Are robots predictable ?

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Re: Are robots predictable ?
« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2016, 12:47:07 am »
Yes sir.
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Re: Are robots predictable ?
« Reply #16 on: December 07, 2016, 12:57:57 am »
Okay, it's an interesting theory.

How do you get it to run faster than the speed of light though ? Because if the fastest thing in the Universe already is light - how are you going to power it ? There's a paradox there - you need ingredients that don't exist in the universe - so what now ?

And then (for the sake of argument) if you found something, you'd have to find something faster, because your model will not include everything. And so on.

Also where are you going to get your materials from ? Your materials have to exist in the universe in the first place. If you want a 1:1 model then you would have to use all the matter in the universe - and then there would be no universe to model !

It's problematical.


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Re: Are robots predictable ?
« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2016, 12:59:10 am »
You have to be the creator of a universe to do so.
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Re: Are robots predictable ?
« Reply #18 on: December 07, 2016, 01:07:05 am »
If you want to know the future of our universe then you have to contact our creators.
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Re: Are robots predictable ?
« Reply #19 on: December 07, 2016, 01:10:57 am »
Plural. Who might these creators be ?

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Re: Are robots predictable ?
« Reply #20 on: December 07, 2016, 01:17:17 am »
Plural. Who might these creators be ?

Whoa whoa whoa whoa... Freddy?  ???
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Re: Are robots predictable ?
« Reply #21 on: December 07, 2016, 01:18:52 am »
Oops sorry, did I say something bad ?  :-[

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Re: Are robots predictable ?
« Reply #22 on: December 07, 2016, 01:21:35 am »
Erm...

Uh, hmm...

Err...

Nope, not at all!

Keep going! O0

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Re: Are robots predictable ?
« Reply #23 on: December 07, 2016, 01:25:39 am »
The time you contact them is the time they want you to and will grant access.
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Re: Are robots predictable ?
« Reply #24 on: December 07, 2016, 01:26:11 am »
Seriously, I hope I've not offended  ::)

I can't prove what I am saying to any certainty that would satisfy me - I have doubts about the speed of light for example...I'm only going by what I have been taught, read and picked up along the way.

A benevolent creator could well be out there - who am I to argue against that.

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Re: Are robots predictable ?
« Reply #25 on: December 07, 2016, 01:39:02 am »
A benevolent creator could well be out there - who am I to argue against that.

As rationalists we are routinely offended by the sheer ignorance and stupidity of religious people and they certainly don't feel embarrassed about it, so why should we?

If you look around, you will see ample evidence that god is either malevolent, impotent or nonexistent, so even if there is a god, it isn't the one that any modern religion claims to know about.

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Re: Are robots predictable ?
« Reply #26 on: December 07, 2016, 01:48:13 am »
I'm more inclined to follow science than any thing else because I find it more tangible.

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Re: Are robots predictable ?
« Reply #27 on: December 07, 2016, 01:54:03 am »
Well, how to offend half the world in three easy steps by Freddy. Look and learn people, look and learn.

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Re: Are robots predictable ?
« Reply #28 on: December 07, 2016, 02:29:18 am »
If you have programmed the machine to perform an action, are you still saying that it cannot be certain that it will perform that action ?

This may be one of those times when Locksuit was accidentally correct. ;)

Motion planning is actually very complex and can require a huge amount of computation. It depends on the robot and the environment, but solutions aren't necessarily guaranteed. In human terms, imagine trying to fit yourself into a box that's 50cm on a side, or even smaller. I've seen some contortionists do it but not everyone could.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_planning#Completeness_and_Performance

Obviously, IF you have programmed a machine to perform an action, then it will, otherwise you have not programmed it to do so.
Aside from a remote possibility of a lightning strike, power failure or mechanical part defect, you'll have about a 99 % certainty of the machine performing an action.

I put clothes in my washer, add detergent, turn the settings knob and push it ON, the machine starts to work, filling the basket with water to a programmed level, turning the agitator to work in a back and forth cycle, then finally draining, rinsing, spinning and shutting off, having performed it's programming perfectly, as it has for the past 15 years!

In fact this machine is so good, that once filled and programmed and turned on, I don't even look back. I just turn off the laundry room light and close the door, knowing that it will perform it's programming.

Any questions?  :knuppel2:
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Re: Are robots predictable ?
« Reply #29 on: December 07, 2016, 02:37:36 am »
No matter what particular position any person chooses to take on any given day about any given subject, I can guarantee someone will get pissed off about it in some way or another!!

So, be ye not offended my brethern, speaketh thy mind as if no one will harken to thy words. Verily I say to thee, be of good cheer and go about thy ways for thou art a unique person and of a good and humble mind. Peace be unto thee!

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