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Re: As if we humans are completely unable to put pen to paper, we now have...
« Reply #15 on: February 01, 2017, 02:14:34 pm »
I noticed you used the word obviously and was wondering
why an A.I use abstract words like obviously, important, complex...

also just cause she likes something doesn't mean she will buy it she
can simply travel outside.

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Re: As if we humans are completely unable to put pen to paper, we now have...
« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2017, 12:55:09 am »
That might hold true only IF the AI can discern the difference between the need of a product for a specific / intended purpose AND succumbing to every commercial trying to convince the viewer (human or A.I.) that the product is needed...a have to have item.

I used Obviously because even if I allowed my A.I. to routinely order things for me from online sources, as a lot of people do, I would not expect it to have a shopping spree with my credit cards. All pointing back the the paragraph above...to know the difference between needing or liking a product because the online vendor said I needed to buy it!
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Re: As if we humans are completely unable to put pen to paper, we now have...
« Reply #17 on: February 02, 2017, 12:23:27 pm »
can it be said obviously is a marker for the A.I you talk about ?
if there were such bad A.I as say pegi bundy A.I she could be talked about as
unfortunately or paradoxly or even costly.

my costly A.I ordered shoes online
my obvious A.I bought me bananas

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Re: As if we humans are completely unable to put pen to paper, we now have...
« Reply #18 on: February 03, 2017, 02:03:00 pm »
Obvious = apparent, in one's face, of course, readily understandable, easily perceived or understood.

You would obviously not let a child drive a car. One would obviously not pet a rattlesnake.

While you call it a 'marker', I would refer to it as a "rule" or conditional situation.

And yes, Pegi Bundy would obviously not be a good choice as a spouse.(for me). ;)
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Re: As if we humans are completely unable to put pen to paper, we now have...
« Reply #19 on: February 03, 2017, 03:22:21 pm »
it is then a conditional marker.
what if we had 5 pegi A.Is and 2 chobit A.Is
and you wanted to say shut down that pegi A.I ?
they need to be uniquely marked, than shut down the 3rd A.I from D left.
lets compare this with the case I want to shut down all pegis :

it would take longer but then I could use the upper class marker
but it would stop the senseless ordering of shoes.
shutdown unfortunate A.I.

back to the thread the solution adblocker uses is to recreate the page
wuth the neg element out:
https://adblockplus.org/faq_internal

there is no way for the eye to describe abstract concepts is there ?

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Re: As if we humans are completely unable to put pen to paper, we now have...
« Reply #20 on: February 05, 2017, 01:26:45 pm »
An eye can only look / perceive...it cannot speak. An eye is only an Input device, not an output one.

A human (or possibly very gifted computer) should be able to describe an abstract to someone although it just wouldn't be quite the same as if the other person would have seen the subject first hand (in person).

In the same thought, it would also depend on the person describing the object. If their arms/hands were bound and they could only use their voice, it might be somewhat difficult for one to describe a spiral staircase or a violin without using their hands. Vocabulary would play a large part in how well, or poorly one would be able to describe the item.
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