A.I choreography

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A.I choreography
« on: December 17, 2016, 07:35:29 pm »
that's right an AGI gotta do that too
start brain storming

dance styles
speeds
goal behind dance ?
motive of a dance
specific parts of the body used for reason ?
is it like programming ?
is it linked to actions or stories ?
event triggers

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Re: A.I choreography
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2016, 09:06:56 pm »
This is my personal theory, I didn't look up online. Feel free to add and correct anything.

It is linked to prediction.
Our brain is built with the ability to guess.
When we successfully anticipated something, we get positive feedback. That depends, when we failed to anticipate, but outcome of something even greater than the anticipation, then it can also be a positive feedback if the situation is not negative.

Depending on what are we guessing, we receive continuous positive feedback.
That's why we like to perform certain patterns, and listen to patterns.

Music consists of variation of patterns, so is dancing.

However, we can get bored doing and receiving the same pattern, the feedback become diminished over time. Breaks can be taken to make the memory forgotten before we're interested again, or look for new music/dance moves for more impressions.

Edit: We like to impress others, that, too, gives us positive feedback because we are social beings. We dance, and sing to the audience for that particular reason.
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Re: A.I choreography
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2016, 04:41:12 pm »
a dance as songs is almost always 2 to 5 minutes long
what can this teach us ?

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Re: A.I choreography
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2016, 04:51:36 pm »
there is probably a recommended minimum 4 D pattern length
there is no way a good dance would be shorter than a minute
it shows the bot has endurance and good body parts
if she lives on the not VR space in reality it makes sense

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Re: A.I choreography
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2016, 06:27:55 pm »
@hashirama I could be wrong but something tells me you want to add the ability to
dance without a separate code that you believe it should be a capability enabled by the
main AGI code ?

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Re: A.I choreography
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2016, 09:03:12 pm »
a dance as songs is almost always 2 to 5 minutes long
what can this teach us ?

It teaches us about how long can we become bored listening to a song, and how much we crave when the song is too short to become satisfying.

@hashirama I could be wrong but something tells me you want to add the ability to
dance without a separate code that you believe it should be a capability enabled by the
main AGI code ?

Dancing is a type of pattern movement. Pattern prediction is part of the AGI code by default, so as it happened, it is part of our brain features as well.

The only difference is that dancing is linked to sociology, movements, and others. So there is a clear problem that we need to add the mechanism that drives the motivation to dance. For example, a lazy person wouldn't want to dance, for sure.  :2funny:
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Re: A.I choreography
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2016, 12:19:41 pm »
The AGI might learn the types of patterns, wavelengths, amplitudes, (beats, melodies, tempos, etc.) that elicit certain movements in humans that can be harmonious or disruptive. Slow musical tempo and rhythm or fast, techno-industrial music or symphonic / classical music for slower dancing.
The AGI can eventually become the DJ. and the people it's puppets! ;)
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Re: A.I choreography
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2016, 03:40:45 pm »
a song must have an almost immediate repeating element to be recognized as a song
otherwise the pattern could be too long every song would have the potential to be a musical

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Re: A.I choreography
« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2016, 04:25:43 am »
A lot of songs have repeats and "hooks" (those sections of either a melody or lyric is especially powerful, harmonious or emotionally delivered).

Even thought some songs are not "normal" everyday songs like Opera, Musicals.

While (practically) all songs have music, not all music is song. Classical music of various types and composers, Jazz music, played and "felt" but might not have lyrics put to rhythm or melody.

Yes, most modern types of song has duplicated lyrics, talked lyrics and no lyrics (instrumental), and most are of a fixed length of 3 to 5 minutes although there are always exceptions of all kinds.

Is an A.I.'s Composition easily discernable by most humans compared to a composition written by a human?

What if a computer wrote it but a human or humans played the composition? That would be interesting to hear.

We know computers can play what humans write so that's why it was not included.
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