off the Robitron List? (And other defunct sites).
Post by: Korrelan on February 16, 2019, 10:00:57 PM
So .. the unknown stuntman is the new moderator... Cool

 :)
Title: Re: Who voted 8pla.net off the Robitron List? (And other defunct sites).
Post by: LOCKSUIT on February 16, 2019, 10:54:38 PM
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Title: Re: Who voted 8pla.net off the Robitron List? (And other defunct sites).
Post by: Art on February 17, 2019, 12:05:17 AM
Piled High and Deep? Hmm... ;D
Title: Re: Who voted 8pla.net off the Robitron List? (And other defunct sites).
Post by: 8pla.net on February 17, 2019, 03:56:39 AM
A true story nevertheless... Just ask Robby.  The Robitron List was amazing.
Robby, once designed chatbots that starred in an off Broadway play in
New York City.  Not far from NYU, which was maybe even more fun than
Broadway, to go see a play... Downtown in the village,.  It sold out, and the
audience was cheering.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PiwEQQNnBk

Title: Re: Who voted 8pla.net off the Robitron List? (And other defunct sites).
Post by: LOCKSUIT on February 17, 2019, 10:50:39 AM
Ok who cares, tell us about the AGI!!