design neural network for learning numbers

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design neural network for learning numbers
« on: February 06, 2013, 07:59:49 pm »
How do I design in words ( step by step)  neural network that learns number [0-9]? Could someone explain?

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Re: design neural network for learning numbers
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2013, 07:21:50 am »
Learns what about numbers? Recognize written numbers on paper or something else?

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Re: design neural network for learning numbers
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2013, 11:39:02 am »
Learns numbers from a tab6x6 ( tab contains  0 and 1. 0 is an empty field,  1s make up a number). What would look the process of designin such a network (step by step including calculating neuron, layers etc)? Thanks in advanced.

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Re: design neural network for learning numbers
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2013, 01:30:45 pm »
I'm a little confused by the 6*6 grid. Do you mean something like this, which would be the nr 3:
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1111
0001
1111
0001
1111
I'd build a decision tree, like so: http://bragisoft.com/2013/02/creating-and-using-decision-trees/

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Re: design neural network for learning numbers
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2013, 02:26:46 pm »
Yeah, that what I mean, But the grid is 6X6 not 4x5. The problem is that I am really new in this and I am not familiar enough with decision tree to give it a try. So lets focus on the grid. To be honest that was an exam question to desing a NN that recognizes numbers.  If you could help me, how would you answer the question ( how would you desing the network)?

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Re: design neural network for learning numbers
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2013, 04:34:38 pm »
Well, how far did you get?

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Re: design neural network for learning numbers
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2013, 04:44:50 pm »
Well for me its obv that this network should have 36 inputs , 10 outputs ( numbers from 0 to 9)  and 2 hidden layers ( guessing). And it could use Sigmoid funcion for calculating the neurons output. Trained with back propagation rules. Thats all i can write;

How do i know kow many neurons should I have in every layer?
What can i write more?

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Re: design neural network for learning numbers
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2013, 05:54:26 pm »
Ahh, that's the tricky bit. Trial and error, training functions,..

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Re: design neural network for learning numbers
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2013, 08:03:21 pm »
could you answer in more detail?

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Re: design neural network for learning numbers
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2014, 04:19:28 am »
You should be able to learn bit patterns using SimpleRBM which is where I started learning about Boltzmann Machines and then wrote in enough technical detail here http://aidreams.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=5990.0 ("Ben F Rayfield - My bizarre research toward networking minds together") how you can build one from scratch, train, and use it in realtime.

 


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