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Hello...
« on: December 14, 2008, 11:44:25 am »
Hi,
I'm the founder of another AI forum and I casually came here through a link on ai-forum.org.
I'm mainly a C++ programmer and I'm currently working on developing a chatbot from scratch in C++ (it will be a standalone application, not a web-based one), that will hopefully compete for the Loebner Prize :D (if I manage to get it done and working by April)....
Nothing else to say now, if you have any questions feel free to ask :)
Good bye

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« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2008, 12:11:23 pm »
Welcome to the forum StelK,

Hope you enjoy your stay here and please keep us updated on your project. You can use this board here if you want:

http://aidreams.co.uk/forum/index.php?board=35.0

Any queries or anything we may be able to help with just let us know :)

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« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2008, 02:37:53 pm »
Welcome aboard, Stelk!

Nice to see some new blood having a go in the bot world. I much prefer standalone
bots to web based ones. I feel there's more freedom for experimentation as well as
a measure of privacy with the standalone ones.

Would you mind sharing your AI website with us?

Will your bot be primarily for the Loebner competition or will it have other features
that might appeal to the masses ( of bot enthusiasts at least)?

Cheers!
In the world of AI, it's the thought that counts!

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« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2008, 01:31:51 pm »
Hi again,
my AI forum has opened some weeks ago and its URL is http://www.aitalk.net. I had noticed that there was a lack of forums about this topic, and I wanted to create one. I've found out AI Dreams only few days ago :)

As for the bot, I has always been interested in AI, and I have made some other simple bots. The idea for this one, came from the Loebner prize so it will be focused on it. Anyway I'm plannig to implement some nice features (learning, of course; memory; ability to recognize comparisons between terms (ie: "is a train faster than a horse?"); etc...). What other features were you referring to?
I'm always open to new ideas so I might take them into consideration, let me know.

See you ;)

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« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2008, 02:13:44 pm »
Hi again,

If you want a link placing here to your site on our links page let me know and I'll get one up for you :)

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« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2008, 02:32:42 pm »
...yeah, that was me. Sorry :p

Just wanted the AI forum you mentioned to have a lot less uneducated people :P

Welcome to the family :)

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StelK

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« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2008, 05:01:01 pm »
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Hi again,

If you want a link placing here to your site on our links page let me know and I'll get one up for you

Yeah sure, that would be nice. I will put a link in exchange in a sticky thread on my forum, if you want :)

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...yeah, that was me. Sorry :p

Just wanted the AI forum you mentioned to have a lot less uneducated people

Welcome to the family

Ehmmm... I didn't get it (I'm not english, btw) ;D

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« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2008, 05:24:24 pm »
Will get that done for you, were about to move hosts soon so will get it added soon as we are sorted out here :)

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« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2008, 03:31:59 pm »
OK...I'll just toss out a few items that may be of interest for inclusion in your bot:

The ability to learn new information instead of being a purely scripted bot.
To check and retrieve email.
To announce weather conditions / if asked.
To initiate conversation if bored.
To know how much time has passed since last conversation.
The ability to run Windows programs if asked.
The ability to choose or make decisions between two or more objects / items.
Age / gender settings would be nice.
Will the mind / brain files be editable?
Can corrections (due to typing or speaking) be made as / when they occur?
Will it support voice recognition?
Will it support speech synthesis?
Any thoughts for future web cam usage (like facial recognition)?
Any support for avatars like MS Agent, Haptek, Poser or is it text based only?

I have more but this should keep you entertained for a while.

I'm just trying to get a feel for what you hope to create in the way of a bot.

Sadly, a lot of past Loebner bots were simply scripted bots with very clever answers
instead of any practical 'awareness'.

The best of luck to you regardless!
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« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2008, 11:00:50 pm »
Nice list, now I'll try to answer you:
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The ability to learn new information instead of being a purely scripted bot.
Sure!

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To check and retrieve email.
The ability to run Windows programs if asked.
I don't think I'll implement these right now, at least not in the version I'll submit for the Loebner Prize (always IF I will submit it).
I could think about them later.

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To announce weather conditions / if asked.
Don't know...

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To initiate conversation if bored.
This is one of the things that makes bots immediately recognizable! I've never seen a bot who write two lines in a row or who writes without any input... I was thinking about implementing it in some way but I still have to think HOW to do it.

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To know how much time has passed since last conversation.
Maybe.

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The ability to choose or make decisions between two or more objects / items.
Age / gender settings would be nice.
I'll probably implement both of them. I'm, in fact, creating a fake personality for the bot so he will be pretending to be a human at the Loebner Prize :)

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Will the mind / brain files be editable?
They will be text files, so they will be editable. But, unfortunately, I don't think they will be EASILY editable by anyone at least if I leave them the way they are structured now.

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Can corrections (due to typing or speaking) be made as / when they occur?
Don't know...

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Will it support voice recognition?
Will it support speech synthesis?
Any thoughts for future web cam usage (like facial recognition)?
Any support for avatars like MS Agent, Haptek, Poser or is it text based only?
No... I'm not very pratical with these things. It will probably be a text-only bot.
However, I'll probably release the code under the GNU GPL license, so it will be available to everyone to modify or expand....

Thanks for the list, anyway, you pointed out some nice things ;)
Unfortunately, I've not made any progress in this period, due to university but I hope to continue the work in the next week... we will see...

bye bye

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« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2008, 04:33:14 pm »
Stelk,

To initiate conversation if bored has been done in the past by Zabaware's UltraHal (version 5 not 6).

It used a timer within the program that kept track of minutes past. Once this condition was met,
a subroutine selected a random prescripted phrase (one of at least 10 or more phrases) and said
it aloud to the used. This would happen after say 2 minutes of no conversation, providing the program
had already started and there was at least some initial conversation.

Minute timers can be helpful to keep track of time since last conversation, last command, the above
feature which we call "auto-idle" and current conditions.

Just some thoughts.
Good luck with your project and Merry Christmas!
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« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2009, 12:28:24 am »
Stelk,

You need to set up a better method of registration for your forum.
It has been spammed BADLY and is now not only full of porn adverts
but pictures as well!

You guys...cover your eyes!!
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« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2009, 08:57:37 am »
Sometimes, "Sex is violent"... Jane's addiction.
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« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2009, 01:16:04 pm »
Had almost forgotten about Jane's Addiction...used to listen to them a lot..

But yes as Art says, Stelk please tidy up your site or we will be forced to remove your link as we don't wish to send minors in the direction of pornography if we can help it.  I'm also reviewing Ai Dealer's forum for the same reason - they have an even worse case than you.

 


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