I LOVE SL. Sorry (but not ashamed).

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I LOVE SL. Sorry (but not ashamed).
« on: December 02, 2008, 01:23:18 PM »

Hi everyone!

Yes, I love Second Life. And sorry if it's not politically correct to write that on AI/VR forums. Old looking game (really sure it's a game?), no AI in it (poor human brains only), entertainment for ordinary people (non-specialists of computers)... I know, I know.

And I also know I'm very late. Joined SL 6 or 7 months ago (when I finally got a "normal" computer, lol). SL started in 2003 and I guess most of you made the trip 2 or 3 years ago, or more. When reading old threads, seems that many forums members suddenly disappeared, maybe in the virtual Bermuda Triangle of SL, and never came back. ;D

I have had a lot of fun during several years, by playing and experimenting with Haptek characters, and with Pandorabots (never been a fan of UltraHal). It was a nice adventure and now it's time to turn the page.

Afraid I'm hooked to SL. At the beginning, I thought it might be interesting to play the little programmer with the Linden Scripting Language. Maybe later, for now I don't need that. Living my second, third, fourth lives, as an ordinary user, it's enough. And fascinating, more and more amazing. More and more addicted... until the next passion. Of course. Hopefully.

No recent post about SL here. Wondering if other stupids like me still exist on this forum... ::)

"There is no RL. Only AFK." (Jamie Jervil, resident of Second Life)

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Re: I LOVE SL. Sorry (but not ashamed).
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2008, 01:33:53 PM »
Nothing to be ashamed of anyway GT40, I have had some fun in SL but in the end I found it wasn't really for me.  There is some AI though because Vit Rossi from V-Humans forum had an AIML cat on there which I was talking to.  I found talking to real people was more interesting, so it's a lot like real life!

I know what you mean about it being 'entertainment for normal people', I guess that's why it has done so well.  Us graphics junkies are well out-numbered it seems!

And the Bermuda Triangle - yeah I had those same expereiences, people just disappeared and never came back.  The same kind of thing happens in the gaming world too, by which I mean MMORPGs.  Sad to see them go, but what can you do.

Anyways, enjoy yourself, I do hope you will return here sometimes unlike the others.  We do like to see you and maybe I will give SL another try some time, just not yet.

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Re: I LOVE SL. Sorry (but not ashamed).
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2008, 02:59:42 PM »
Lol GT, its very very popular so no need to be ashamed as Freddy said.

Some come, went, never came back yet others still pop in from time to time.

Consider us like a fancy hotel, exclusive for sure, an aquired taste maybe...but our doors are always open to people  past and present who feel like dropping in and saying hello :)



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« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2008, 04:20:37 PM »

Hi Freddy and Mav. Thanks for your quick and kind answers. :)

Afraid I had broken something, lol: after sending my post, the most part of the forum (except the AI Dreams and Robotics sections) suddenly disappeared (with my post, of course). Now sometimes, the whole forum reappears (like now), then disappears again. Very strange. Edit: the problem exists when I'm logged out only.


It was not a goodbye. Always keeping an eye to stuffs from friends and ready to comment. And you're right, after my SL adventures, sure I'll come back in the Haptek world, one day or another. You know what? Sometimes I still play with Oddcast characters! I discovered them some years ago, before Haptek, and I always thought it's enough for a chatbot. Haptek allows sophisticated uses, but for moving mouth and eyes only, Oddcast is perfect and can be very realistic, even in 2D.

About SL, the technical part is interesting but I agree, the human one is the best. A way to experiment all kinds of phantasms, to virtually realize them. So after spending some months/years in SL, I guess people can't find something stronger (it's a drug, isn't it?) and, disappointed, go back to the old references (Haptek, Zabaware, Pandorabots, just speaking of what I know, lol). Not yet reached that point. :)

« Last Edit: December 02, 2008, 04:37:21 PM by GT40 »
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Re: I LOVE SL. Sorry (but not ashamed).
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2008, 02:05:32 PM »
May your enjoyment continue and I'm glad you won't be leaving us.  :)

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« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2008, 10:51:03 AM »

Thanks a lot Freddy.

Yeah! Now nothing to bring to the forum but still many things to learn from it. 8)

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« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2008, 11:15:54 AM »

Thanks a lot Freddy.

Yeah! Now nothing to bring to the forum but still many things to learn from it. 8)



Don't know about that GT, now your into SL you can contribute here about your findings, PC settings etc etc. Sure many Sl users pass by us that might find this section interesting :)

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« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2008, 12:12:54 PM »

Yes Mav. I promise to try to be useful.  :)

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« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2008, 01:30:23 PM »
Ha, theres a lot more AI in SL then you'd think ;)

Many companies make use of 'greeters' simple chat bots that record data about users...one or two use automated systems to detect potentionall harmful chat and throw them out.

There are also the SL-Transhumanists and the Cosmic Engineers, both of which focus on getting AI spread throughout the planet.

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« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2008, 05:57:04 PM »

I agree, Dante: Linden Lab is a Big Brother. ::)


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« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2009, 02:26:12 PM »
Just be careful GT40 as a lot of folks have become addicted to the point that they have lost their jobs, spouse, home and practically everything in the 'real world'.

Keep things in balance whenever possible. ;)
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« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2009, 04:32:50 PM »

Thanks, Art. I understand what you mean and am sorry if some people (of the forum or not) might have had that painful experience.

I don't try to escape real life with SL. Because I can say, despite little troubles as everybody, I'm "happy" (I know I look stupid) in RL, with my family, and need nothing else. But a little bit more money is always welcome. ;D

That's why I have erected a wall between those two worlds. The time I spend in SL is a great source of pleasure, but logging off has never been a problem. Because I LOVE real life.

I'm always amazed and smiling when I meet people in SL, who are doing exactly the same things they're supposed to do in RL. Playing like little children. But of course SL is made for that. Because it's a GAME.

And I'm really disappointed when many other ones use SL like MSN, with cams, voices, photos and (true or not) personal infos in their profiles. All that is REAL life, and yes, all that is the best way to destroy it.

In my case, the "person" I am in SL is totally different from me and can't get over the wall, can't exist on the other side. No possible mistake, no mental confusion or schizophrenia. When the movie ends, I'm ME again.

And I love that. Too. :)

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« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2009, 10:54:55 PM »
Very cool, GT40! It seems you do have a good handle on it and I'm proud of you for that!

All too often we read, see and hear horror stories of meeting someone else and falling in love
with someone in a SL situation chat room, etc., and forsakeing their family and spouses.

Some people have a problem seperating the real world from the fantasy ones. A real shame.

Life's too precious to throw away on some digital image.

There's no need to apologize for enjoying some diversion, heck I enjoy certain types of video games!
Of course, I have hesitated to turn it off except when called for dinner. Yea...she's a great cook! ;)

All the best to you!
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« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2009, 12:48:14 PM »

Thanks again, Art. You're right: virtual cooking can't struggle against our spouses. :)

And yes, it's important to always keep in mind that SL is a wonderful role game. Only a game.

I recently met on SL a woman (but never sure, lol) living in England, who wanted to spend a weekend with me (as you know, I'm in France, but not so far away). I told her it was not a good idea... ;D

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« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2009, 04:22:16 PM »
Me and Freddy are in the UK... ;D

 


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