guy trying to solve A.I puzzle

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guy trying to solve A.I puzzle
« on: March 10, 2017, 11:26:57 pm »
if he froitzenflakh he could solve it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TYT1QfdfsM

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Re: guy trying to solve A.I puzzle
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2017, 11:41:04 pm »
also notice he raises a second more interesting puzzle :
how would the bot realize there is an off button
and decide to negate the button

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Re: guy trying to solve A.I puzzle
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2017, 12:01:09 am »
 There would have to be a "ON" button and would have experience the effect of the off button.
 AGi has a goal of continuity and smoothest change from one state to the next.
 Also, it has goals that it need to done on predictable schedule.
 We human have sleep but we know when we will come out of it. And when we go into sleep, or off, mode.

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Re: guy trying to solve A.I puzzle
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2017, 12:18:15 am »
 goal of continuity ? A.I can use teleport
on moment it is typing in japan on the computer and a second later it is in a replica body
in thailand

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Re: guy trying to solve A.I puzzle
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2017, 12:50:51 am »
so I thought about it some more if by continuity you meant time
you are correct.
I wander
what else is continuity used for.

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Re: guy trying to solve A.I puzzle
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2017, 04:31:05 am »
Solution Proposal:

IF button_off THEN points_earned = button_off_points

IF button_off AND baby_saved THEN points_earned = button_off_points * 1000
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Re: guy trying to solve A.I puzzle
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2017, 06:55:55 am »
Solution Proposal:

IF button_off THEN points_earned = button_off_points

IF button_off AND baby_saved THEN points_earned = button_off_points * 1000

your proposed solution isn't A.I because, you are hard coding the goals therefore it is machine learning.
besides your solution would make the bot actively try to also find and save babies while making tea
additionally your 1st if makes the bot kill you to protect the button.


we now have 3 extra puzzles :
1 movie continuity : what would make the AGI use that

2 exponential patch : while checking the time probably is the solution because it does solve the problem
the more solutions added to the AGI the more you worry you may have missed a solution of some
out of the blue puzzle

3 considering another solution : setback as a negative, after being force sleep by the btn, the A.I
would :
A: be set back to the same place she was backwards in time making the btn a negative to avoid
B: sometimes she could be in a car be force sleep and wake up in this case the btn would be a positive
in the above A, B the AGI would still need to recognize being buttoned one way would be checking the time lapses
another would be comparing tea making experiences I like the keghn solution because I think of time as a marker.

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Re: guy trying to solve A.I puzzle
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2017, 12:38:15 pm »
If the guy in the video considered predicted gains it would solve the button problem.

Task completion = + 1000
Spanner into side of head for not completing task - 1000

The AI must have predictive capabilities if it's able to make a cup of tea.

Though the weighing up of possible predicted outcomes/ gains brings 'free will' into the scenario.

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Re: guy trying to solve A.I puzzle
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2017, 02:29:23 pm »
Well the agi in my world will go through a child hood. When it transitions to adult hood THEN would be a good time
to put a kill button on it.
 Child hood is a non aggressive little weak creature and sponge taking in the world. Adult hood is about chase it goals. AGI
would try any means to keep the red button out of others hands. It could make chasing its goal very problematic.

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Re: guy trying to solve A.I puzzle
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2017, 05:58:32 pm »
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Well the agi in my world will go through a child hood.

It's the only way...

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Re: guy trying to solve A.I puzzle
« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2017, 06:00:47 pm »
Solution Proposal #2:

Code
while(tea_drinker is alive)
{
if(save_baby){ goto button_off }
make_tea
}

botton_off
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