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Korrelan

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Give us what you got!
« on: June 15, 2019, 01:45:39 pm »
Natural Code LLC will pay the researcher $100,000 for the initial discovery of such a code. If the newly discovered process is defensibly patentable, we will secure the patent(s). Once patents are granted, we will pay the full prize amount to the discoverer in exchange for the rights. Our investment group will locate or develop commercial applications for the technology.

https://www.herox.com/evolution2.0

Is it me just being paranoid... show us how it works and then we'll pay you... hmmmm!

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Re: Give us what you got!
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2019, 03:58:45 pm »
They're not just asking for a program that learns, adapts, evolves, or follows some other method of gathering information.  My understanding is that they're asking someone to discover a law of nature that, in essence, spontaneously produces information out of non-information under the right conditions -- without invoking random chance.

Color me skeptical that such a thing even exists.  This might be about as useful as offering a prize for the successful demonstration of a perpetual motion machine.

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Re: Give us what you got!
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2019, 05:49:20 pm »
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Prize amount as of May 31, 2019 is $10 million.


Translated: Give us the secret of AGI (a trillion dollar per year industry) and the secret of life (i.e., control of the universe) and we'll get the patents, but then (if we can't legally weasel out of it) we'll pay you $10 million.

No thanks. I wouldn't even give these scum the time of day.

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Re: Give us what you got!
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2019, 06:51:59 pm »
Im sure if you could handle that, ud pretty much win the millennial prize anyway,  so its worth more than $100,000.

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Re: Give us what you got!
« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2019, 02:31:32 am »
Locksuit LOVES these puzzles. I will likely answer it correctly. However others may not be able to accept the answer.
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Re: Give us what you got!
« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2019, 02:57:41 am »
Remember our past discussions.

The question-seeker:
#1 It's better to tell your ideas to the world, to receive 'help' boosts. Open AI and Evolution 2.0 employs this.

The answer-giver:
#2 And it's better to tell the whole Earth your secrets, so that no one can steal your credit.



Btw their encoding>decoding idea for evolution looks like GPT-2 AGI (Machine Learning Transformers) haha! Told yous!

"a purely chemical process that will generate, transmit and receive a simple code--a process by which chemicals self-organize into a code"

"the jar of chemicals on its own would be assigning meaning to symbols. The configuration of chemicals and not the human inventor would be making creative linguistic choices and creating a coded communication system. Basically, the Sponsor is looking for a formula or transformation process that turns matter into information"

"All communication systems have an encoder, which produces a message, which is processed by a decoder. DNA transcription and translation matches the pattern in the above diagram. The Sponsor of this Challenge is seeking discovery and proof of a naturally occurring code, which also matches this pattern."

"7. The message passed between the encoder and decoder components must be in a sequence of symbols forming characters of a finite alphabet. For this purpose, a “symbol” is a group of k bits considered as a unit. (A more complete definition of “symbol” in the context of this Challenge is set forth on page 340, numbered paragraph 8, of the book, Evolution 2.0). A “character” is a group of n symbols considered as a unit. (For a more complete definition of “character” in the context of this Challenge, see numbered paragraph 9 on page 340 of the book, Evolution 2.0). In the system, n+k must be equal to 5 or more, such that it is a 2-layer system which can represent at least 16 digital states."
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Re: Give us what you got!
« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2019, 04:23:37 am »
I got new discoveries thanks to korr.

They want so much patent time, MEETINGS, hard testable proof, money reward. I'll show them none of that matters. It's all about the information. I work fast paced.

"This would represent a landmark discovery in the history of science and alter our fundamental understanding of the universe. If we can unearth the underlying forces that create and propel life, we stand to reap enormous benefits in Artificial Intelligence, engineering, computer science, nutrition, aging, health, cancer research, disease treatment and prevention. A solution to this problem will become one of the most pivotal scientific and technical discoveries of the 21st century. The winner will receive substantial recognition. Origin of Life is the hardest question in science. No one knows how the first cell came about. But there’s a simpler, more fundamental question: Where did the information come from? An answer will trigger a quantum leap in Artificial Intelligence. This may be as big as the transistor or the discovery of DNA itself. A new $10 million prize seeks a definitive answer. The discoverer will retain a percentage of ongoing ownership of the technology, sharing in future profits of the company, while benefitting from the extensive finance, marketing and technology experience of our investment group. Prize amount as of May 31, 2019 is $10 million. "

The first part of my message will have something like:

"Well guess what, I don't focus on cash or waiting for patents at all. A technological utopia is just around the corner in a fast paced world.

I got answers fast."
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« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2019, 06:10:08 am »
Well it is a chemical reaction, so technically, if you knew the ingredients and process, you should be able to make DNA. It seems to be a very rare mixture, and/or, very unlikely process, because it's only happened once in billions of years on something as huge and variable as the earth.

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Re: Give us what you got!
« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2019, 06:13:20 am »
*It doesn't occur too often.
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