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AI Dreams => General Chat => Topic started by: HS on July 22, 2019, 06:54:50 pm
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Is there anything to it? What do you think, and do you have any stories? Are ghosts imprints of people, and if so, can we imprint ghosts into robotic bodies? I heard this story about a supernatural encounter on smarter every day's podcast a few years ago and I can't forget it. I'm thinking that maybe it pays to be agnostic about this stuff rather than just full on atheist.
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As a younger guy, and a passionate evolutionary athiest, I would've detested what Ive become now. Now I think the absurd reality of nature being a intervened half developing creation, seems more probable to me. I think evolution by itself cant make things as fun as if god decides things happens instead. In other words, I believe evolution by itself is not as interesting, without god making a "garden" for himself, to make things happen, that evolution by itself wont develop.
Gods hand is always here, to protect things as he likes them to sit. If you want to meet god, one way is to change things, god will come into your life, to stop you from doing it.
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The supernatural is a huge topic. For myself, I've fallen into the adage 'The older you get, the more you realize you don't know.' There have been some awfully convincing ghost videos--and orb videos--on YouTube, for example, and such videos combined with UFO videos with their resulting insights and hearsay, combined with extensive evidence of coverups from government, combined with biblical material talking about the master deceiver, combined with the Donald Marshall revolution--which talks about how military sector technology is already capturing souls that depart the body, then downloading them back into cloned bodies via supercomputers, and how DNA acts as antennas that hook onto the soul--combined with hearsay about secret drug experiments by the military industrial complex to communicate with interloka beings that inhabit our space but on a different frequency--all have me marveling about how much is going on that the average person knows nothing about, and how the average person is living in an extremely parochial and unreal world. I have references for all the above, if anybody's interested in any of those particular topics.
P.S.--I think I'll add a few references below, at random over the next few days, on some of these topics in case anybody is afraid to ask.
INTERLOKA BEINGS
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https://www.ancient-code.com/the-fbi-admits-visits-of-beings-from-other-dimensions-declassified-fbi-document/
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Alex Jones - The Government Is Using DMT To Talk to Aliens!! | Joe Rogan
JRE Clips
Published on Feb 27, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1D5021KBsqs
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Joe Rogan & Alex Jones Discuss Interdimensional Beings
JRE Clips
Published on Feb 28, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01mV7LZlnE8
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David Icke Why Shapeshifting Is Possible
Mr Camoron
Published on Jun 13, 2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8-1_tr-i_c
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Spirit Science 7 ~ Dimensions
Spirit Science
Published on Jan 1, 2012
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPkX0iOVX18&t=35s
DONALD MARSHALL / SOUL TRANSFER
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https://astral7ight.blogspot.com/p/soulconsciousness-transfer-into-clones.html
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Spirit Science 9 ~ Astral Projection
Spirit Science
Published on Jan 1, 2012
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VB6h_bWR3Y&t=2s
GHOSTS
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'Haunted' Restaurant Camera Shows Furniture Moving On Its Own
b/60
Published on Oct 30, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQGFgAvYsUI
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5 Creepy Videos of Real Ghost Caught On CCTV
Terrifive
Published on Apr 25, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09m3HR8jVMg
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Unexplained Creatures Caught On Trail Cams 2014
ADGUKNEWS
Published on Aug 22, 2014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWP8ti_pTBA
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REAL GHOSTS Caught on Tape? Top 5 Real Ghost Videos 2017
Nuke's Top 5
Published on Mar 4, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BuLhF2x4Xs
ORBS
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Shocking CCTV Video Footage- Bright 'orb' frightens fox at night in New York
D&D News
Published on Dec 17, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivr2vPEDQPA
COVERUPS
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Ted Gunderson The Franklin Coverup Investigations YouTube 360p
STEPS TOWARDS TRUTH
Published on Jul 18, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsNF398T2Pk
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The Nimitz Encounters
The Nimitz Encounters
Published on May 26, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRgoisHRmUE
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Peak Oil? Oil is Not a 'Fossil' Fuel Origins of Oil - The Best Documentary Ever
Keshawn Moore
Published on Nov 15, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTZhGvAdz2U
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Escobar on Fukushima email leak: 'Deleting data a cover-up'
RT
Published on Mar 23, 2012
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wn6I6dj8PlA
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Mysterious Radiation Cloud Over Europe Linked to Nuclear Accident In Russia
DAHBOO77
Published on Jul 30, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcfwIWdT7u0
SPIRITUALLY-BASED DECEPTION
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http://www.godandscience.org/doctrine/ufo_existence_of_demons.html
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Aliens Are Simply Demons UFOs are Chariots Of the gods
RichieFromBoston
Published on Jun 11, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHTBnGIWh9M
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Here, this is the one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIphnd7xbpE
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HS your right the more treats in your bag the more nipper u can tick but you have to not put silly stuff in their too that you know is wrong, we know god and spirits don't exist, we know we are hardcore machines. So you're killing your treat bag when you put that in their, because it's a really terrible effector. I am strong because of my decisions, yous are weak because of your hopes.
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You know what I think is weak, Locksuit? Saying "we know" and taking it for granted that other people will agree with you. At least some of us DON'T know anything of the kind.
"Yous are weak because of your hopes," says the guy who hopes that AGI will become ASI, make him immortal, and usher in utopia. C'mon, Lock. If your past posts are any indication, you've got about as many hopes as the most devoted religious person. You just attach them to a different object ... an object which potentially requires as much faith as God. There is no certain proof that we will even manage to invent AGI within your lifetime, let alone proof that AGI will successfully bootstrap itself to ASI, or that the ASI will do what you hope it will do.
Have a little humility and let HS explore the possibilities. Since HS never even said why he finds this interesting, could be it's simple curiosity and has little to do with hopes for life after death or whatever.
For my part, I see no particular reason why all modes of existence should be directly accessible to our senses and instruments. I see no reason why there shouldn't be things "out there" that touch our experience only rarely and unpredictably. Assuming that common and scientific knowledge, i.e. that subset of facts which we poor humans have been or will be able to rigorously verify, counts as all of it, seems unwarranted. While I try to avoid believing in anything specific without some evidence, staying open to such evidence when/if one finds it is a good posture. I'm definitely not revealing my whole position with that, but I'll leave things there for now.
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If can make AGI, how to make AGI, if can make AGI in my lifetime, if will become ASI and will so fast enough, if ASI will do what I want it to do.
Haha true.
There is a lot of background to my beliefs of course, that say yes to all of those events. I've viewed myself and data enough to know how I work and what AIs will can do.
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Lock,
Right now you believe what you believe and have formulated opinions based on those beliefs but rest assured, your beliefs WILL CHANGE during the next several decades of your life. Some of these future changes to your way of viewing and thinking about things will dramatically be in conflict to what you think you now know!
It's as one gets older one often gets validation of personal "theories, thoughts, beliefs or views" and also gets a rejection of some of these as well.
We learn as we go through life and a lot of people learn to Adjust. Life is a series of Adjustments for us.
Just something to think about...
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I already know that, I have changed a lot from 16 years old. I used to let God be an idea, now I don't one bitty. I used to see others as more person, now I believe solid we are raw systems. I am robot!!!!!!
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Right! Of course, you do!
For a lot of people, with age comes maturity.
For others...not so much.
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No worries. :)
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By the way, Andy. Have you seen the Joe Rogan podcasts with Graham Hancock and Randal Carlson about ancient civilizations?
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By the way, Andy. Have you seen the Joe Rogan podcasts with Graham Hancock and Randal Carlson about ancient civilizations?
No, but that's right up my alley, so I'll look it up. I also believe the evidence for very advanced ancient civilizations on this planet is very strong, and I do tentatively believe such civilizations existed. That's another huge topic, though, worthy of a separate thread if enough people are interested.
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As a child I long used to believe in many supernatural things, including a deity, fairies, alien crop circles, ESP, ghosts, etc. We regularly saw convincing documentaries about them (much dramafied of course). Until, one by one, explanations arose. The deity's story didn't add up, the fairies were doctored photos by two old housewives, crop circles were man-made with rope and plank, many ESP people proved to be frauds, haunted houses eventually turned out to be Radon-gas induced hallucinations, sightings of alien lights were sometimes rare cases of lighting plasma bolts. I like to keep an open mind, but the record is in favour of skepticism.
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Everyone knows most kids believe in ghosts, fairies, aliens, God, etc. In fact with very young kids, you can just "say it". Their parents are really good at this, but I'll be quite now. They can get out of it, or into it, but it takes more evidence now. Do you think you are much older? Even korr is 419 and still adorable! Some are 40 years old and quite dumb, some are 40 years old and quite smart, but you will always be a baby (so long as human), even with all of Man's Wikipedia passed down. Also yes, everyone has all the Wikipedia, but that doesn't mean they are on the right track.
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I like to keep an open mind, but the record is in favour of skepticism.
I think this is a very wise stance. Yes, there exist many fakes out there: people who admit to creating crop circles, many faked photos of Bigfoot and UFOs, faked CGI footage of giant spiders or flying people, and so on. I believe the number of authentic, inexplicable UFOs is less than 5%, if I remember the statistics correctly. However, that small percentage is where the pseudo-logic "Aw, they're *all* just fakes" breaks down: there do exist truly bizarre, inexplicable observations, even when measuring scientific phenomena, and it is such small anomalies that often prove longstanding theories or assumptions false and create entirely new branches of science, so such anomalies are often *very* important and fruitful to investigate. Such anomalies were how Pluto was found, how the photoelectric effect was discovered, how quanta were discovered, how chaos theory began, and much more.
I've been careful of that drawback when posting links above. For example, most orb footage looks like specs of dust to me now (for the moment I can't find the footage of the orb floating down a trail at night that was very convincing), and a high percentage of supposed ghost videos are just insects walking on the lens of the camera, which makes the insects appear blurry and semi-transparent. I'm aware of many of the common causes of misinterpretations, so I've been careful not to fall into the most common mistakes when posting links that I believe are particularly convincing.
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If we are talking about glowing floating orbs, a documentary I saw 20 years ago explained them as extremely rare but existing occurrences of ball lightning. They float above ground for a while. It is a very fascinating phenomenon, but not, as anthropomorphism would have it, alien.
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One time in the morning I seen a red dot light in orange morning clouds moving around, it was 'moving around' like a ship, and was drifting somewhere, eventually faded. It was like a demon light, only a laser beam it could be but didn't seem like it. However not sure any crash land-ers would be interested in experimenting publicly some ambitious morning shows than hiding and taking refugee. So it tends to become ridiculous as time passes.
It happened after I was put in foster care at 15 (don't worry i got back soon).
Prior to the day of taking, I seen a blue light whip across the kitchen backsplash as I stood in the hallway. Somethings up I say. Mom says she seen it too but let's leave that out of the evidence in case. I seen a blue tall door appear in her room where it went I suppose, but can't say 100% I did, it was from the side of my view. Also, there was rotten egg smell there the same or next morning...Which never happens. I think mom brought it up. Then I smelt it there too.
It those time travelers, using frigin light beams to warp time lol.
It's those damn life-changing events after all, didn't you know? Must go back in time...
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A sulfur smell also happens to be one of the consequences of ball lightning. Just saying.
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There are a lot of different things I've seen on YouTube that people call "orbs". In roughly decreasing order of frequency, here are what appear to me to be the categories, and what I perceive each category to be:
1. dust particles blowing around randomly, especially when there are many tiny orbs, inside or outside
2. insects flying near the lens, so that the insect is blurred and looks only like a fuzzy dot, inside or outside
3. a single bright orb in night footage, usually centralized and barely moving, that nobody can see, probably a focusing/lens effect
4. totally unseen things that only dogs and cats see or hear, probably just something in the wall like termites or mice
5. UFOs, of various sizes at various distances, usually too far to make out any detail (uncommon)
6. balls of light within a few feet of the ground, usually at night, floating by slowly, sized like a baseball or basketball (rare)
7. ball lightning (rare)
It's type #6 that fascinates me, but as you said, that might be explainable by ball lightning, like in this daytime video in Russia:
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Unique video: Super-rare ball lightning moving across Siberian field
RT
Published on Aug 5, 2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIB3NPTdwmc&t=18s
If anybody's interested in videos of those other types and is too lazy to look them up on YouTube, I might post examples. There was another phenomenon called "rods" that turned out to be only moths, after a serious investigation was done of them, an investigation that used two cameras at different speeds aimed at the same location (a cave entrance). I still see clear-cut moth footage called "orbs" on YouTube, posted by people who never saw that documentary video. Moths evidently fly in an unusual manner very quickly that creates streaks on film where the streaks look like rods with tiny wing-like protrusions along the sides of the streaks.
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One time I thought I swear I saw a just larger than fist sized white bright ball go down my hallway, it swirved up and down as i seen it for 1 whole second, around 14-16 years old, from the very side of my eye though, as i faced my computer, and saw it because of the brighness at the left side of my view just barely. It was flying down the hallway....to my mom's room too.....seems to be the spot to go lol. Yeah, crazy, and hard on evidence even for me, but hey, it's possible it could be anything. Oh yeah, I wanted to say something:
Anything can be real, aliens planning to take sample from your eye, and, do it for real. Jesus, Mohammad+Jesus, ghosts, fairies, you name it, and believers. In a simulated world, like a game, except magic is real and you are in the world, and you really believe it. Yes, anything can be so, it can be legal to kill, and be a pleasure. Plus, no one dies either, gets weirder!! For 500 years you can simulate a real society of religious followers of a Jesus landing and preaching, performing miracles, but you bet it would require a mother of a computer to run it, and really good physics and AIs, fooled AIs lol. But in our home world, there's no ghosts to bit you, and God doesn't teleport your soul to hell.
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But in our home world, there's no ghosts to bit you, and God doesn't teleport your soul to hell.
Speaking of teleportation, below are some videos to consider. One of the reasons I keep an open mind is that there are some *very* weird things that go on, things that defy any conventional explanation, and I'm pretty good at explanations. If you have good explanations for the following, I'd like to hear them. With all the camera/video footage and communication that exists today (especially the Internet), we're learning just how weird a place this planet is; no longer can a reasonable person walk around and believe they're in a mundane world where everything has a conventional explanation. I believe many of the explanations involve secret high technology, but it's often hard to figure out how high-tech explanations apply to some of the phenomena, and what type of technology could be involved (like how or why a device would teleport a man a few feet upwards into a ceiling).
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5 Real life cases of TELEPORTATION that Science can't explain
Mysterious 5
Published on Jul 15, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CseVcfUs0y0
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Doctors Baffled As Man "TELEPORTS" Into Ceiling
secureteam10
Published on Nov 8, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXZsPFt9hYw
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Top 10 Mysterious Cases Of Teleportation That Can't Be Explained
YouFeed
Published on Nov 15, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIdX2-avQKs
P.S.--The Asian bicycle accident in black & white was a "fake"--one person showed it was a trailer for an Asian film (game?).
Also, the flying vans event was shown to be caused by a fallen wire stretched across the street that was not visible to the camera.
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NEW Disturbing Questions About Our National Parks w/ DAVE PAULIDES
secureteam10
Published on Jul 3, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Srq9DZtH-80
P.S.--Long, but very good video.
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Thanks Andy!
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Thanks Andy!
You're welcome. I'm glad you seem to be enjoying my knowledge dump.
To me, that video on the "Missing 411" suggests that secret high technology is being used in those particular events, to very quickly and discretely move humans out of a given location, or maybe to instantaneously transport them somewhere, without damaging them, and without giving them any time to call out for help, fire a shot, or do anything else to alert others. Just last year the news came out that the University of Bristol developed an acoustic tractor beam that can function without concern for the acoustic wavelength used, and of course the military is interested in using that technology to remove soldiers from a location. That's the kind of technology I mean: technology that most of the public doesn't know about, and in which the military is obviously interested, and could explain events attributed to magic or the supernatural.
According to Phil Schneider in 1995, secret military sector technology was 1,200 years ahead of public sector technology (i.e., the technology the general public knows about), and was advancing 45 years per calendar year. You can do the math yourself, but the implication is that by this year (2019), secret military sector technology would be over 2,200 years ahead of public sector technology. That's almost literally beyond most people's comprehension. Tractor beams that could quickly and safely move human bodies around at will would be old hat to the military sector by now. Remember that: (1) technology is always far more advanced than the public knows about, (2) humans have been used as living guinea pigs by governments for at least decades, probably for all of human history, with total disregard of laws or morals, (3) very advanced technology is often mistaken for magic or the supernatural.
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Tractor beam breakthrough could lead to levitating humans
Eric Mack
January 21, 2018
https://www.cnet.com/news/tractor-beam-acoustic-levitate-bristol-university-humans/
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Scientists Just Used a Tractor Beam to Levitate the Largest Object Yet
Seeker
Published on Feb 23, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHAe4FFHtB0&t=51s
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As soon as one of us guys finishes his advanced ai, there will be weird sightings of robot aliens around the place, and its US WHO CAUSED IT.